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post #1636 of 6492
Anyone eager to punch some needle holes into the stock pads ...?
Edited by Lorspeaker - 3/7/14 at 9:32am
post #1637 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Kbman View Post

Has anyone tried both the Sennheiser HD600s and the Denon AH-D600s? The Denons felt amazing. Like super comfortable and awesome sound. I know the 600s are open which I prefer, but what would you say is more worth it for the $300 or so price tag on the both of them?

Also, has anyone here tried the Xiaomi Pistons that has also tried the ATH IM-50/70s? I'm looking at those as well. I might even invest in a nice AMP/DAC for my desktop at home use.
Also got to try out the Mikros 90s at best buy. Sounded and felt pretty good smily_headphones1.gif can't wait to get them in soon...

Hd600 n denond600 are two diff animals... What u buy depends on your taste really.
Hd600 after awhile had slightly too little bass for me, n I bought a hd650 n added a silverplatedcopper to tighten the bass n add some sparkle to the highs.
D600 fits abit loose on my head, the bass somewhat loose...it won't be a can I would buy first...or keep for long.
U might like it for your taste of music. tongue.gif
Maybe a Modded Mikros would be a perfect blend of both the cans ...maybe.
post #1638 of 6492
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

I looked at the headphones he lists in his signature...and most are known for their bass.   I have not heard any of the models he owns (except for the GR07, which has about the same amount as the 90s), so perhaps the Mikros indeed does not go as low as his other headphones.  That does not mean that the 90s do not have excellent sub-bass.  

Yes, I found the GR07 to be bass-light as well, but only slightly.  Perhaps I would like the GR07 BE.  I wouldn't classify myself as a basshead, but I do like bass a good deal north of neutral.

 

The HPH-200 are my current favorite headphones, even ahead of the Mikros 90.  I like them more because they have more bass, they sound more natural, vocals are more forward, and they more my preferred sound signature.

 

The Mikros 90 upper mids are harsh to me.  Am I the only one?  For example, when Carrie Underwood or Cassadee Pope hit their upper registers, they sound harsh.  If the beats cable that I ordered increases the bass and tames the upper mids, then Mikros 90 may come out on top.  When they don't sound harsh and when I'm not looking for hard hitting bass, the Mikros do shine because they sound 3d and have more clarity than the HPH-200.

 

I'm also using the Mikros 90 unamped.  Perhaps the Mikros 90 need to be amped to fully shine.

post #1639 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

To me the stock was a little too much on the bright side.

 

I hear them the same way, a little too much on the bright side, like my Monster Gratitudes.  I may have to get the courage to do your mod :)

post #1640 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

 

I hear them the same way, a little too much on the bright side, like my Monster Gratitudes.  I may have to get the courage to do your mod :)

I find that the brightness/glare is an amp dependent thing. For instance, off of an ipod, the mid/highs could start to glare and sound slightly (but noticeably) out of tune, but with a warm tube amp it seems to be quite sweet and soft (but still textured/articulate). Now, I am coming from a Grado and B2, but as it stands, I'm gonna stick with the stock set up.

post #1641 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Cagin View Post
 

Haha nice!  Enjoy 'em when you get 'em :) 

mines are being held hostage at the customs, thinking of mounting an audiophonic assault at their compound to free 'em

 

ps: j/k they passed customs, tomorrow my door bell better ring or I will ask SF to gif spam them till mass hysteria ensues!

^ I got my gifs down to a science meng, ain't no spam. C'mon you wanna  piece of this??? LETS GO!!! :tongue:

 

 

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Originally Posted by YEYimeh View Post
 

Update on my initial impression of my (now modded) Mikros 90 vs HP 50 (for those who’re interested).

 

Mikros now give an overall fuller sound, due to increase in amount of bass, and an overall more enjoyable sonic signature imo. Bass quantity on both headphones is now comparable but the bass on HP 50 doesn’t reach quite as deep as on Mikors.

 

Midrange on both headphones is very good. Initially, I thought that the midrange presentation on Mikros is slightly more forward than on HP 50s; however after doing the mod, midrange on Mikros does recess a little bit putting the midrange presentation on both headphones to about the same level. Both do give a very clear and open midrange however, is a slight difference, probably due to treble quality/presentation, that gives me the feeling that Mikros have a more “musical” tonality while HP 50s have a more “neutral” tonality.  

