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post #1276 of 6486

SL, give the cable about 30 hours to settle down.

 

The FiiO RC MH1, after about 25 hours, is settling down into a great listen with the MLs  That slight injection of warmth--I will call it "warmth" for lack of a better word right now--has ripened into nice lushness and liquidity that carries the tone and detail of the Mikros 90 into another category.

 

During the very first hours, the bass is a little out of focus--foggy.  After about 12-15, the bass has not yet settled down.  It sounds like a disjointed "rim" or "halo" of midbass surrounding the midrange.  There seems to be an annoying overhang or honkiness around vocals. I wasn't sure whether or not this was a coloration imposed by the cable itself at this point, because it did not sound like it was integral with the source recording.

 

However after about 25 hours--whether due to cable burn-in, brain burn-in or the wine I drank--the RC MH1 finds its stride.  

 

Supertramp's "Bloody Well Right" and "Rudy" definitely benefit from the added midbass body rendered by the FiiO, there is more natural push and bass drive with the guitars.  A more "filled out" sound overall.

 

The bass on Neil Young's "Old Man" and "Heart of Gold" came across with a real warm peal, a "licking" quality, that made me enjoy the track more than ever.

 

Jefferson Airplane's "Crown of Creation" and "Pretty as You Feel" came across with a renewed and natural warmth/body particular to the FiiO.

 

Gracie Slick's signature vocal on "Triad" came across with a settled warmth/presence that seemed to better convey the emotion of this track.  

 

Finally ended with Shirley Horne's "Once I Loved" (again).  Definitely coming across with a warmth/body/presence unique to the RC MH1's rendering.

 

Another analogy with saxophone:

Pipeline ET-4: you hear more of the bite on the reed and sound originating primarily from the mouthpiece.

FiiO RC MH1: you hear more from the bell and sound originating/developing through the body of the horn.

Again, it is a slight shift in spectral emphasis, not a quantum 100 Hz leap.

 

Will continue to burn-in the FiiO on my desk gear today.

 

vienbo and doctorjazz might want to give the FiiO a shot.  Again, the RC MH1 will not turn the Mikros 90 into "Ultrasonesque" bass beasties, but I think the cable brings a welcome sense of warmth to the ML's bass (and overall frequency spectrum) that neither the stock cable nor the Pipeline offer.  In addition, the FiiO brings out more liquidity and smoothness from the Mikros 90.  It's like having a different set of headphones, with the MLs faithfully conveying the new configuration of upstream components (including cables).

 

It's $30.99/shipped and there are NO fitting issues with the input plug.


Edited by pataburd - 2/12/14 at 2:42pm
post #1277 of 6486

what is the length of this fiiio cable? its an Oyaide copper? 

post #1278 of 6486

After burning these in over night, they still sound kind of funky, kind of like the K545 to me. They both have a somewhat similar problem with the upper midrange. I take back my comments about them being better than the P7 and H6, but they're still decent. $80 for them is a great deal for them since they don't do all that much wrong, but now they're back to Newegg!

post #1279 of 6486

i love every can in my arsenal in its own way...just put on the D7k,

after two years i am still discovering new music/presentation betw this can n my setup/s

dun see how any can in the world can replace it. 

 

(And i dun see how any can can replace the Mikros for what it does.)

 

All the best to your next quest Iscabible...u came by like a wind...too fast too fast.. in 24hours u are gone...sigh.

:(


Edited by Lorspeaker - 2/12/14 at 8:43am
post #1280 of 6486

It was more like less than 12 haha I got the RMA number within like 8 hours of getting it. I'll kind of miss it, but I can use my ZMF as portables I guess.

post #1281 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Ishcabible View Post
 

After burning these in over night, they still sound kind of funky, kind of like the K545 to me. They both have a somewhat similar problem with the upper midrange. I take back my comments about them being better than the P7 and H6, but they're still decent. $80 for them is a great deal for them since they don't do all that much wrong, but now they're back to Newegg!

These need about 300 hours before they settle down--or you settle into them.  The Mikros 90 get progressively better with time; and they improve remarkably.

Trunks, I believe, also heard upper midrange aberrations with the Mikros 90 in the early going.  (Search some of Trunks' early posts on this thread.)  Now he is a fierce proponent.

But, hey, maybe the Mikros 90 just weren't "in the cards" for you.


Edited by pataburd - 2/12/14 at 2:49pm
post #1282 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

what is the length of this fiiio cable? its an Oyaide copper? 

120 cm = 47.24 in = 3.94 ft.


Edited by pataburd - 2/12/14 at 10:01am
post #1283 of 6486
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Originally Posted by RAZRr1275 View Post
 

Hm. I guess I'm still that weird guy who didn't find a problem with the K702s upper mids/treble

The smear in the upper mids/lower treble was the end of my (fairly long) relationship with the K701.

post #1284 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Ishcabible View Post

They most definitely are better than their price tag would dictate, and I prefer them to the K545, W1000X, P7, and H6, but the problem is that I prefer my ZMF, which does everything the Mikros is doing...but better. I'd rather put the $90 towards the HE500 that I know I'll love.

