Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Martin Logan Mikros 90 On-Ear Headphones
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Martin Logan Mikros 90 On-Ear Headphones - Page 358

post #5356 of 6492

http://www.head-fi.org/t/655333/k271s-with-dog-pads-match-made-in-heaven

interesting thread on the 271s with dogpads from Mr Speaker's.

If u are cool with the look of AKGs on your head on the streets then great :P

I had the 271Mk2 b4, it has a cooler soundsignature...

ok with a sansa, but with a more energetic dap like a StudioV,

the Mk2 sounded more spectacular, havent heard the 271S though.

 

The fit of the Mikros is a love-hate affair, it's a gamble..

if it hits it off with your head, then u are in for a treat.

The sound texture of the Mikros is DENSER/FINER than a 271.. ( off my distant memory :P)

The sense of DEPTH of the Mikros is more noticeable,

on the 271 it didnt struck me as that obvious then. 

 

I did enjoyed the 271mk2. it is very light on the head...

if u have a BIG HEAD, it can be a little tight...BIG head.

I cant see myself walking down the streets with those steel wires over my head.:P


Edited by Lorspeaker - 5/24/14 at 8:30am
post #5357 of 6492

So I'm sitting with a pair of Mikros 90s, having listened to them for the past hour or so, and... I do not get the hype. I mean they're fine headphones, just not especially interesting. The lows are definitely lacking, the mids and highs sound good, that's about it. I'd say they're an $80 headphone. The current price is exactly what they're worth. If I spent full price on these things I would have returned them immediately. 

 

They're definitely burned in, by the way. They're a pair I bought for my sister over a month ago that she's been using daily. 

post #5358 of 6492

u are coming from a Hope VI...and M100...?  I have a HOPE6 incoming next week :)

Bass quality on the VI will kill off the Mikros ...but of cos. ..from my fleeting audition .

 

I prefer the Mikros bass quality to that of the M100...

And there is that HOLE n cup to be tripledecked on the Mikros...if anyone is bored enuf 

to want to extract some subbasss. 

post #5359 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/655333/k271s-with-dog-pads-match-made-in-heaven

interesting thread on the 271s with dogpads from Mr Speaker's.

If u are cool with the look of AKGs on your head on the streets then great :P

I had the 271Mk2 b4, it has a cooler soundsignature...

ok with a sansa, but with a more energetic dap like a StudioV,

the Mk2 sounded more spectacular, havent heard the 271S though.

 

The fit of the Mikros is a love-hate affair, it's a gamble..

if it hits it off with your head, then u are in for a treat.

The sound texture of the Mikros is DENSER/FINER than a 271.. ( off my distant memory :P)

The sense of DEPTH of the Mikros is more noticeable,

on the 271 it didnt struck me as that obvious then. 

 

I did enjoyed the 271mk2. it is very light on the head...

if u have a BIG HEAD, it can be a little tight...BIG head.

I cant see myself walking down the streets with those steel wires over my head.:P

 

I've walked down streets and subways with my HE-400's lol, I really don't care if some strangers on the street judge me because I am wearing some headphones :)

 

HE-400's need to be driven and are really heavy though, I cant keep using them outside. Not to mention they are open. K271's seem like the ones I will be going for right now after all the reading I have done. Should be able to hear them before I buy them so thats a huge plus too.

 

Thanks for the advice :) Appreciate it.

post #5360 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

u are coming from a Hope VI...and M100...?  I have a HOPE6 incoming next week :)

Bass quality on the VI will kill off the Mikros ...but of cos. ..from my fleeting audition .

 

I prefer the Mikros bass quality to that of the M100...

And there is that HOLE n cup to be tripledecked on the Mikros...if anyone is bored enuf 

to want to extract some subbasss. 

 

The PH6 and the M100 are what I own currently. I've tried a whole boatload of headphones, though. The Mikros does not have greater bass "quality" to the M100. Period. It just has less bass. If you prefer that sound, then you may well prefer that sound signature, but there's no increased "quality" in the bass tones themselves.

 

Not to sidetrack, but the whole "bass quality" thing is almost like a knee-jerk defense. It always goes like this:

 

"I'm not a fan of Headphone X."

 

"Why not?"

 

"Eh, it doesn't have enough bass."

 

"But it has QUALITY bass!"

 

Also, I'm absolutely not comparing the Mikros 90 to the PH6, that would be absurd. The PH6 are $800 dual-driver over-ear flagships, the Mikros are $80 on-ears. I'm just saying that there's nothing particularly special happening here. They're good. I wouldn't say there's anything offensive about the sound. I just cannot for the life of me understand the cultish fervor surrounding them.

