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post #2626 of 6492
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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
 

Got the 3 ft Auvio cable today, and have been listening for about 2 hours.  The barrels are 0.23" (approx. 6 mm) diameter.  The socket on the Mikros is about 0.28" (a hair over 7 mm).  The cable is not very flexible and the 3 ft length is just long enough for me to stow my iPod in the pocket of my hooded sweatshirt while listening...too short to reach pants pocket (I am 6'4").  The cable appears to be well made, and pretty sturdy.  It is not very flexible, but this may change with continued use.  I am not certain how much improvement, or difference, there is in the SQ compared to the stock cable...too soon to tell, but clearly there is no degradation to the SQ...the sweet Mikros sound transcends cable choice.   This was purchased at Radio Shack for $14.99.  I ordered the $2.99 cable from their web site (free ship to boot)...6' and not really practical for a portable set up.

Took my Mikros to RS today, and eyeballed the Pipeline ET4.  The clerk took one out of the box and as expected it doesn't fit the Mikros OTB as others ave indicated.  Didn't get it, but like the longer 4 ft length though.  May need to have another look at it.  What is with the arrows?  A directional electrical conductor...who comes up with this marketing nonsense.  Next thing you know we will have peeps saying that the SQ is degraded if you put it in backwards.

The Auvio must be solid core because it kinks and bends so readily and is pretty unwieldy--not the ideal for portable use.

post #2627 of 6492
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Tbh, I'm a bit surprised that you enjoy them with the bass mods. I thought the bass might be too much for you, or that you would think that other facets are degraded. So, it's pretty cool that you are liking the mods.

The mod loving is definitely putting some doubts in my mind when it comes to how true the hype really is/was. Kinda goes against what was said earlier about ample bass and whatnot.

post #2628 of 6492
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

 

Will do! I might hold off on the chugging until after getting the tape off THE HOLE intact. After that, chug fest!

 

Tbh, I'm a bit surprised that you enjoy them with the bass mods. I thought the bass might be too much for you, or that you would think that other facets are degraded. So, it's pretty cool that you are liking the mods.

Yes.  Surprised me, too.  In addition to fuller bass response, the mod seems to bring more depth, an increased sense of overall 3-D space and beautiful mids [just like Maxx--by the way, where is that boy?--and Lors reported].  I have not noted any degradation in the treble, either--amazing 'phones, these are.  

 

A couple of nights ago, I a/b-ed my stock, fully burned in pair versus the modded pair (with less than 5 hours run-in).  I thought I heard more gossamer-like low level detail with the unmodded set-up, but I am going to withold judgment until the modded pair gets at least another 100+ hours of play time.  

 

One thing, though, since I started listening to the modded set . . . well, that's all I have been listening to for the last few days.  It's the thrill of "break-in" all over again.  (And the Teds silver cable doesn't hurt any, either.)   :smile_phones:

 

Once you and I get the bass tweaked to our liking, this thread will be going into WARP Mikros HYPE-DRIVE!!!

:beerchug:

post #2629 of 6492
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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post
 

Got the 3 ft Auvio cable today, and have been listening for about 2 hours.  The barrels are 0.23" (approx. 6 mm) diameter.  The socket on the Mikros is about 0.28" (a hair over 7 mm).  The cable is not very flexible and the 3 ft length is just long enough for me to stow my iPod in the pocket of my hooded sweatshirt while listening...too short to reach pants pocket (I am 6'4").  The cable appears to be well made, and pretty sturdy.  It is not very flexible, but this may change with continued use.  I am not certain how much improvement, or difference, there is in the SQ compared to the stock cable...too soon to tell, but clearly there is no degradation to the SQ...the sweet Mikros sound transcends cable choice.   This was purchased at Radio Shack for $14.99.  I ordered the $2.99 cable from their web site (free ship to boot)...6' and not really practical for a portable set up.

Took my Mikros to RS today, and eyeballed the Pipeline ET4.  The clerk took one out of the box and as expected it doesn't fit the Mikros OTB as others ave indicated.  Didn't get it, but like the longer 4 ft length though.  May need to have another look at it.  What is with the arrows?  A directional electrical conductor...who comes up with this marketing nonsense.  Next thing you know we will have peeps saying that the SQ is degraded if you put it in backwards.


