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post #121 of 241
I cant say much about the leekage, but the isolation is good. Used them in a flight back to town with the lowest bass port and driven out of an ipad, it was enough.

Onr thing though, the bass is quite fatigueing. I dont know if this is because of my low bass tolerance or the punch is just too powerful
post #122 of 241

Yeah, dependant on what I'm listening to, I have to exercise judicious use of EQ so that it doesn't get too overpowering. Although I've found that if I EQ with the ports closed first, they're then set just about right to give me non-punishing but still fun levels of bass.

post #123 of 241

Not had them long and may improve with burn in (according to others), but have noticed the amp can impact significantly on the bass level regardless of the bass port setting on the COP. Tried them with the O2, ALO National and finally the Graham Slee Voyager. With the Voyager, the bass impact increases dramatically compared to the other amps. The O2 is great with the COP bass port on the 3rd highest bass setting. Note - I don't use any IPod Classic EQ.

post #124 of 241

Had the COP's for 3 month now and it feels like the sound is still improving, the mids have come out much more in the last month or so.  Am now really enjoying the sound.

post #125 of 241

I have the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro headphones....I just replaced the earpads with velour pads...big comfort difference....great headphones....I also have the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 ohm....I bought both and couldn't decide which I liked better, so I kept both....

post #126 of 241

could you describe differences?

post #127 of 241

I think the COP are headphones designed primarily to produce musical pleasure. It seems a natural and very interesting approach, at the end of the work day that's what we want if we are not recording engineers.

post #128 of 241
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Originally Posted by 6SenSensai View Post

What can I say about Beyerdynamic's Custom One Pros?  A lot.  And I'm currently wearing them listening to music while I type this.  Going on 6 hours now.  These are impressive for the pricetag, and right out of the box they sound is amazing.  They're actually the first headphones I haven't had the inclination to open up and tinker with to see if I could improve the sound.  The bass response slider is innovative, with 4 positions that can be changed on either cup with just a click.  From position 1, you get a clean and crisp, very crystal clear annalytical sound that still surprisingly has enjoyable, slightly punchy bass.  As you move up towards position 4, the sound coming from the cans becomes more robust, with punchier bass, and finally at position 4 you get thumping bass that bassheads will love.  The amount of bass these cans can produce is just a shy step under the DT 770 pros.
 
Build Quality:
Right out of the box, you'll notice the build quality.  I'm impressed with the amount of metal used in the build.  The cups are metal.  The customizable backs and frame are metal.  The Y-forks connecting the cups to the headband are metal.  The build immediately resembles the DT-770 pro, accept with more metal.  Yet despite this, the build is exceptionally light at only 290g.  That's roughly .64 pounds.  The best part of the Custom One is that almost everything can be customized.  Want velour earpads instead of the pleather ones that come with? Easy.  Want to change the faceplate? Order a pre-made one that's right for you.  Or order a blank one and have a decal lazered on there.  The headband comes off easily and can be replaced.  The pleather earpads that come stock on the Custom One are exceptional, and although small, they're filled nicely.  They don't feel cheap on your head.  The removable 2.5mm connector is a must for anyone who wants to keep their cans for an extended period of time.  Drivers last for years if maintained, and if anything wires and cables are what may go bad.  So having a disconnecting cable is a win for this build!
5/5
 
Sound Quality:
Wow.  It was the word that first came to my mind after listening to the first few tracks from my mp3 player even after the unboxing.  I listened to rock, punk, metal, dubstep, epic.  It was all epic.  And the fact that I could change the way the music sounded with just a flick of the thumb was even more epic.  The positions 1,2,3,4 ,mix progressively heavier bass into a crystal-clear and enjoyable soundstage that is awe inspiring when compared to other cans in the price range( SRH840s, ATHM50s, ATHA900Xs, AKG K550s, HD558s).  I have to say that I recently bought a pair of AKG K550s and have to say how thuroughly disappointing they were.  Bass sounded like a tin can, they didn't sound open at all despite how much people raved about them, and there was a sharp peak in the upper mid ranges that forced me to constantly listen to music at unenjoyable volumes, and just knowing it was there made me shake my head in disgust.  That, and they were made in China.  Anyway...I just realized I've had my Rise Against mix on repeat.  Hold on.  And yeah, I've been grudge matching my Custom Ones with my other cans so my claims are justified.  I'll go through each position seperately.
 
