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post #5446 of 6488
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

elvergun,

I do have my doubts that the HP50 are truly a full-sized equivalent of the "Mighty" Mikro 90, but I'll humor you for the time being.

Kindly enumerate the "here and there" of the HP50.

The Inner Fidelity review found the HP50 wanting in the upper treble and tipped up in the upper mids.

:rolleyes: 

 

 

The highs are more extended on the Mikros-- they are a little clearer and crispier.  I would say that if the treble was a little more rolled off on the HP50s then I would consider them to be a bad model with crappy highs.  The highs are just on the borderline of what I find acceptable and enjoyable.

 

The quality of the lows is about the same on both models, yet the Mikros' bass extends just a little bit lower.   The HP50 might have more mid bass.  The mids are slightly (very slightly) more forward on the Mikros. 

 

Soundstage, imaging and instrument separation is where I find the HP50 to be better than the Mikros...not by much though. 

 

 

Isolation is about the same on both, but I find the Mikros to be more comfortable on my head.   The MLs are more portable since they are smaller.  I feel that the HP50s are a full-sized can made to look like a portable.  It is a tad too big, but it does not offer the comfort of a full-size can.   

 

The 90s are not perfect either, so in the end I think both NAD and Martin Logan did an excellent job considering it is their first attempt to create a quality headphone.

 

Highs:

Mikros >> HP50

 

Mids:

Mikros = HP50

 

Lows:

Mikros > HP50

 

Imaging:

HP50 >> Mikros

 

Instrument Separation:

HP50 > Mikros

 

Soundstage:

HP50 > Mikros

 

Comfort:

Mikros >>> HP50  (and I never thought the Mikros was the most comfortable of headphones...YMMV)

 

Isolation

Mikros = HP50

 

Looks (on the head):

Mikros >>> HP50 (and I never thought the Mikros was a good looking model)

 

Build Quality, accessories, materials used:

Mikros = HP50

 

Value (retail price):

Mikros = HP50

 

Value (current prices):

Mikros >>>>> HP50

 

 

 

These are my initial impressions...I don't have the Mikros at hand to compare them head-to-head...and YMMV. :wink:

post #5447 of 6488
Good stuff elvergun! Thanks.
post #5448 of 6488

Yes, Thank You, elvergun!

Sometimes I interpret "instrument separation" as thinness or lack of body/interactive synergy.  

The ATHs I just auditioned gave me that impression: the instruments sound more separated, but more respectively isolated from one another as well.  Ditto for the DT990.

 

On an aside: Has anyone heard the T90?

Are they just another "Tesla" iteration of the DT990?

Am selling the ATH-W1000X: over-emphasized--bordering on boomy--midbass, a tendency to hardness in the upper mids, a more analytic than synergistic rendering of instruments in space.  I think I've heard enough.

Might try the HP50, but am not expecting anything duly impressive compared to the Mikros 90.


Edited by pataburd - 6/1/14 at 5:25am
post #5449 of 6488
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Yes, Thank You, elvergun!

Sometimes I interpret "instrument separation" as thinness or lack of body/interactive synergy.  

The ATHs I just auditioned gave me that impression: the instruments sound more separated, but more respectively isolated from one another as well.  Ditto for the DT990.

 

On an aside: Has anyone heard the T90?

Are they just another "Tesla" iteration of the DT990?

Am selling the ATH-W1000X: over-emphasized--bordering on boomy--midbass, a tendency to hardness in the upper mids, a more analytic than synergistic rendering of instruments in space.  I think I've heard enough.

Might try the HP50, but am not expecting anything duly impressive compared to the Mikros 90.

 

I owned the T90 for a couple of weeks.  They are some of the brightest and most unnatural sounding (because of the highs) headphones I have ever tried.  

post #5450 of 6488
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

I owned the T90 for a couple of weeks.  They are some of the brightest and most unnatural sounding (because of the highs) headphones I have ever tried.  

They are excellent headphones but need a dark/warm amp to shine, trust

I did prefer the HE-500 by quite a large margin

post #5451 of 6488
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

They are excellent headphones but need a dark/warm amp to shine, trust

I did prefer the HE-500 by quite a large margin

 

You could get a dark amp to fix some of the T90s problems...or you could get the T1 and fix ALL of the T90s problems.  :tongue:

post #5452 of 6488
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

You could get a dark amp to fix some of the T90s problems...or you could get the T1 and fix ALL of the T90s problems.  :tongue:

Yeah at twice the price :(

...Or you could go for broke and get the HD800

post #5453 of 6488
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

Yeah at twice the price :(

...Or you could go for broke and get the HD800

 

Haha.  That's what I did!!!

 

I went from the T90 to T1...then from the T1 to HD800.