Wow, $250, $419, $499, and $395 headphones.  Mine should arrive today!

post #1285 of 6486
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
 

The smear in the upper mids/lower treble was the end of my (fairly long) relationship with the K701.

I don't think (at least consciously) that I got rid of them for a particular reason. It was more that the 650s just kept sounding more and more "right" to me to the extent that when I put the K702s on they just started to sound more off. Nothing in particular that I can put into words but more of a shift in what my perception of a "natural" sound was. 

post #1286 of 6486

I have more to say now that they have some hours on them:)

 

Reading the box yesterday about being "inspired by legendary electrostatic loudspeakers", I would have said that I really don't hear it. A good well balanced dynamic headphone but not very stat sounding. With some hours of use, more stat-like traits are coming out. The PrAT has sped up and they are more quick and lively which I like very much. More 3D sounding than out of the box as they are separating out. The stat-like trait of certain notes quickly popping up anywhere in the image(depends on the recording of course) just wasn't there before. Reading that same line of the Mikros 90 box today is more convincing :smile:!

 

I don't hear them gaining bass like some have said. Not at this point anyway. What I hear them gaining in is bass quality. Separated more and that helps the sub-bass seem to reach lower. More detail and texture coming through. The thing I really hear more of is impact. Like my modded CD666, the bass was fairly soft and not very visceral but the Sony maxes out my players and needs an amp to gain that. One trait of the HM9 that I liked better; some "feel" unamped. The Mikros 90 bass now is more visceral and has some thump. Not a lot but enough for my liking. The treble and mids separating and cleaning up have given the "thinner" mids a few have mentioned. This also might add to the appearance of more bass comparing the two but the mids are just thinner. So, I hear the same bass amount with more quality and punch, thinner mids, and more open treble.

 

So, I now hear a bigger sounding 90, more layered out with better extension, better detail and resolution, quicker and more involving, and in general most of the things others are hyping about them. They are starting to "come into their own", if you will, and differentiating themselves from the CD666's evaporated titanium drivers in some areas though they will always be close in tone and timbre.

 

Certainly an upgrade to cans like the Q460 and HD25 esp. unamped. Hard pressed even at this point to find something better if you want to stay at 160 grams and that small a footprint!

post #1287 of 6486
Does anybody have measurements of mikros 90?
post #1288 of 6486

Awesome impressions @jant71! Thanks.

post #1289 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

Wow, $250, $419, $499, and $395 headphones.  Mine should arrive today!

^ But these Logans were originally $300 cans though....... :rolleyes:

 

Don't judge them base on price meng, just on pure unadulterated sonics please. :basshead:

 

 

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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

I have more to say now that they have some hours on them:)

 

Reading the box yesterday about being "inspired by legendary electrostatic loudspeakers", I would have said that I really don't hear it. A good well balanced dynamic headphone but not very stat sounding. With some hours of use, more stat-like traits are coming out. The PrAT has sped up and they are more quick and lively which I like very much. More 3D sounding than out of the box as they are separating out. The stat-like trait of certain notes quickly popping up anywhere in the image(depends on the recording of course) just wasn't there before. Reading that same line of the Mikros 90 box today is more convincing :smile:!

 

I don't hear them gaining bass like some have said. Not at this point anyway. What I hear them gaining in is bass quality. Separated more and that helps the sub-bass seem to reach lower. More detail and texture coming through. The thing I really hear more of is impact. Like my modded CD666, the bass was fairly soft and not very visceral but the Sony maxes out my players and needs an amp to gain that. One trait of the HM9 that I liked better; some "feel" unamped. The Mikros 90 bass now is more visceral and has some thump. Not a lot but enough for my liking. The treble and mids separating and cleaning up have given the "thinner" mids a few have mentioned. This also might add to the appearance of more bass comparing the two but the mids are just thinner. So, I hear the same bass amount with more quality and punch, thinner mids, and more open treble.

 

So, I now hear a bigger sounding 90, more layered out with better extension, better detail and resolution, quicker and more involving, and in general most of the things others are hyping about them. They are starting to "come into their own", if you will, and differentiating themselves from the CD666's evaporated titanium drivers in some areas though they will always be close in tone and timbre.

 

Certainly an upgrade to cans like the Q460 and HD25 esp. unamped. Hard pressed even at this point to find something better if you want to stay at 160 grams and that small a footprint!

^ HYPED!!!  DAT BOX LABEL MIND CONTROL/ BRAINWASH!!! :cool:

 

 

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Originally Posted by FALEEV View Post

Does anybody have measurements of mikros 90?

^ Inks and Co, i mean "Rinks" will once he gets his set in i am sure of that. If not no biggie, graphs or no graphs i don't need them to enjoy my Logans. :tongue:

 

 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

Awesome impressions @jant71! Thanks.

 

^ + 1 HYPED!!!

 

Keep em' coming and don't be gentle on them. Burn the hell outta' of them and give it to us raw.................................. impressions that is. :ph34r:

post #1290 of 6486
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Wow, $250, $419, $499, and $395 headphones.  Mine should arrive today!

Well, it should also be said that I downright dislike the W1000X and prefer my $30 Yamaha HP3 to all the above, and the Mikros as well...
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