Well the SQ is degraded if I go against the arrows on my Cardas cable. Degraded as in no sound at all. It should be the same and only work in one direction. I forgot one time using it as a recording cable and, oops, no recording. The ET1 is not that way. It works in both directions.

 

After a couple of hours no less my ET1 has shown to be a bit better than the stock cable. Great for unamped use as it has more punch and is more visceral. This goes for the whole bass range up into vocals which are a bit sweeter. The stock cable seems soft now and drums and guitar lack the bit of impact gained with the ET1. Yet the stock cable doesn't sound really any brighter or cleaner which is great. Out of the package, the ET1 wasn't as tight sounding. There was a little bloat. They started hitting harder after a bit and it was easy to tell by the feel. Nice to have a more amped sound even tough I have no amps on hand atm. They sound slightly better powered even though they aren't.

 

Outside of that, the physical stuff: 

- I like the red and that it breaks up the black scheme a bit

- I like the extra .1 meter. The ET1 is a 1.3M length

- I like the RA plug on the Pipeline better than the stock

- again I like the thicker yet softer cable on the ET1. Also not as "grippy" a rubber sheathing(more shiny and slippery than the stock one)


Edited by jant71 - 2/28/14 at 5:27pm
post #2630 of 6492
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Originally Posted by robakri View Post
 

The mod loving is definitely putting some doubts in my mind when it comes to how true the hype really is/was. Kinda goes against what was said earlier about ample bass and whatnot.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

This mod was developed to offer something to the bassheads on this thread [who felt they needed more bass quantity from the Mikros].  

Maxx pioneered it.  He was the first to find, open and go down the hole.  Lors was next.  He went down the hole, then turned cave explorer.  We get intermittent messages from him from The Deep as he discovers and maps new passage ways.  

 

Have you heard the Mikros 90 modded?

If not, then your doubts are unsubstantiated.

The Mikros 90 will blow your mind--every which way.


Edited by pataburd - 2/28/14 at 10:40pm
post #2631 of 6492
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Originally Posted by robakri View Post
 

The mod loving is definitely putting some doubts in my mind when it comes to how true the hype really is/was. Kinda goes against what was said earlier about ample bass and whatnot.


 

That's why I'm not touching my pair.  But then again, they have two or three pairs to play around with and I'm sure that the bass boost does not completely eradicate the core signature.

 

 

 

They are just having fun, so leave them alone.

 

 

 

You are a grumpy old man.;)

post #2632 of 6492
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 


 

That's why I'm not touching my pair.  But then again, they have two or three pairs to play around with and I'm sure that the bass boost does not completely eradicate the core signature.

 

 

 

They are just having fun, so leave them alone.

 

 

 

You are a grumpy old man.;)

+1

 

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Be the more chill old man! That's the way to live! :cool:

 

Wayne, you are going to be commended for this! :) I was going to start my modding this morning, but I had no luck...

 

The dang screws are tiny, and I need someone who can lend me a tiny screwdriver, unless he doesn't have it, then I need to go to a store the next day...

 

Sad day...

 

And I'm staying away from mikros sonus, I'm going for the Mikrosrichbass since I lack leather...

 

Maybe when I get those harmans, I'll tear the leather headband and just throw it in there.  :D

post #2633 of 6492
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Originally Posted by robakri View Post
 

The mod loving is definitely putting some doubts in my mind when it comes to how true the hype really is/was. Kinda goes against what was said earlier about ample bass and whatnot.

 

Well, I can tell you that they hype was warranted. I didn't think that the bass would be ample enough for me in stock form. The bass is more than ample enough for me in stock form. I am truly surprised. Because they don't need any more bass, I'm just a teeny weeny bit afraid of doing the mod. But if Lorsspeaker and Pataburd and Maxxx123 are all loving it so much, that's all the encouragement this basshead needs. Afraid no more! Also, the mods are completely reversible, so there's not really any risk.

post #2634 of 6492
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 


 

That's why I'm not touching my pair.  But then again, they have two or three pairs to play around with and I'm sure that the bass boost does not completely eradicate the core signature.

