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post #1741 of 6077
Let a friend listened to the Mikros.. He said its too enclosed the pads...
Today I swapped in the monster Ntune red pads, do away with the submarine effect for Gud.
Crystal clear guitaring, violining, pianoing, , the bass hits hard , tight....n palpable.
Now do I wan more basssss...?
post #1742 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

Actually loving the airy sound coming from these

Now on to rectifying comfort issues + to increase that bass

The tubular bands can be gently bent/molded/reshaped to custom fit your skull.  That was discussed back on pp. 10-20-ish, so comfort/fit should not be a deal-breaker.

 

I have gotten used to mine.  Over time they do tend to relax a bit on their own as well.


Edited by pataburd - 2/18/14 at 4:35am
post #1743 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

Impressed!!!!
Out of the box - the treble is extremely well done + forwardish, midrange is decent, bass is good and really rumbles when called for. Overall a very tight precise sound signature. Enjoyable for sure.
Doesn't have in the instrument seperation and clarity of the HE-500 for sure, but for the price... nice!!!
Slight comfort problems, clamping force is annoying-ish + very finicky with the fit.

Could be the best portable headphone I've heard yet

They may soon be the best closed cans you have ever heard then, possibly (like me), the best headphones--period--you have ever heard.  The Mikros 90 need at least 200 hours to settle in.  You can do better with a cable replacement.  Better sources and amping also bring the Mikros 90 to another level.

 

For me, the HE-5LE easily bettered the HE-500 for separation and clarity, plus extension and balance.  Then the HE-6 came along and bettered the HE-5LE.

 

Then the Mikros 90 came along and gave me what I considered a more technically and musically satisfying listen than even the HE-6(!)--which I susequently sold after a/b-ing with the MLs.

 

You can read between the lines . . . :smile_phones:

post #1744 of 6077
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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post

 

Anyone else have any experience with the B&W P5's and ML 90's?

Further up the thread trail, several have commented already.  ML users tend to (strongly) prefer the Mikros 90 to the P5.


Edited by pataburd - 2/18/14 at 7:50am
post #1745 of 6077
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

P5 has a more full bodied..mellow sound..doesnt extend top n bottomwise like the mikros.
Kinda like a esw9 but on ear version. I did enjoyed the p5...owned it twice. The clampforce on the P5 is less.
Errr..u heard sonus faber speakers b4?

I reckon a mikros with the fiio cable or beats cable might put the mikros as a better buy if u like full bodied presentation;
u get better extention, detailed textured sound...deeper soundstage.

Lors is making sense here.

 

Outfit the Mikros 90 with, for example, the FiiO RC MH1 cable to mellow the presentation and add a little body, but correspondingly lose some ultimate extension, flatter response and clarity at the extremes.  You get more of a "pop" or "fun" balance from the MLs.

 

Had another satisfying listen to the Mikros 90 with the FiiO cable.  Fleetwood Mac's Behind the Mask and some random Brian Auger tracks (with Oblivion Express).  What the FiiO sacrifices with respect to extension/clarity, the MLs make up for with tonal sophistication.  It's a way to highlight (yet) another of the Mikros 90's stellar attributes.  

 

A link to Brian Auger's "Truth":

 

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=brian+auger+truth&FORM=VIRE4#view=detail&mid=54BBAD88B595E672C90654BBAD88B595E672C906

 

 

So I will speak more kindly of the FiiO today.  After more exposure (used with lesser than my top tier gear) the RC MH1 regains it viable option status--now worth 1/2 to 2/3 its asking price [an upgrade from 1/3 to 1/2, as previously noted]. 


Edited by pataburd - 2/18/14 at 5:07am
post #1746 of 6077
I got the Fiio, think it sounds a bit edgy, haven't burned them (don't think I've EVER burned in a cable, but, who knows?). Listened to it after listening to ipod touch/Go-Dap/Shure 1540, the Go Dap is also pretty new, didn't get the same impression of edginess on the Shures, though, so seems like the cable (though maybe the Shures, which tend to be mellow, balance out the FIIO-this is a bit crazy making, but fun...)
As far as the Go Dap, a fun add on if you already use an i device...I have 2 left over Touches, from when my daughters "graduated" to iPhones, tend to use my X3 in the house, but for outdoors, chore type stuff (dog walking, shoveling-again this morning-mowing), line the UI of the iPod Touch, easy to use the shuffle and go through things randomly, hear stuff I have but hadn't gotten around to. X3 UI never quite clicks right, fine for whole albums, though.
Had the Oppo 105 on my wish/lust list for a while, hadn't heard of the mod, gotta run off to work now, read the stuff linked to later. Don't listen to the Big Rig much these days, hate being stuck in 1 "sweet spot", need a new potentiometer on my preamp, mostly play with my phones.
Later...
post #1747 of 6077
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Let a friend listened to the Mikros.. He said its too enclosed the pads...
Today I swapped in the monster Ntune red pads, do away with the submarine effect for Gud.
Crystal clear guitaring, violining, pianoing, , the bass hits hard , tight....n palpable.
Now do I wan more basssss...?

