Ok, lurked, jumped on the ML Mikros 90 Newegg Shellshocker $48 (with tax $52). Great right out of the box. It now has about 12 hours burn in and I still love it. Will see how it changes.
I read the threads and used the recommended method of placing the front edges on the edge of my outer cheek bone a little in front of my ear so the top of the headband is a little forward. It is fairly comfortable, has the 'suction' on my ear, doesn't slip and the sound is the best that way. Haven't needed to adjust the band other than lower the ear cups a little. They have the best isolation for me. I can't hear anything but the music.
Tried Mikros with the Sansa Clip Zip, Cowon S9, and Iphone 4, iphone5, Ipad air, Ipad mini with and without E11 amp with LOD and/or mini to mini Fiio interconnect. Tried alac, flac, wav, and aac or mp3 anywhere from 128 to 320 kbps. All sounds really good even my old 128 mp3's! $52 well spent.
I was trying to read all the pages for the over the ear pad mods (they are really buried unless there are photos). Is it worth the effort for the comfort vs sq change? Which is the best pad? i saw a lot of recommendations but couldn't really find most of them online as aftermarket pads without buying the headphone (well Alpha pads are there but expensive). I don't mind so much the stock but i do prefer over the ear.