 

Treble is where Mikros really shine. To me, highs on Mikros have a better resolution, extension and a more airy feel. Treble on HP 50 is ultimately lacking those airy feel that Mikros have, thus making it, for me, sound slightly less refined.

 

While both are very good headphones and are very well worth their asking price, I feel that, price and sound quality wise, Mikors is a better headphone, for general music listening, for me. Currently, I listen to most of my music on Mikros while I sometime switch to HP50s for a more “neutral” feel.

 

Ps. I found that by removing the entire adhesive tape that covered the back of the driver gave me too much bass. Instead I use a small needle to create a hole on the tape then put a small cotton pad into the cup, which gave me a right amount of bass. Those who are already satisfied with the amount of bass on mikros do not need to do the mod as it won’t change anything else except the quantity of bass.

^ WOW sweet impressions meng, keep em' coming!!! :beerchug:

 

 

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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

If you have two pairs, why not?

 

Maybe perfection for some people can be found in the bass enhanced Mikros 90. 

 

I'm not touching mine though...I do find the bass to be just right for my tastes.

^ To quote the wimpy one "WIMP!!!"

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

YEYimeh is right on the money...
Put a lil cotton in that empty chamber behind the driver, not too dense but nice and fluffy. ..
As for the pin hole instead of all off..
I rather have that driver hole full open so I can access her extreme bass.... ... lol!
It's alk "SF" fault I bought two.. tongue.gif ha

^ Hey meng, i just told you to check these out ain't no one said anything 'bout no hoarding now. I only got one so.......... don't blame your own problems on me meng. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post


I don't want to hyperbole, but I have no choice. .


Once modded..
These Mikros ARE what the beyer DT1350 SHOULD HAVE BEEN! !


Detailing, mids, trebles, musical, and bass..

Its all there..The Mikros TROUNCES THE BEYERS!!

GO MIKROS90.!! BASS MOD ON!!!

^ And people think i spam???

 

..... better shut it if you know what's good for ya'. :veryevil:

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Bingo on that! Lol.

I feel that the mod will probably make me forget the re700s. Oh well! I will probably do the mod this week.

^

S_WIMP!!!


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/16/14 at 8:03pm
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post


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EX_WIMP!!!

:p 

 

or at least a wimp to disregarding breaking the headphones by accident with the mod.

 

Now I'm wimping out because of a possible loss of love that my re700s may get from me. :(

 

you're still a wimp as well sf!!! You didn't mod it yet. :(


Edited by vlenbo - 2/16/14 at 7:14pm
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post

^

EX_WIMP!!!

 

you're still a wimp as well sf!!! You didn't mod it yet. :(

^ ehhh i only have one set though. :rolleyes:

 

I am gonna let maxx/ others finalize the mods 1st and then go mod them later on, or even better maxx can mod them for me. hoho :veryevil:

 

So does EX_WIMP mean you already modded your 2nd set huh??? Piffffffff, PICS OR IT DIDN"T HAPPEN!!! :)

 

For now you're still a S_WIMP!!! if you can't produce the pics. :bigsmile_face:

post #1644 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

I hear them the same way, a little too much on the bright side, like my Monster Gratitudes.  I may have to get the courage to do your mod smily_headphones1.gif

The stock cable was a little bright for me too, switched to a v moda cable n it was gone.
Before that I just added an ultrasone extension cable, n that solved the problem too.
Small issue really.
post #1645 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

 

I'm also using the Mikros 90 unamped.  Perhaps the Mikros 90 need to be amped to fully shine.

Amp them and discover a level of performance heretofore unheard.  IMHO you haven't gotten past the tip of the iceberg with the Mikros 90 until you feed them from a good source and a good amp, and every tweak you can manage to get inbetween.  

 

I have a Burson HA-160 [and a UPOCC silver cable] coming in next week, and am still on the lookout for a Lehmann Black Cube Linear.

 

Don't misunderstand me: the Mikros 90 sound superlative running from just about anything.  [I just had a fine listen from my home theater Sony BDP-S580 and the headphone out from the Denon AVR-1905.]  But when I hook these up to my best source and amp, they take me into a whole 'nother dimension of detail, resolution, extension, tonality and spatial realism whose overall sum is an exponentiated musicality.  Add a compatible after market cable and you land squarely on the REFERENCE Class side of highend, IMHO.