 

To put it plainly, if someone doesn't want to go over $100 on headphones and doesn't listen to much rap or electronic music, I would suggest these (and in fact have, to great response), but that's it. They're nice sub-$100 headphones. Nothing more, nothing less. 

post #5361 of 6492

If u finally decide against 271...

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
do check out the Yamaha MT220.. budget is around 200 ...superb balanced live sound. 
post #5362 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

The PH6 and the M100 are what I own currently. I've tried a whole boatload of headphones, though. The Mikros does not have greater bass "quality" to the M100. Period. It just has less bass. If you prefer that sound, then you may well prefer that sound signature, but there's no increased "quality" in the bass tones themselves.

 

Not to sidetrack, but the whole "bass quality" thing is almost like a knee-jerk defense. It always goes like this:

 

"I'm not a fan of Headphone X."

 

"Why not?"

 

"Eh, it doesn't have enough bass."

 

"But it has QUALITY bass!"

 

Also, I'm absolutely not comparing the Mikros 90 to the PH6, that would be absurd. The PH6 are $800 dual-driver over-ear flagships, the Mikros are $80 on-ears. I'm just saying that there's nothing particularly special happening here. They're good. I wouldn't say there's anything offensive about the sound. I just cannot for the life of me understand the cultish fervor surrounding them.

 

To put it plainly, if someone doesn't want to go over $100 on headphones and doesn't listen to much rap or electronic music, I would suggest these (and in fact have, to great response), but that's it. They're nice sub-$100 headphones. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 

I disagree with this statement.

 

I'll give a pretty good example.

 

I owned (And returned) The Ultrasone Pro 900's and I own (And love) the HE-400's. The Pro 900's have more bass and are considered one of the bests in that section. The HE-400's have "enough" for most people.

 

As a person who listens to Hip-Hop and needs good bass, I will take the HE-400's bass 10 times out of 10. There is something about the quality over quantity the HE-400 has that the Pro 900's cant get close to. The Pro 900's overall aren't worth $400 imo, but even the bass alone is just a lot of it, its nothing special. Bass quality is something that exists, though I wouldnt know how to describe it.

 

---------

 

Sorry for the off topic post.

post #5363 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bboy500 View Post
 

 

I disagree with this statement.

 

I'll give a pretty good example.

 

I owned (And returned) The Ultrasone Pro 900's and I own (And love) the HE-400's. The Pro 900's have more bass and are considered one of the bests in that section. The HE-400's have "enough" for most people.

 

As a person who listens to Hip-Hop and needs good bass, I will take the HE-400's bass 10 times out of 10. There is something about the quality over quantity the HE-400 has that the Pro 900's cant get close to. The Pro 900's overall aren't worth $400 imo, but even the bass alone is just a lot of it, its nothing special. Bass quality is something that exists, though I wouldnt know how to describe it.

 

---------

 

Sorry for the off topic post.

 

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying it always crops up as a defense when someone says a given headphone has less bass than another one. The IMMEDIATE response is "but it has BETTER bass". I've never heard anyone admit that a bass-heavy headphone exists that also has high quality bass. It's ALWAYS when someone is defending a "bass-light" product. 

 

To put it ON topic, the Mikros 90's bass is not anything special. It's good, but it's not fantastic. The M100 has better bass, as well as more of it. It's punchier, more powerful, smoother. The Mikros has what I would call "adequate" bass. It's there, it hits enough frequencies, doesn't drop off and doesn't sound artificial, but that's it. For someone who feels the M100 are too bassy, sure. That's a different argument.

 

I'm still trying them out, thinking maybe if I adjust to the sound, but I'm just not feeling it. 

post #5364 of 6492
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

pro900 was my favorite closed can ...until it died....had owned two of them...lolz.

And i used it for CLASSICAL music..on my home setup only..on highgain, with tubeamps.

The bass is clear, controlled, tight slamming.. the highs are non sibilant...quite diff from the general complaints about this can. :P

 

This brings up the point of synergy. how each can match with some gears to bring out it's best for a particular person (taste).

some wont be impressed by a particular can on their setup, and another would swear by it, or hype about it. 

All fine by me...i am just here to share what i heard. And there is enuf people here who LOVE the sound of this Mikros.

My mikros happens to like my ipad, so i am luckybeaver at macdonalds.:P

post #5365 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

So I'm sitting with a pair of Mikros 90s, having listened to them for the past hour or so, and... I do not get the hype. I mean they're fine headphones, just not especially interesting. The lows are definitely lacking, the mids and highs sound good, that's about it. I'd say they're an $80 headphone. The current price is exactly what they're worth. If I spent full price on these things I would have returned them immediately. 

 

They're definitely burned in, by the way. They're a pair I bought for my sister over a month ago that she's been using daily. 