 

 

 

They are just having fun, so leave them alone.

 

 

 

You are a grumpy old man.;)

elvergun,

To say that the mod simply boosts the bass would not be completely accurate because, in addition to the bass presence expanding--but at the same time maintaining spectral balance (no midbass hump here!), the overall size of the soundstage seems to expand appreciably and the midrange assumes greater depth and palpability.  

 

While the stock Mikros 90 DO SCALE WELL and present a believable, organic sense of 3-D space, the modded set seems to do all that, but even better, if you can imagine such a thing.  

 

If I had not modded my pair, there would have been no way for me to expect that the Mikros 90 could possibly pull off a feat like this but--amazingly and true to their pedigree--the MLs DO. 

 

When you think about what the mod does, it opens up all that space in the cup to the driver.  Like Maxx and Lors have already mentioned, it lets the drivers "breathe", and cut loose with all that Mikros 90 MOJO into probably 3x to 4x the volume (in the cup chamber).


Edited by pataburd - 2/28/14 at 6:30pm
post #2635 of 6492
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
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Be the more chill old man! That's the way to live! :cool:

 

Wayne, you are going to be commended for this! :) I was going to start my modding this morning, but I had no luck...

 

The dang screws are tiny, and I need someone who can lend me a tiny screwdriver, unless he doesn't have it, then I need to go to a store the next day...

 

Sad day...

 

And I'm staying away from mikros sonus, I'm going for the Mikrosrichbass since I lack leather...

 

Maybe when I get those harmans, I'll tear the leather headband and just throw it in there.  :D

With that statement, you're supposed to use a picture like this :)

 

post #2636 of 6492
Can someone advise pls.....if I chop off a one foot length from the ultrasone ext cable..
Do I ask for a 4pole socket, to fit the stock cable plug'? Tat way I get a perfect fit?



Wat I planned to do...
Lob off the main v moda cable, fit in a new plug...So I get a single stand alone cable.
.leave that remaining v moda 2inch v socket with original plug...
To fit into the ultrasone 1foot length extension I planned above.

That way I get a reasonably portable neat 5foot length cable made up of 3metals.
Edited by Lorspeaker - 2/28/14 at 5:57pm
post #2637 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

With that statement, you're supposed to use a picture like this :)

 

You make a good point!

 

Then I'll just restate it to mean that he should be the more outgoing old man. :D

post #2638 of 6492
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Bassoperating room ready for action:

 

 

Felt... check. Blue tac... check.

 

And should I have a couple of glasses of wine and decide to go for it with MikrosSonusBass, then leather in the form of a thrift store leather purse & double sided tape... check!


WAYNE wait for the Dynamat! ...my fellow Miracle Blade III brutha. You can do it. hold up a bit.

 

Thrift store purse huh.. yeahhhh, it's ok maybe SF making you do the pantyhose mod for the X1 got to you a bit? If not then it's perfectly ok to have a Man bag never call it a purse,according to SF that is.


Edited by nick n - 2/28/14 at 5:58pm
post #2639 of 6492
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

elvergun,

To say that the mod simply boosts the bass would be inaccurate because in addition to the bass presence expanding--but at the same time maintaining spectral balance (no midbass hump here!)--the overall size of the soundstage seems to expand appreciably and the midrange assumes greater depth.  While the stock Mikros 90 DO SCALE WELL and present a believable, organic sense of 3-D space, the modded set seems to do all that even better, if you can imagine that.  If I had not modded my pair, there was no way for me to expect that the Mikros 90 could possibly pull off a feat like this but--amazingly and true to their pedigree--the MLs DO. 


Hmmm, so other things improve, but the bass also increases.  I think the bass on the stock model is perfect.  You also mentioned that the bass was just about perfect (before the mod) ...what do you think of the bass after the mod?  If it was perfect before, is it less perfect now, is it more perfect, or is it just okay?

post #2640 of 6492
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^ Sweet, glad they finally came in. haha

 

Might have to grab one of those $2 auvio cables that is on sale from Da' Shack and see how i like them. : P

I think you will like them, SF.  They draw out a swingin', snappy side of Mikros that is fun to hear.  Fast and tight.  Great for pop IMHO.

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