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post #496 of 5892
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

Rubbish

 

 

So you could not listen to solo violin, flute, woodwinds, harp etc?

Eh, I think sub-bass is pretty important.  While you may not get it in the cases you mentioned, it's also not needed/expected.  However, when you hit a song that's supposed to have some low impact and it's not there, then you have a problem.  It'll definitely sound tinny/hollow.  In the case of these headphones, I'm a little puzzled - on some songs, it seems like they've got oodles of bass impact, but other songs you definitely get that hollow/tinny sound.  I've been fiddling with EQ settings to see if I can find something that fixes that, but my gut is telling me that these may have to go back.

 

I definitely love them for certain types of music - they're phenomenal on female vocals, for example - but to my ears, they push guitars too strongly.  They remind me a bit of Grados in that respect, and I really don't like the Grado sound.  The treble is also insanely bright.  Earlier, I said it wasn't terrible, but in some cases, it really is.  Screechy guitars and cymbals seem to set it off in a particularly ear-stabbing fashion.  Bringing it down in a EQ tames it a bit, but I feel that if I'm having to resort to EQ past very minor tweaks, I should probably be looking at a different headphone.

post #497 of 5892

What you describe sounds like it might be recording-dependent.  Otherwise, how can the same set of headphones sound both "tinny" and "bassy"?  If it were the headphones, they would impart either a tinny or bassy color to everything you played through them.  To me the Mikros 90 are true to source: what comes out of them is a direct function of what goes into them.


Edited by pataburd - 1/24/14 at 9:42pm
post #498 of 5892
The xba4ip = mikros90😲
post #499 of 5892

Could be recordings, but I've always been under the impression that Moving Pictures was a pretty well-recorded album, and Tom Sawyer was one of the more notable songs that sounded really thin.  This is supported by the fact that it sounded much more full through my GR07s (non-BE), which are a fairly neutral IEM.  To me, it sounds like there's a region of the bass that's missing.  Messing with EQ settings suggests that it's the sub-bass - mid-bass seems to be pretty good - but it's entirely possible that the last several years using more or less nothing but the D2000s has colored my perception of my music.

 

I'm going to give these a few more days before I make a decision - the place I got them from has a 60-day return policy, so I've got some time to mess around with things.

post #500 of 5892

Odd.

Clean, textured sub-bass is one thing that distinguishes the Mikros 90 from just about every other headphones I've owned, including the D7000.

Could be your listening preferences/the way you hear/listen.

The Mikros 90, to me, are superb headphones--I just sold my HE-6 because I thought they fell short of the MLs--but I realize, too, that the MLs may not be for everybody.


Edited by pataburd - 1/24/14 at 9:44pm
post #501 of 5892
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Odd.

Clean, textured sub-bass is what distinguishes the Mikros 90 from just about every other headphones I've owned, including the D7000.

 

 

Does the martin make this sound awesome?

post #502 of 5892
My fiio rc mh1 should be here Tuesday 😎
post #503 of 5892
The subbass is there. A headphone with no subbass is basically any open headphone under $300. The HD598, DT880, MA900, Grado Prestige are all loved, and they have little subbass.

Of course a song without bass wouldn't sound great, but what would a song without mids sound like; or a song without treble? Bass is important obviously, but it is of least importance compared to its competition.
post #504 of 5892

Some thing strange. Every time I use Mikros, for first two or three tracks, it sound dull. After that, every thing fine, very details and open.

 

P.S. Mine already burn for 300+ hours

post #505 of 5892

the earwax needs to be agitated n melted b4 the fun begins :basshead:

post #506 of 5892

My fat fingers gently pinching and pulling out.

 

 

 

Ear-pad removal and modification

 

Ear pad removal is pretty easy, all you do is gently pinch the leather and pull it out of the small grove along the speakers case edge.

 

 

The picture above you can see how the memory foam angles in a bit, I took a pair of small scissors and trimmed a small bit off, I could have done a bit more, but best to do these things in stages.

 

 

 

 

The back side of the memory foam has a thin material, possibly nylon glued to it.

 

 

Here is the small piece I cut off.

 

 

 

Modified memory foam back in leather cover.

 

 

To replace the ear pad it it a bit fussy / fiddly operation, you need to tuck the small leather edge into the grove around the edge of the cup, It reminded me of putting a bike tire on, only a lot less messy.


Edited by PredatorZ - 1/25/14 at 7:47am
post #507 of 5892
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

Rubbish

 

 

 

Really?  You can live with a headphone with no sub-bass?  Not me.  Which models - with no sub bass - do you like?

post #508 of 5892
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

the earwax needs to be agitated n melted b4 the fun begins :basshead:

 

Some truth to that I'm sure, even though its a bit gross to picture :atsmile:

post #509 of 5892
I never thought I could like these so much after my first impressions. I still deny burn in, but my ears have done quite a bit of adjusting. I can not take these things off!
post #510 of 5892
I've turned EQ off.
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