 

This is of course your personal truth and you are more than entitled to your own opinion. However, who's to say that this is the only one? 

Personally, I would suggest these to anyone who's looking for a clear, accurate, rich and very transparent headphones up to the range of $200-$250. 

Since there is no arguing about the mids and highs I would rather suggest to consider the bass in the Mikros 90 as an existing entity. They're not bass-centric headphones, but with a neutral and balanced presence, quite satisfying for my liking. Not as punchy or powerful, but  very responsive.

post #5366 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by niron View Post
 

 

This is of course your personal truth and you are more than entitled to your own opinion. However, who's to say that this is the only one? 

Personally, I would suggest these to anyone who's looking for a clear, accurate, rich and very transparent headphones up to the range of $200-$250. 

Since there is no arguing about the mids and highs I would rather suggest to consider the bass in the Mikros 90 as an existing entity. They're not bass-centric headphones, but with a neutral and balanced presence, quite satisfying for my liking. Not as punchy or powerful, but  very responsive.

 

Oh everything's opinion, come on. That's the whole point of the forum. We express opinions here and share them. There is no such thing as "the only opinion", so get off yer dang soapbox. :rolleyes:

 

I was just really underwhelmed given how much praise these get. What's more surprising than anything is the person I bought them for seems to be preferring my old Monster NTunes that I gave her. And keep in mind, this is a person who does NOT listen to hip hop or pop music. She's a high school band girl who does choir and musical theatre, so her playlists are all live instrumentation stuff from groups I've never heard of (Dresden Dolls is one I know). I was really shocked to find the Mikros sitting on a chair and her chilling out with the Monsters. 

 

I'm not here to rain on parades or even tell anyone they're wrong. After all, everything in sound is subjective and what's most important is enjoying your music, not having someone else "convinced" of your choice's superiority. I just wanted to pop in and relate my findings given the INSANE amount of praise and hype these things get. I was expecting to hear sound up in the $200-300 range, but found that they are well deserving of their current price tag. Pleasant, inoffensive, but leaving me wondering why on earth people seem to be stockpiling them. 

post #5367 of 6492

Well, different opinions are more than welcome. As a matter of fact, they are our main energy source and are essential for the ongoing "debate."

 

One thing you haven't mentioned though is your audio sources. 

post #5368 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

 

I'm not here to rain on parades or even tell anyone they're wrong. After all, everything in sound is subjective and what's most important is enjoying your music, not having someone else "convinced" of your choice's superiority. I just wanted to pop in and relate my findings given the INSANE amount of praise and hype these things get. I was expecting to hear sound up in the $200-300 range, but found that they are well deserving of their current price tag. Pleasant, inoffensive, but leaving me wondering why on earth people seem to be stockpiling them. 

 

I'm not surprised at the fact that you did not like them (given your tastes).   What, did you think this was the one headphone that would please everyone?    The sound does go up in the $300 range...if you like that type of sound.    You could give me the most incredible basshead headphone ever made and I would probably think that it sucked.

 

But, hey, at least you gave it a shot. 


Edited by elvergun - 5/24/14 at 12:00pm
post #5369 of 6492
Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

Oh everything's opinion, come on. That's the whole point of the forum. We express opinions here and share them. There is no such thing as "the only opinion", so get off yer dang soapbox. :rolleyes:

 

I was just really underwhelmed given how much praise these get. What's more surprising than anything is the person I bought them for seems to be preferring my old Monster NTunes that I gave her. And keep in mind, this is a person who does NOT listen to hip hop or pop music. She's a high school band girl who does choir and musical theatre, so her playlists are all live instrumentation stuff from groups I've never heard of (Dresden Dolls is one I know). I was really shocked to find the Mikros sitting on a chair and her chilling out with the Monsters. 

 

I'm not here to rain on parades or even tell anyone they're wrong. After all, everything in sound is subjective and what's most important is enjoying your music, not having someone else "convinced" of your choice's superiority. I just wanted to pop in and relate my findings given the INSANE amount of praise and hype these things get. I was expecting to hear sound up in the $200-300 range, but found that they are well deserving of their current price tag. Pleasant, inoffensive, but leaving me wondering why on earth people seem to be stockpiling them.

Glad to hear that you are vicariously enjoying your Monster NTunes!

[It sure is nice to know that yours is not "the only opinion" around here, either.]

 

:smile_phones: 


Edited by pataburd - 5/24/14 at 1:15pm
post #5370 of 6492
The other thing being that these seem to sound better after a while. I was underwhelmed initially, too. A lot of people don't buy into the break-in factor, though. Their loss as I'm convinced these just sound better and feel better the more I use them.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Martin Logan Mikros 90 On-Ear Headphones