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post #2446 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

I have a hard time taking that post seriously...

Preconceptions can be difficult to overcome.

I don't miss my HE-6--and I certainly don't miss my HE-500.

With the money gleaned from the sale of the HE-6, I bought two more Mikros 90s and two nice SS amps.  

:smile_phones:

post #2447 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

 

i havent associated any peak akin to those i heard in AKGs...i sold every one of those..just cant take vocals on those cans.

K550...Q701..K702.. all gone.

Agreed.  That upper midrange/lower treble smear in the K701 was the deal-breaker for me.

post #2448 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

I have a hard time taking that post seriously...

 

 

I have hard time believing that you are still worried about buying these headphones.

 

Even if we are full of crap and the Mikros is a horrible headphone, you will only be down around $70.

 

 

Just buy them.   

 

I'm sure you won't regret it.   If you do, I'm sure you can sell them for the same price you bought them for...if not now, when supplies of new models are finally depleted.

post #2449 of 5906
Well currently I'm really considering doing the DIY stratoKOSSter
post #2450 of 5906
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

 

I have hard time believing that you are still worried about buying these headphones.

 

Even if we are full of crap and the Mikros is a horrible headphone, you will only be down around $70.

 

 

Just buy them.   

 

I'm sure you won't regret it.   If you do, I'm sure you can sell them for the same price you bought them for...if not now, when supplies of new models are finally depleted.

I'm basically with this. I bought pataburd's HE-6 and own a set of HD650s and I don't put the Mikros in the same tier as either of those, but that said, they're an extremely solid mid-fi headphone that is definitely worth their $300 msrp. And you're getting it for 70 bucks. It's definitely worth it. 

post #2451 of 5906

Another new owner here. Ordered Monday from Amazon at $70 and got them yesterday. Can't beat that. Anyway, what follows is sort of a stream of consience first impressions. For reference, my main stereo has Martin Logan Vista's with two SVS ultra subs. Headphones on hand for comparison are Sennheiser 580's (oldies but goodies), Grado SR-60's, Ultrasone Pro-650. I also use Ety-ER6, and HiFiman RE-400 IEM's. Used Microsoft Surface and my second generation Zune as sources to this point, with a short stint on my iPod 5G. Waiting patiently for my Super Geek Out.

 

First the bad news. For me (large head) I'm having problems with the fit. All the other cans above are way more comfortable, especially the 580's with their soft velvet pads. The clamping force is high, but more anoying that that for me is the way the earpieces rotate towards the front of my head which ends up putting most of the pressure on the jaw muscles in front of my ear. It's not a deal breaker for me, since I listen to cans for short segments of time as I usually take them off several times an hour to leave my desk. My wife however said they were comfy so those of average head size probably will think I'm nuts. I'll play with stretching and bending the headband to try and change the angle it hits my ears.

 

The sound does remind me of my Vista's minus the subs. Nice and clean, and certainly the best mid and treble of all the cans I have here. There is a bit of a cupped hands type of coloration and a little bit of grain in the treble that I hope will disappear with break in, but it's not objectionable. My other cans sound thicker in comparison. Acoustic guitars and orchestra are very good with the Mikros. Actually everything I've played so far sounds good with these.

 

I haven't come to a definitive conclusion about the bass. This is of course subjective. At this point the 580's a and the Pro-650s seem to make string bass, and kick drums sound a little more forward with slightly more resonance to them. The reason for this is their bass is a bit "looser" for lack of a better word, but does sound maybe a little more real. However the Mikros bass is tight and well defined.

 

Perhaps the bass will losen up a little with break in. The one impression I keep coming back to is that initially the bass seems slightly constipated. :wink: It's there, but just quite can't make it out to my ears.

 

All in all, I would say first impressions are quite positive. The clairty is better than I expected and with some break in and stretched headband, they will do nicely for me. Overall I think they do stand up to Martin Logan's claim that they sound like their speakers. If anything changes after they get some hours on them, I'll follow up. For now they are definitely keepers sound wise and a real bargain at the current prices.

 

Happy listening,

 

Chuck

post #2452 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

What we need is a mod to do away with that lower treble peak.