PICTURES????

 

SURE you want more basssss . . . [That's what your THIRD pair is for!!]


Edited by pataburd - 2/18/14 at 7:02am
post #1748 of 6077

Holy **** that's a lot of bass

Yes, I just did the bass mod. Probably a bit too much as it muddies up the sound quite a fair bit

So I'm thinking I might tape mod it

post #1749 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Impressed!!!!

Slight comfort problems, clamping force is annoying-ish + very finicky with the fit.
Could be the best portable headphone I've heard yet
What is funny is that if I put them on the wrong way, with left cup on my right ear,
It fits better as it does not slide forward any more!
Maybe we need a reverse cup mod,
Which actually would be possible because of the headphone jack on left cup! Haha!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Let a friend listened to the Mikros.. He said its too enclosed the pads...
Today I swapped in the monster Ntune red pads, do away with the submarine effect for Gud.
Crystal clear guitaring, violining, pianoing, , the bass hits hard , tight....n palpable..
OMG I need pics and link for pads!
Larger cups are what this thing needs for ear stability and fit.
The problem I encountered was altered more enclosed (!)soundstage and no more bass,
So for you to say it retain the bass is the "golden ticket"!
post #1750 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Holy **** that's a lot of bass
Yes, I just did the bass mod. Probably a bit too much as it muddies up the sound quite a fair bit
So I'm thinking I might tape mod it
I didn't experience any muddy and I believe it was because my drivers were new and need break in so I have them blasting away in a dresser drawer!
Try a more breathable felt and cotton in cup.

Also do you notice the mids more palpable?
I did smily_headphones1.gif
post #1751 of 6077
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post


I didn't experience any muddy and I believe it was because my drivers were new and need break in so I have them blasting away in a dresser drawer!
Try a more breathable felt and cotton in cup.

Also do you notice the mids more palpable?
I did smily_headphones1.gif

I noticed it became a lot more warmer in tone.

Bass is a little one note-ish. I think this might be beyond M100 levels at the moment in volume, approaching Beats territory LOL
I haven't dampened the cup yet. How much cotton do you recommend?

post #1752 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

I noticed it became a lot more warmer in tone.
Bass is a little one note-ish. I think this might be beyond M100 levels at the moment in volume, approaching Beats territory LOL

I haven't dampened the cup yet. How much cotton do you recommend?
cotton was only to disperse any sound wave reflections.
To lower bass the pinhole punch in original felt was already suggested before..
Edit:
Do not be lazy and leave felt in place and puncture hole into back of driver!
I know that was done but for some brutes out there,
They may insert a pin too deep by mistake and puncture driver!
Better to GENTLY take off felt and then make pin hole..
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/18/14 at 6:46am
post #1753 of 6077
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

I noticed it became a lot more warmer in tone.

*Bass is a little one note-ish. **I think this might be beyond M100 levels at the moment in volume, approaching Beats territory LOL
I haven't dampened the cup yet. How much cotton do you recommend?

Like Maxx noted, I will probably try some acoustic cloth or more permeable felt/fabric over the hole.  Am also considering leaving the hole wide open, but trimming a piece of acoustic fabric to fit between the driver and the memory foam ring cut-outs.  Have some fiberloft on hand, too.

 

* But "one-note" bass would definitely be a degradation of the stock driver sound(!), which has some of the best deep bass extension and articulation I have ever heard.

 

** "M100 levels", that will make vienbo and doctorjazz very, very happy!

 

Make sure to give them at least 200 hours before reaching definitive conclusions, though.  I am going to burn in my extra pair for at least 100+ hours before doing the Maxx Mod.  The stock sound on these does undergo quite a substantial metamorphosis during break-in.

 

But first things first.  I've got cables and amps to try with the stock MLs before reiterating with the Maxx-modded Mikros 90.


Edited by pataburd - 2/18/14 at 6:59am
post #1754 of 6077
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

The Mikros90 are pretty close in size and appearance and a logical choice.
Not to mention they make the P5 sound like tiny mud cans, in comparison... sorry to say!
I don't own but listened to them P5 on two occasions..

The price is right on the ML 90's so, why not?  Amazon is very good about returns if they do not measure up to the P5's.

post #1755 of 6077
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Originally Posted by zombywoof View Post  I am looking for a good quality first headphone for my daughter...just getting interested in this hobby...and I don't want to break the bank.  The price on the ML 90's is just right,  She is currently using my P5's and likes them too much.  I am afraid I may lose them if I don't act quickly.  I would kind of like to have them back. 

 

IMO, the Mikros is a lot better than the P5.

 

My advice to you:  get the Mikros 90s, but don't give them to her right away.  Listen to them first and you might prefer the Mikros.  You could end up getting the better end of the deal.

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