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post #4426 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

Guys what's your view on this,

Can some loud white noise / random noise actually harm the drivers while burn-in process?

 

Just burn in at a little more than normal listening volume. White noise seldom helps, but I do credit it (along with pink noise and cello music) with improving my Mikros.

post #4427 of 6486
I tried another girlfriend, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear today and have to say I prefer it's bass, but will have to try them A/B before I decide. The M90 has more treble extension and detail from what I can tell. The Momentum are more comfortable but at the expense of isolation.

Out of the two HP's I think the Momentum would have more mass appeal sonically, comfort, and looks wise.

I will likely return the Momentum though because they have a proprietary connector on the HP so I can't hook up my android cable. But I want to A/B first.

BTW I got these for $183 at Future Shop after they price matched NCIX who has these on sale right now.
post #4428 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Bananiq View Post
 

Guys what's your view on this,

Can some loud white noise / random noise actually harm the drivers while burn-in process?


Don't think so.  The link in Claritas post is the one I have used...don't believe it will get loud enough to do any harm.  Simple to do on laptop overnight or anytime the Mikros aren't clamped to your noggin.  I listened to both my pairs all during burn in, and lived to tell the tale.  The idea is to get the drivers to move...any signal should work for this purpose.  What I have read seems to indicate that any sound that is comfortable for your ears should be satisfactory for burn in.  If you want to make a career out of burnin' em in, you can probably find numerous threads here that will discuss this one topic until ____ (a) the end of time, (b) the cows come home, (c) the horse is dead, (d) all of the above.  The fact is that the Mikros improve with burn in.  Whether or not this is true for all phones is irrelevant...it makes a difference with the Mikros.

post #4429 of 6486
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I tried another girlfriend, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear today and have to say I prefer it's bass, but will have to try them A/B before I decide. The M90 has more treble extension and detail from what I can tell. The Momentum are more comfortable but at the expense of isolation.

Out of the two HP's I think the Momentum would have more mass appeal sonically, comfort, and looks wise.

I will likely return the Momentum though because they have a proprietary connector on the HP so I can't hook up my android cable. But I want to A/B first.

BTW I got these for $183 at Future Shop after they price matched NCIX who has these on sale right now.


I will admit I liked the Momentum On Ear as well.  Had an opportunity to borrow a pair for a couple weeks from a co-worker.  This was before I got my Mikros so I was comparing them to my P5's.  At that time I preferred the P5's...but I would say it was a close call...the Momentums were as enjoyable as the P5's, but different.  Since I have got the Mikros, I haven't used my P5's very often as I prefer the detail of the Mikros.

post #4430 of 6486
I found the P5's a bit muffled when ever in tried them. These Momentum seem very satisfying and fun but they might not have as much detailed as I would like and I may not like their treble as much as my other headphones. But I will see over the next couple of days.
post #4431 of 6486
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I tried another girlfriend, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear today and have to say I prefer it's bass, but will have to try them A/B before I decide. The M90 has more treble extension and detail from what I can tell. The Momentum are more comfortable but at the expense of isolation.

Out of the two HP's I think the Momentum would have more mass appeal sonically, comfort, and looks wise.

I will likely return the Momentum though because they have a proprietary connector on the HP so I can't hook up my android cable. But I want to A/B first.

BTW I got these for $183 at Future Shop after they price matched NCIX who has these on sale right now.

 

How do you compare the Momentums to the M500's?

post #4432 of 6486
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I found the P5's a bit muffled when ever in tried them. These Momentum seem very satisfying and fun but they might not have as much detailed as I would like and I may not like their treble as much as my other headphones. But I will see over the next couple of days.


DW, I agree now that I have the Mikros...the P5's are veiled by comparison.  For me, the clarity of the Mikros is what sold me above all else.  My experience with high end HP's is limted, but I have not heard anything comparable to the Mikros.

post #4433 of 6486
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

I tried another girlfriend, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear today and have to say I prefer it's bass, but will have to try them A/B before I decide. The M90 has more treble extension and detail from what I can tell. The Momentum are more comfortable but at the expense of isolation.