I had the same issue, but I called it upper mid.

post #2453 of 5906
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Originally Posted by RAZRr1275 View Post
they're an extremely solid mid-fi headphone

 

Mid-fi?  :eek:

 

 

You better hide from pataburd. 

 

 

 

This is what happened to the last guy who made such a claim:

post #2454 of 5906
It's not so much sibilance, even though at certain times I do hear sibilance. It's the added 'hypeness' (best way I can describe it) added which is frankly unnecessary. It makes them more fatiguing. Don't get me wrong, I do love them but that 2khz-7.25khz peak is annoying.
post #2455 of 5906
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Originally Posted by kevb View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

I have a hard time taking that post seriously...

 

Either buy it or don't.....not that big a deal at the current prices, is it? What about his post is so hard to take seriously? It's his impressions - his ears. I took the plunge, I'm happy. Mind you, the bar wasn't set that high (Grado SR60i, AKG K172HD, PSB M4U-2).

 

Yup. @Nimzerz, Pataburd is serious, but they are his opinions. Would you find them to be better or as good as the HE-500's? Only you will know. But one thing for sure is that the Mikros 90's are indeed great, so for the price you can't really lose. If you end up not wanting them, you won't have any problem selling them once they are sold out everywhere. My guess though is that you would become a fan to some degree like almost everyone else has become.

post #2456 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

It's not so much sibilance, even though at certain times I do hear sibilance. It's the added 'hypeness' (best way I can describe it) added which is frankly unnecessary. It makes them more fatiguing. Don't get me wrong, I do love them but that 2khz-7.25khz peak is annoying.

 

Can you point out a spot in a particular song which exhibits this? (not sure if I asked for this before from you)

post #2457 of 5906
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

Well currently I'm really considering doing the DIY stratoKOSSter

Good luck with that...

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post #2458 of 5906
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post

Good luck with that...

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Do you or anyone else know if it's worth the money/effort? Does the sq warrant the time and money?
post #2459 of 5906
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

Mid-fi?  :eek:

 

 

You better hide from pataburd. 

 

 

 

This is what happened to the last guy who made such a claim:

^

 

.... Godfather Pata Hypa' taking down Logan 90s haterz naysayerz like a BOSS!!! :cool:

 

This Thread is gonna' be the death of me. LMAO : P

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

What we need is a mod to do away with that lower treble peak.
 

I had the same issue, but I called it upper mid.

 

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Originally Posted by Trunks159 View Post

It's not so much sibilance, even though at certain times I do hear sibilance. It's the added 'hypeness' (best way I can describe it) added which is frankly unnecessary. It makes them more fatiguing. Don't get me wrong, I do love them but that 2khz-7.25khz peak is annoying.

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Yup. @Nimzerz, Pataburd is serious, but they are his opinions. Would you find them to be better or as good as the HE-500's? Only you will know. But one thing for sure is that the Mikros 90's are indeed great, so for the price you can't really lose. If you end up not wanting them, you won't have any problem selling them once they are sold out everywhere. My guess though is that you would become a fan to some degree like almost everyone else has become.

^

I had such fatiguing listning experiences as well, cuz after i listen to these Logans via my ipod nano/ ventrurecraft DAP set up which is really tight and clean sounding makes my ears ring a bit after couple of hours, hence i attribute this to the more crisp upper mids/ lower treble peak, etc etc or what nots due to it's forwardness/ lushness.

 

BUT i experience no such listening fatigue, or very little off of my FiiO dac/Schiit Vali desktop setup which is more full, with better/ bigger bass and is less crisp/ sharp sounding compared to my portable set up, so............... this makes me believe that your source has A LOT to do with the "peaks" and fatigue some of ya'll are having.

 

My 2 cents.


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/27/14 at 10:46am
post #2460 of 5906
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

Mid-fi?  :eek:

 

 

You better hide from pataburd. 

 

 

 

This is what happened to the last guy who made such a claim:

Another poor soul living in denial--SIGH!

Let's administer the "wait-n-see" before the whip.


Edited by pataburd - 2/27/14 at 10:38am
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