Position 1 - Crystal-clear annalytic.  Guitar riffs, then vocals up front.  Fast and crisp, and guitar riffs can be heard with sensational clarity.  Slight bass.
 
Position 2 - Slightly more bass mixed in, less annalytic and more rounded sound.  Vocals more pronounced.
 
Position 3 - Vocals further pronounced, guitar riffs begin to mix better with more pronounced bass.
 
Position 4 - Bass is substantial, but while thumpy, is tight and enjoyable, it doesn't mug up soundtracks.  A step under the DT770 pro's bass.
 
The ability to switch between positions is great, and it doesn't just add more bass response, but the entire soundstage is changed slightly.
 
And just to be clear, this set of cans was what I wanted the AKG550 to be when I bought them.  I'm happy.
5/5
 
Soundstage:
I left this as a seperate category because I feel it should be addressed that the soundstage of these cans is superb.  I remember when I had my DT770 pros, and compared them to other cans, and how impressive the soundstage was.  It was precise.  I'm just not a basshead.  Even so, I'm still impressed with the position 3-4 setting of the Custom Ones, and prefer listening to some of my tracks that way.  Now, these cans are quick.  I can't say precisely because I only have my ears as an instrument, and looking at a 500 Square Wave Response graph.  Now, a 500 Square Wave Response graph is used to measure the ability of headphones to keep all differing frequency components lined up in time.  The more capable a pair of headphones is in this regard, the more coherent and clear the signal will be.  Imagine hearing everything, quite literally.  With how clear the Custom Ones are, you can feel how complex a guitar riff is. The spacial positioning is astounding, regardless of what position you're listening to.  I've heard drums on position 1 wrap around my head from left ear to right even amidst guitar riffs and vocals.  For me, it's position 1, since I'm not a basshead.  I love position 1!
5/5
 
Isolation:
These are great.  And again, they can be made to be semi-open or open cans quite easily.  I can't speculate on the sound difference other than closed, but when I can I'll update this.  Ever wanted to watch someone's mouth moving and not hear a word they're saying while listening to music?  I can't even hear myself talking while music is playing at 70%.  Can just barely hear a finger snap right outside the earcup at 70% (and I can snap loud).  At 18dB of isolation, these cans are top of the line for the pricerange.  And the fit is awesome.  Regardless of your headsize.  I've tested with heads other than mine and everyone says they're snug, and sealed.
 
5/5
 
As far as drawbacks for the Custom Pro, they're slim to none.  FR for the Cans are 5-35,000, but judging from the FR graph for these, there's a significant drop off past 16,000, to the point where anything 16,000 to 20,000 is recessed, and anything past that is almost non-existant.  But in a way isn't that a good thing?  These cans focus on the meat of the music.  I've always hated high-pitched "audiophile" cans, but again that's my preference.  The Custom Ones to me are like a Porterhouse, but with the variable bass response, you can trim the fat off if you want to. 


Good review and I have a few questions.

 

I've heard Beyer compare the various bass settings to morphing between DT770, DT880, and DT990. Have you compared the COP to any of those? The reason I ask is kind of silly but I have a program on my Iphone that lets you download headphone profiles to make a perfectly complimentary EQ curve to make any headphone sound much better than it could without it. IE fixes defects in frequency response to flatten curve etc.

