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post #10216 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post
 

Fraggler and I replaced the built-in jack with a balanced TRRS jack. So yes, it's fully balanced.

 

Kojaku


Sorry noob question: what exactly is balanced and what benefit does it bring?

post #10217 of 13906
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Originally Posted by BucketInABucket View Post



Music preferences? Budget? Level of isolation? Build quality? And most importantly, sound quality? Such are the questions required to win that race biggrin.gif

Up to 600-700usb but less is better. Closed over ear. I like my bass. Clean, nice sub not fake DnB bad production bass ramble. I listen to experimental, idm, modern jazz, electronic in general and some rock of course.

(Ive been reading threads about, th600, shure1540, alpha dogs, focal classics etc....)
post #10218 of 13906
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Originally Posted by indieman View Post


Sorry noob question: what exactly is balanced and what benefit does it bring?

Balanced in layman's terms is using a separate amplifier circuit to drive each side of the headphone.

The benefits in electrical terms are:
-Doubles the effective slew rate (which is a fancy way of saying that there is twice as much wattage per channel)
-Dedicated grounds (meaning that each channel has a dedicated return path)
-Phase cancellation (meaning that the separate pathways provide a flip-phase signal that cancels distortion)

What this means for you:
-Doubled slew rate means more grunt. This means you'll get less clipping and have more headroom to drive and control the drivers properly
-Dedicated grounds remove the possibility of channel crosstalk, which means a cleaner, blacker background
-Phase cancellation means DRAMATICALLY lower distortion. Larger perceived soundstage. More distinct instrument and voice separation.

Any other questions let me know smily_headphones1.gif

Kojaku
post #10219 of 13906
Man, thanks for the explanation. I too was curious about balanced cans. Now I may have to look into getting my DT880s 250ohm balanced. And a balanced amp. I do have one question though since I'm new to this stuff. My 5.5G iMod, since I use the line out right now to a 3.5mm, will I get the benefit of using balanced amp/cans?

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post #10220 of 13906
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Originally Posted by DR650SE View Post

Man, thanks for the explanation. I too was curious about balanced cans. Now I may have to look into getting my DT880s 250ohm balanced. And a balanced amp. I do have one question though since I'm new to this stuff. My 5.5G iMod, since I use the line out right now to a 3.5mm, will I get the benefit of using balanced amp/cans?

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It kind of depends on the quality of your line out. If it's already pretty hot line out, then you probably wont really hear an advantage in anything except pure watt increase. I know the iMod is pretty high quality stuff though, so I think you should be fine.

 

Edit: Also, does your iMod have a balanced DAC section?

 

Kojaku 


Edited by Kojaku - 2/20/14 at 7:40am
post #10221 of 13906
Today I heard for the first time LCD XC first closed headphone from Audeze at our local store in a Jakarta

Source : iPhone 4s
Dac : Cypher Labs Class Solo Original
Amp : Cypher Labs Duet
Headphone : LCD XC

Sound Quality : very impressed with the sound quality from this first closed headphone from Audeze LCD XC pair with my set up .
LCD XC sound quality is different from the other Audeze House Sound character like LCD 2 rev 3 and LCD 3 .
IMO

Demo unit LCD XC



My friend brand new out the box LCD XC

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Edited by rudi0504 - 2/20/14 at 5:46pm
post #10222 of 13906
Awesome. Thanks. It sounds good enough as is so I thought I'd ask. If there will only be a Watt increase I don't need it. I'd rather invest in a different amp then the Fiio E17 I'm currently using. Just to head the sound quality difference. tongue.gif

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post #10223 of 13906
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Originally Posted by DR650SE View Post

Awesome. Thanks. It sounds good enough as is so I thought I'd ask. If there will only be a Watt increase I don't need it. I'd rather invest in a different amp then the Fiio E17 I'm currently using. Just to head the sound quality difference. tongue.gif

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Well that isn't to say that the single-ended portions of these amps aren't great either. These are top-flight amps we're talking about. I don't really know of an amp that's balanced that doesn't have both se inputs and outputs. Cept maybe the F-35 lightning, which only has balanced output.