 

You will, I believe, discover over time--and after a lengthy break-in--that the Mikros 90 will respond noticably to every little change upstream; they're amazing in that respect.


Edited by pataburd - 2/16/14 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

Amp them and discover a level of performance heretofore unheard.  IMHO you haven't gotten past the tip of the iceberg with the Mikros 90 until you feed them from a good source and a good amp, and every tweak you can manage to get inbetween.  

 

I have a Burson HA-160 [and a UPOCC silver cable] coming in next week, and am still on the lookout for a Lehmann Black Cube Linear.

 

Don't misunderstand me: the Mikros 90 sound superlative running from just about anything.  [I just had a fine listen from my home theater Sony BDP-S580 and the headphone out from the Denon AVR-1905.]  But when I hook these up to my best source and amp, they take me into a whole 'nother dimension of detail, resolution, extension, tonality and spatial realism whose overall sum is an exponentiated musicality.  Add a compatible after market cable and you land squarely on the REFERENCE Class side of highend, IMHO.

 

You will, I believe, discover over time--and after a lengthy break-in--that the Mikros 90 will respond noticably to every little change upstream; they're amazing in that respect.


^ +1

 

Don't forget 'bout them changes due to cable rollin' as well. : P

 

These Logans are a true modders dream just like the JVC S500s but these Logans takes it wayyyyyyyy higher in sonic capabilities/ performance. No wonder i love these so much. It's like a JVC S500 redux but in the high end league. :ksc75smile:

post #1647 of 6492
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

 

been reading up on your arsenal...:P

 

the GnW is a hybrid huh....how does it compare to a LYR? 

U still have your KMF...u tried to sell it a year or two ago..? 

The FItz mod is to add the crossfeed? read that the Bada is an euphonic sounding amp..how does this compare to the 336se?

Have u tot of upgrading the dac in your Sonyplayer .. EVS did some magic there i read.. can this player do an optical out to the latest high res dac in the mkt?

 

i dun get into modded players/amp stuff...just buy..listen..n sell..lolz.

Did some tube rolling, n thats about as adventurous as i can be.

In addition to building the crossfeed, Fitz re-wired with UPOCC copper, replaced critical caps with V-Caps, Philips, Black Gates, etc.  Rebuilt the potentiometer with Tantalum resistors.  Upgraded many resistors with Milnes, had some heatsinks custom-made, put in WBT RCA jacks and many other things--they are all on the Bada thread.  I have more money in that amp than I have in my car, LOL!

 

The upgraded Bada sounds more balanced, extended and detailed than the 336SE and less "tubey".  It [the Bada] never struck me as euphonic-sounding to begin with, but then, I always tended to run Sylvanias and other more neutralish-sounding tubes with it, plus the Toshiba MosFets make for a more even-handed sound as well.

 

Enjoyed the G&W, which was quite a neutral-sounding amp, more solid state than tube in character.  Never tried a Schitt.

 

Tomorrow, I am thinking about running the Mikros 90 from the preamp out on the Qinpu A-1.0X using an RCA-to-Headphone Out adapter.  : )

 

Not sure about the optical out on the EVS-modded S780.  Am considering the all-out 2-channel EVS-modded Oppo 105.  I wonder how the MLs would sound then, but can only dream about it at this stage.

 

Mikros 90 = cable-roller's, tube-roller's, amp-roller's [and now source-roller's] dream!!!   


Edited by pataburd - 2/16/14 at 8:25pm
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The Kick drum n snare were so tight n textured on a Chris Botti song, I just stood there in the washroom...looking at this little gem in the mirror...hooked to my iPad.
Dun get confused, the little gem is the Mikros...hehe.
Edited by Lorspeaker - 2/16/14 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 


^ +1

 

Don't forget 'bout them changes due to cable rollin' as well. : P

 

These Logans are a true modders dream just like the JVC S500s but these Logans takes it wayyyyyyyy higher in sonic capabilities/ performance. No wonder i love these so much. It's like a JVC S500 redux but in the high end league. :ksc75smile:

and you forgot the es700s had its fair share of mods too, lol.

 

But besides that one, this martin logans were specifically made for reference in a $300 package. :basshead: boy these are worth that much for sure.

 

 

And I guess I'll keep that S_wimp title for a while then. :rolleyes: But at least we're in this together! 

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These are priceless 💕
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