 

Anyway the company that makes it gives each headphone a star rating from 1 to 5 to rate how well the headphone can accomidate the EQ profile and how close it can get to perfect audio. The DT880, and DT990 were both 5 stars, but the COP was only 3.5 which makes me wonder if it's inferior to the other Beyerdynamics due to excessive coloration or a frequency response so far off reference that even EQ can't flatten it out.

post #129 of 241
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Originally Posted by Kodhifi View Post


Good review and I have a few questions.

 

I've heard Beyer compare the various bass settings to morphing between DT770, DT880, and DT990. Have you compared the COP to any of those? The reason I ask is kind of silly but I have a program on my Iphone that lets you download headphone profiles to make a perfectly complimentary EQ curve to make any headphone sound much better than it could without it. IE fixes defects in frequency response to flatten curve etc.

 

Anyway the company that makes it gives each headphone a star rating from 1 to 5 to rate how well the headphone can accomidate the EQ profile and how close it can get to perfect audio. The DT880, and DT990 were both 5 stars, but the COP was only 3.5 which makes me wonder if it's inferior to the other Beyerdynamics due to excessive coloration or a frequency response so far off reference that even EQ can't flatten it out.

 

The problem with those kind of EQ profiles is that every headphone is different. The star ratings they're giving them probably refer to how consistent that headphone model's frequency response is from one to the next and thus how effective the EQ profile is. They may have noticed a higher degree of variance among COPs which would make their averaged EQ profile less effective. The adjustable bass ports could be a problem for their app as well since they would have to have a different EQ profile for each setting and would need to know which setting you're using.


Edited by devhen - 2/20/13 at 4:11pm
post #130 of 241
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Originally Posted by devhen View Post

 

The problem with those kind of EQ profiles is that every headphone is different. The star ratings they're giving them probably refer to how consistent that headphone model's frequency response is from one to the next and thus how effective the EQ profile is. They may have noticed a higher degree of variance among COPs which would make their averaged EQ profile less effective. The adjustable bass ports could be a problem for their app as well since they would have to have a different EQ profile for each setting and would need to know which setting you're using.


They tell you which bass setting they calibrated to, and only did it for that one.

post #131 of 241
Well, a few weeks in now and I'm loving them! Stopped using EQ with them, started using neutron music player and ordered an iBasso D Zero to use with them and my Galaxy S3. Can't wait for it to be delivered..

Great, comfy phones that are really good fun to listen to. Really happy with my purchase.
post #132 of 241
how do these measure up to other portables like m80/100 or MDR 1r? Really interesting cans.
post #133 of 241

When I bought my COPs, I bit the bullet and bought my first DAC/AMP combo (FiiO E17) and have to say I can tell the difference.  Looking forward to what impressions you have with your new gear!

post #134 of 241

The M80 and COP's have a very different sound.  The M80's have a more even sound, whilst the mids on the COP's are slightly recessed, but the bass is much more powerful.  The sound from the COP's also feels a lot warmer.  The M80's are a bit louder, I would say that the sound detail is similar on both.  The COP's are not very portable, whilst the M80's are.   COP's have very good sound isolation and very little noise leakage, whilst the V80's leak like a sieve and let in lots of noise, including wind noise. 

Build quality is good with both headphones.  The pads on both headphones are generally comfortable, though I did start to get a little jaw ache with the COPs, though by stretching out the headphones I managed to sort out the problem.  More of a problems was the heat build up which I got from the COP's due to the pleather pads and closed over ear design.  I am changed the pads over to the DT770 velour pads and this has improved comfort and helped somewhat with the heat build up.

If you want a portable set of headphones for daily use, I am not sure I could recommend the COP's and mainly use the M80's but for home use I prefer the sound of the COP's.  I have heard some good things about the M100, though I haven't tried them, from the sounds of it they are bigger versions of the M80 with much more bass.

post #135 of 241

I haven't heard the M80's but I just picked up the CALs and have to say I am very impressed for the money and comfort.  They are very light in comparison and smaller for more portable use.

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