 

Kojaku

post #10224 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Kojaku View Post


Balanced in layman's terms is using a separate amplifier circuit to drive each side of the headphone.

The benefits in electrical terms are:
-Doubles the effective slew rate (which is a fancy way of saying that there is twice as much wattage per channel)
-Dedicated grounds (meaning that each channel has a dedicated return path)
-Phase cancellation (meaning that the separate pathways provide a flip-phase signal that cancels distortion)

What this means for you:
-Doubled slew rate means more grunt. This means you'll get less clipping and have more headroom to drive and control the drivers properly
-Dedicated grounds remove the possibility of channel crosstalk, which means a cleaner, blacker background
-Phase cancellation means DRAMATICALLY lower distortion. Larger perceived soundstage. More distinct instrument and voice separation.

Any other questions let me know smily_headphones1.gif

Kojaku

double distortion and some other negative things that come with to sets of everything. 

Balancing the Pros and Cons is a personal thing or course.

 

I read a nice article from a guru in the field about it at some point.

post #10225 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post


Up to 600-700usb but less is better. Closed over ear. I like my bass. Clean, nice sub not fake DnB bad production bass ramble. I listen to experimental, idm, modern jazz, electronic in general and some rock of course.

(Ive been reading threads about, th600, shure1540, alpha dogs, focal classics etc....)

The Sony MDR-7520s sound pretty good as far as I know. The AKG-K545 are another decent cheaper alternative and so are the NAD HP50s, although they might be a bit bass-light for your tastes and if you can get past the goofy-looking headband.

post #10226 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post
 

double distortion and some other negative things that come with to sets of everything. 

Balancing the Pros and Cons is a personal thing or course.

 

I read a nice article from a guru in the field about it at some point.

The biggest disadvantage by far is the draw at the socket. From what I understood, balanced amping REDUCED distortion, though. Am I misinformed?

 

Kojaku

post #10227 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post
 

double distortion and some other negative things that come with to sets of everything. 

Balancing the Pros and Cons is a personal thing or course.

 

I read a nice article from a guru in the field about it at some point.

 

Dude here you go again, is that you call "research" by reading a nice article from a guru in the field? The only way to find out the fuss, with your own gears, is to experiment yourself and hear with your own ears. Of course, there is no guarantee you will hear improvement as much as other hear theirs, but that doesn't change others' opinions and what they have heard. :wink: 

post #10228 of 13906
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post
 

 

Dude here you go again, is that you call "research" by reading a nice article from a guru in the field? The only way to find out the fuss, with your own gears, is to experiment yourself and hear with your own ears. Of course, there is no guarantee you will hear improvement as much as other hear theirs, but that doesn't change others' opinions and what they have heard. :wink: 

 

LOL

 

Most of the times I get my info from Jesus :)

Sometime I read things on the Net! Totally unreliable :) (true!)

 

Indeed that doesnt change I thing! 

post #10229 of 13906

I'm gonna be honest and say that I haven't found any REAL disadvantages to balanced drive other than a lack of inherent flavor (which is only really a disadvantage for folks who like color in their audio chain), but then again there are balanced tube amps for that sort of thing now...(although the idea of adding more distortion in after going to such pains to reduce it seems odd to me).

 

Kojaku

post #10230 of 13906
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post
 

 

LOL

 

Most of the times I get my info from Jesus :)

Sometime I read things on the Net! Totally unreliable :) (true!)

 

Indeed that doesnt change I thing! 

 

Then why you PM and ask people for info on diymod and how to fix your broken cable?

 

 

P.S. I apologize for not replying to your PM soliciting info on diymod, as I simply ignored it.


Edited by DMinor - 2/20/14 at 12:21pm
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