 

The Beyerdynamic and the Sennheiser are not that far apart though.  If a crazy thief broke into my house and replaced my HD800 with a T1, I would not be that upset about the ordeal.      Basically, I don't think there is a need to go for broke if you already own a T1. 

post #5454 of 6488
Finally listening to my MA900 after a few months on Mikros island. The MA900's soundstage is beyond seductive, howver, I cant help but hear a lack in treble detail and midrange smoothness. They sound great but it amazes me to see how well the Mikros competes with open cans. This is with the fiio x3 with firmware 3.0.
post #5455 of 6488
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Given the workmanship and materials, Ted's [Headphone Lounge] UPOCC cable is a jolly good buy AFAIAC, and a worthy complement for the Mikros 90.

 

I am listening to The Baltimore Consort, Watkins Ale: Music of the English Renaissance, [a Dorian Recording] with the humble Denon 1940CI through the headphone out from the Linn Intek with Ted's UPOCC litz cable and the Mikros 90 [bhazard/Stock Pair #1] sound just Grand!

 

:smile_phones:

 

http://headphonelounge.com/

 

Thanks for the link. I need to get some new music. I will put Music of the English Renaissance on my list of albums to check out. Thanks. :)

post #5456 of 6488
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

I owned the T90 for a couple of weeks.  They are some of the brightest and most unnatural sounding (because of the highs) headphones I have ever tried.  

Your assessment of the T90's treble is similar to my impressions of the DT990's unnaturally emphasized treble.

May be picking up a pair of the Oppo PM-1 for a spin.

post #5457 of 6488
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

Finally listening to my MA900 after a few months on Mikros island. The MA900's soundstage is beyond seductive, howver, I cant help but hear a lack in treble detail and midrange smoothness. They sound great but it amazes me to see how well the Mikros competes with open cans. This is with the fiio x3 with firmware 3.0.

+1.

The Mikros 90 have--to my ears--bettered all the competing cans I have had for the last seven months [HE-6, M500, HFI-780, DT990, A1000X, W1000X].  Perhaps not in every single department--read: relative size of soundstage; but in virtually every other respect, the MLs rise to the top--and often quite handily.

Like I said, I do not miss the HE-6 in the least.  : )

The Oppo PM-1 may be in-house shortly.  The PM-1 reviews I have read so far lead me to believe, however, that the Oppos might sound comparatively rolled off in the treble and the bass compared with the MLs.

But, better try to keep an open mind and an open ear!

Right now I am running the Mikros 90 [bhazard Stock Pair #1] at my office with the Headphone Lounge UPOCC copper cable, and I have NO COMPLAINTS WHATSOEVER with their amazingly STELLAR performance.


Edited by pataburd - 6/3/14 at 11:27am
post #5458 of 6488
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

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The highs are more extended on the Mikros-- they are a little clearer and crispier.  I would say that if the treble was a little more rolled off on the HP50s then I would consider them to be a bad model with crappy highs.  The highs are just on the borderline of what I find acceptable and enjoyable.

 

The quality of the lows is about the same on both models, yet the Mikros' bass extends just a little bit lower.   The HP50 might have more mid bass.  The mids are slightly (very slightly) more forward on the Mikros. 

 

Soundstage, imaging and instrument separation is where I find the HP50 to be better than the Mikros...not by much though. 

 

 

Isolation is about the same on both, but I find the Mikros to be more comfortable on my head.   The MLs are more portable since they are smaller.  I feel that the HP50s are a full-sized can made to look like a portable.  It is a tad too big, but it does not offer the comfort of a full-size can.   

 

The 90s are not perfect either, so in the end I think both NAD and Martin Logan did an excellent job considering it is their first attempt to create a quality headphone.

 

Highs:

Mikros >> HP50

 

Mids:

Mikros = HP50

 

Lows:

Mikros > HP50

 

Imaging:

HP50 >> Mikros

 

Instrument Separation:

HP50 > Mikros

 

Soundstage:

HP50 > Mikros

 

Comfort:

Mikros >>> HP50  (and I never thought the Mikros was the most comfortable of headphones...YMMV)

 

Isolation

Mikros = HP50

 

Looks (on the head):

Mikros >>> HP50 (and I never thought the Mikros was a good looking model)

 

Build Quality, accessories, materials used:

Mikros = HP50

 

Value (retail price):

Mikros = HP50

 

Value (current prices):

Mikros >>>>> HP50

 

 

 

These are my initial impressions...I don't have the Mikros at hand to compare them head-to-head...and YMMV. :wink:

Are these impressions with the modded or stock Mikros 90?

post #5459 of 6488
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Are these impressions with the modded or stock Mikros 90?

Assuming STOCK, since I think elvergun has successfully avoided modding his Mikros 90.

I am running bhazard's stock pair and I frequently reach for them in lieu of either of my modded pairs.

post #5460 of 6488
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Assuming STOCK, since I think elvergun has successfully avoided modding his Mikros 90.

I am running bhazard's stock pair and I frequently reach for them in lieu of either of my modded pairs.

Ah thanks. That's good to know

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