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post #31 of 38
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Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post

with MP3 or OGG? OGG is a totally different beast. I can hear the difference between 192 mp3 and lossless, but not OGG.

 

OGG is better then MP3. Although it's still differentiable between OGG and FLAC.  

post #32 of 38
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

On my system the one thing I consistently notice between 128 or 192 in comparison to lossless is that the lower bitrate files can't bring out the ambience of the track properly and it sounds more 2-D. 

That's not really a charicteristic of compression.

 

Have you tried an ABX comparison in foobar?

post #33 of 38

I am going to suggest a dt990 600 ohm, simply because people say that make things sound nice.

 

Here are some opinions.

 

Ah, i finally got to actually test real headphones. I even got to test the sennheiser hd 800, and i personally don't think it's worth the money. I could clearly hear a difference to those and my razer electra, but it was not huge. I tested alot of headphones, i also tested the sennheiser hd 700, and it was pretty okay. But what i really loved, that sounded absolutely FANTASTIC! was the Beyerdynamic DT990. They sounded perfect for everything, i could even hear noise i couldn't head before, i think my next headphones will be those. I can hear a crisp clear difference between those and my electra, i don't think i'll hear better headphones for a while. So for me, the sennheiser hd 800 is definitely not worth the price, at all. I mean it's great and all, but i don't think it's value for the money. I think i'll get the DT990 with a modmic.

 

I use this product for mostly games and movies (paired with a mixamp for dolby headphone) and they sound fantastic. Very wide sound stage, with present bass impact thats tight and controlled. The only gripe about the sound is the highs may be too harsh for the average listener. They smooth out after burn in, but are still quite present.

Headphones sounded very nice and are lightweight but the mids were too recessed for my liking and even though they were lightweight, I didn't like the fit; mainly with the ear cushions. They felt too narrow and were fairly large circumference(easily slid forward/rear quite a bit) but still comfortable. Strong, accurate bass and highs(which attribute to the recessed mids), great sound stage. Also sounded great on action movies.

Pros: * Amazing sound, as long as you have sufficient amplification * Very comfortable, even for long listening sessions * Amazingly deep and clear bass - hard to believe that sound can come from headphones Cons: * Can be used without a headphone amp but will not sound as good as could be. Probably won't have much bass kick or rumble * Can be revealing of flaws in player or source material (e.g. low bitrate MP3s or cheap CD players) * Needs to be broken-in before they sound 100% * Being open back, these do 'leak' sound a bit Overall: These are >very< nice headphones, if you have the right supporting equipment. The only place I enjoy listening to these anymore is at my computer, which has an Asus Xonar DX card and a homebuilt PIMETA amp. Using these with my iPhone or iPod, I can really hear the step down in quality, so I usually use earbuds instead when away from the PC. I also have a pair of sealed Sennheiser PC350s, which I quite like except that they are a little tight and get uncomfortable after long sessions. The PC350s seemed a little more bass-heavy at first (which I like), but now that the DT990s have broken-in a bit and I've swapped out the opamp in my PIMETA with a more bassy amp (replaced my AD823 with a Burr Brown OPA2107), the DT990s have plenty of kick. Again, just to warn the unsuspecting: being high impedance 'phones, these need a lot of voltage swing to sound their best, so I'd highly recommend using a headphone amp. If you don't have or want to use an amp, I'd recommend going with the 250 or 32 ohm versions instead. If you're using these with a PC, you may find that your on-board sound card doesn't cut it. I'd recommend a higher-end card such as the Asus Xonar series (The Essence STX is made for up to 600 ohm headphones and should be able to drive these without an external amp)

Beautiful sound. Very full, but detailed. I used to own a pair of DT 990 Pro (250 ohm)-- which were great, but seemed to lack any middle range. The 990 600 ohm are much more balanced. The bass is extraordinarily satisfying-- but not boomy like the Pros. My K 702s make me smile with some music-- but are unforgiving to bad recordings or low quality mp3s. What I love about the 990 600s is everything sounds great-- Shostakovich, Schubert, Peter Gabriel, Clinic, Underworld, Brad Mehldau, The Orb. Ne'er an equalizer adjustment to compensate for a lack. Lot of smiling. My new all-around headphones. Also-- a big surprise: they sound fantastic out of a cmoy and my iaudio X5 (bought at B&H 3 years ago). The only con-- I really miss the coiled cord of the Pros. Seems now I'm always detangling cable. My wife asked me yesterday if I was practicing my sailor's knot. Small price for the smiles.

Reviewed by David.M
Pros: Well constructed, Extremely comfortable, suplendous bass reponse system, Open, Airy, High end quality
Cons: Slightly recessed mid-range, doesn't make my breakfast.
Well...well...well..., what can i say about the legendary beyerdynamic)))) DT990/600; that i bought from B&H a few months ago?

How about... simply remarkable for the price/performance ratio.

The journey actually begins with my firstly acquired audiophile headphone(which was also a Beyerdynamic) but it was the variant DT880/250ohm model. I thought the 880's were superb,detailed, and crisp all-rounders,but my experience with them for the first 2 months(before purchasing the 990's shortly after) was that they were some-what lacking in the bass department, the musicality and the authoritative oomh seemed nowhere to be found.