Out of the two HP's I think the Momentum would have more mass appeal sonically, comfort, and looks wise.

I will likely return the Momentum though because they have a proprietary connector on the HP so I can't hook up my android cable. But I want to A/B first.

BTW I got these for $183 at Future Shop after they price matched NCIX who has these on sale right now.

Yeah tried the momentum on ears too but didn't like them as much as my momentum over ears
post #4434 of 6486
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Originally Posted by DMax99 View Post

Yeah tried the momentum on ears too but didn't like them as much as my momentum over ears

X2

Ya tried them side by side..over ear has a bigger sound. I let it go becos there is "something" missing in the momentum...
The wow factor ? It does most things ok.... That ok didn't open my wallet. tongue.gif
post #4435 of 6486
I actually returned the Momentum on ear, even though I got a really good deal on a pair. I actually found their in between on ear and over ear design very uncomfortable whereas the over ear model is comfortable because of the way they sit on my ears.

I will throw up some A/B comparisons tonight.
post #4436 of 6486
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Originally Posted by DMax99 View Post

Btw... Anyone knows where I can get a second pair for about 70 shipped to Australia? Neweg doesn't ship outside of US.

Maybe someone from the US here can help me out? Maybe we can work out a deal? Please PM me If your willing wink.gif

Thanks

Maybe the train captain pataburd can help....
Where's the chief, where's the chief?
post #4437 of 6486
Holy crap, the mic works with my android phone!!! That is a first. I lose the volume controls but the fact I can use these with my android phone is awesome!
post #4438 of 6486

Tonight's selections included the new Beck / Morning Phase album...laid back and very lush, and Donald Fagen / The Nightfly...outstanding on the Mikros...it's all in the details.

post #4439 of 6486
M90 vs Momentum on ear. Using just my LG G2 with 320kb MP3 files.

BTW comfort was more comparable than I thought.

Rush 2112 Overture

Momentum OE - these bass is nice and full making the song feel complete, warm full midrange makes the guitars sound very enjoyable. The treble is clear allowing decent replication of the drum kit. Vocals sound clear and not to reedy which is may show these are a bit forgiving as Geddy Lee's voice is pretty shrill.

M90 - the bass is tighter and more accurate but not as satisfying. The midrange is slightly less warm and not quite as forward but also more detailed. Treble is sharper and clearer/more forward. Vocals are just as pleasant as the OE so the M90 also does a good job here.

To be honest I like both HP's because they offer something different with the OE satisfying the bass crave and the M90 satisfying the detail craving. I believe the M90 will be more scalable as their balanced approach will allow for a stronger source and amp whereas the OE will likely become over bearing. I will modify this post with a notes on the difference from my Audioengine D1 later tonight.

Listening to the song with my Audio Engine D1 the treble of the M90 was occasionally to strong making them a bit piercing. I was a bit surprised by this as I thought I would really enjoy the M90 using my D1. Unfortunately the bass didn't improve as much as I thought it would either. When I switched to the OE I was surprised that the bass didn't become over bearing and instead found the mids and treble to be where there was improvement making the song slightly more detailed while still be very full sounding. The D1 being a bit warm in nature did make the OE slightly to warm for my tastes though. Interestingly both headphones saw more increases in clarity and sharpness in the same areas making the OE more enjoyable and the M90 to severe. While the OE became a bit warmer than I like I still preferred them over the M90 for this song.
Edited by dweaver - 3/28/14 at 10:52pm
post #4440 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

X2

Ya tried them side by side..over ear has a bigger sound. I let it go becos there is "something" missing in the momentum...
The wow factor ? It does most things ok.... That ok didn't open my wallet. tongue.gif

Yeah, it's not a "Wow" headphone but so was the 90 sounded like to me in the beginning. Even though it doesn't Wow me but the momentum is one of those headphones you can use to listen to all genre of music. That's why I sstill have them wink.gif
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