The DT990 fix all that + give a much more in-depth realism feeling without any signs of being too bloated/over-aggressive.Granted, the mid-range on these headphones are not the best, they are still incredibly detailed, warm and inviting. Quite frankly, i think burn-in drastically opens up the mid range on these cans. Fishsk113(a well known head-fi member who also loves the 990's) has said that within 100 hours or so, the mid range becomes more prominent; and I agree 100%.. I have read many many people commenting on the fact that the 990's bass was just too over-whelming and ruined the music for them. It seems to me that they either a) had the inferior '250ohm' model'[which is known to have its errors] or..b) The amping/sourcing was inadequate. or...c) The bass quantity wasn't their cup of tea.

From my perspective, I feel the bass on the 990's is "perfect" to my ears. Yeah, it has the characterisitics of a wild Kodo Beast(bad warcraft joke :P) and can get a bit thick and muffled on bad recording/bass heavy tracks, but it's never over-emphasized in my opinion. Led Zeppelin has never sounded this awesome!. From the face melting mainstream guitar solos that will rock your socks, to the well balanced, low-end, soulful delicate sub bass sound spectrum of Classical Rock, the DT990's will never miss a beat as long as you stay true to your source.I remember going into discussions with driftingbunnies(another dt990 user who posts once in a while) he use to mention about the bass texture, quanity and quality of the Sennheiser HD650's. I recall him saying the Senn's had the quantity, but the beyer's had more refinement, better attack and a smoother rendering to it. I actually couldn't have said it better myself ! But i would love to try the 650 one day and do a full comparison of the two.

TheWuss has the soundstage & misc areas covered, so I don't really feel the need to get into it too much + I could give my fingers a break ^_^ But let me tell you guys, the 990 scale extremely well with gaming and movies. The open airy atmosphere will leave you breathless; some days you might feel like hovering on water with all the much needed instrument seperation and crisp clean tracking. FPS games are a plus for these cans. If you play big hits like Modern Warfare 2 or Battlefield Bad Company 2, the indepth surround sound is phenomenal. The 880's might be more precise and have better accuracy, but gaming on the 990's is a dream come true. Throw in a decent tube amp in the mix and be astounded by the weight, body and circular bass motion that these headphone's will deliver. Truly immersive experience !


Conclusion: What can i say about the Beyer DT990's? They are one of the best headphones i have ever owned in my entire life. But people who want a neutral/balanced presentation should look away, as these are more of a muscially engagning, fun, dynamic, rhythmically fast paced headphone whilst still retaining most of its timbre, clarity and over-all features that the younger DT880 brother possess. Honestly, It just can't get any better than the DT990's. Well.... it can. *hint hint* JVC DX1000 / Denon AH-D7000 *hint hint*, but why pay more when you can get something that hits the "sweet spot" and coasts 1/3 of the price? I'll be looking to upgrade my Little Dot Mark 3 amp to one of the Woo Audio models (preferably the wa6) in the near future, The thing i love about the Beyers is their hidden potential to sound incredibly eargasmic as the quality of the amp rises. Truly Terrific/Under-Appreciated headphone that will be in my stable for a very long time

More here with this link.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/199052/beye...ciation-thread

post #34 of 38
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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

That's not really a charicteristic of compression.

 

Have you tried an ABX comparison in foobar?

 

Yes, I have tried an ABX comparison...I also Hydrogen Audio from time to time. This is noticeable on my higher end system with my HE-500. Also have tested this on Funktion One speakers, and can always tell the difference if the track was mastered well and had those subtle details.   

post #35 of 38
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Yeah I have been streaming it at 320

post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Yes, I have tried an ABX comparison...I also Hydrogen Audio from time to time. This is noticeable on my higher end system with my HE-500. Also have tested this on Funktion One speakers, and can always tell the difference if the track was mastered well and had those subtle details.   

well more power to you then i suppose. i have consistently failed to tell the difference between 160k OGG, and even 128k OGG with some tracks. i consider myself to have pretty good hearing too.

post #37 of 38
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Originally Posted by fabio-fi View Post

 

Monster = beats. 

 

The beyer Custom one pro seems like the ideal headphone. 


If you mean to say that the Beats line are terrible products and thus the company that makes them, Monster, only make terrible products, then i have to disagree because the Turbine line of earphones are very nice. I don't think it's fair to brand Monster as a low quality brand just cause one of their product lines aren't that great.

post #38 of 38
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Originally Posted by blackmarket View Post


If you mean to say that the Beats line are terrible products and thus the company that makes them, Monster, only make terrible products, then i have to disagree because the Turbine line of earphones are very nice. I don't think it's fair to brand Monster as a low quality brand just cause one of their product lines aren't that great.

 

I agree. My roommate has both Beats and Copper Pro. After listening to his Beats and moving on to the IEM, I was expecting them to be bad as well. I was actually quite shocked at their performance in general. Sounded quite decent.

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