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post #16 of 33
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Wow... I just read this thread in reverse order thinking "cool a thread to support dubstep" only to get to the top to see it was started as a joke knocking it... LOL..
Anywho I was gunna sub anyway. I know little about dubstep artists. The only think I have in my library is skrillex. I like it a lot I have no idea if he is considered good, bad, old, or what but I like it.
Anyway... subscribed. I'd like to try some new artists maybe yall will learn me a thing ur two.

 

Ditto, the only dubstep artist that I have in my music collection is Skrillex. I like his sound but not sure how he is compared to other dubstep artists as I'm not really into that genre.

post #17 of 33

You won't find many Skrillex fans in the EDM thread, but we're not exactly elitists either. ;)

 

It makes me very sad the only Dubstep you guys know is Skrillex...

 

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Ditto, the only dubstep artist that I have in my music collection is Skrillex. I like his sound but not sure how he is compared to other dubstep artists as I'm not really into that genre.

post #18 of 33
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

You won't find many Skrillex fans in the EDM thread.....

Im curious. Why is that?

Please tell me he's not the vanilla ice of dubstep or something..... I really like the stuff i have of his a lot.


Btw. Thanx for the link. I subscribed. Looking forward to it
post #19 of 33

Ahaha. He kind of is. Most people have come to call him Complextro genre wise.

 

The reason people don't like him (at least in the EDM thread) is because his music has damn near no bass under 100hz. The Sub Bass is just not there. When you get stuff like the JLE Dub mix of Indigo Children when all it's bass is completely under 100hz (for the most part) it's hard to listen to something riddled with distorted mid bass.

 

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Im curious. Why is that?
Please tell me he's not the vanilla ice of dubstep or something..... I really like the stuff i have of his a lot.
Btw. Thanx for the link. I subscribed. Looking forward to it
post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Ahaha. He kind of is. Most people have come to call him Complextro genre wise.

The reason people don't like him (at least in the EDM thread) is because his music has damn near no bass under 100hz. The Sub Bass is just not there. When you get stuff like the JLE Dub mix of Indigo Children when all it's bass is completely under 100hz (for the most part) it's hard to listen to something riddled with distorted mid bass.

Im going to have to give that a listen then.

Does the mainstream influence dubstep popularity? For example I remember when i was a young man in austin texas. We were a small group and were similar to you -- allways on the lookout for new bands. We would sift through all the vinyl in that little record store on guadelupe blvd accross frome dobie mall (is that still there? If so whats the name of that store again?). We were into original hardcore punk and punk music. We used to cringe when Zach of Inside Out was starting to show up on MTV in his new band (rage against the machine). We absolutely refused to see greenday ever again after they "sold out" years later. It was weird seeing them in a small bar and now seeing them transform the youth into a bunch of "punk rockers" in the mainstream.

We had contempt for them and offspring etc because they ruined the "scene". All the really good bands that stayed underground none of these "punks" had ever heard of. Anyway.... Sorry for the long story but are there similarities or completely different?
post #21 of 33
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Originally Posted by Doc-holliday View Post

Im going to have to give that a listen then.
Does the mainstream influence dubstep popularity? For example I remember when i was a young man in austin texas. We were a small group and were similar to you -- allways on the lookout for new bands. We would sift through all the vinyl in that little record store on guadelupe blvd accross frome dobie mall (is that still there? If so whats the name of that store again?). We were into original hardcore punk and punk music. We used to cringe when Zach of Inside Out was starting to show up on MTV in his new band (rage against the machine). We absolutely refused to see greenday ever again after they "sold out" years later. It was weird seeing them in a small bar and now seeing them transform the youth into a bunch of "punk rockers" in the mainstream.
We had contempt for them and offspring etc because they ruined the "scene". All the really good bands that stayed underground none of these "punks" had ever heard of. Anyway.... Sorry for the long story but are there similarities or completely different?

Similar to an extent. Some people hate because it's mainstream, but I dislike it (for the most part) because of the reasons I stated above. It's just lacking so much on sub-bass that it's usually just no fun to listen to for me.

Skrillex is like Nirvana for me. I hate it but it's had a lot if influence on the music of their time.
post #22 of 33
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Originally Posted by Doc-holliday View Post


Im going to have to give that a listen then.
Does the mainstream influence dubstep popularity? For example I remember when i was a young man in austin texas. We were a small group and were similar to you -- allways on the lookout for new bands. We would sift through all the vinyl in that little record store on guadelupe blvd accross frome dobie mall (is that still there? If so whats the name of that store again?). We were into original hardcore punk and punk music. We used to cringe when Zach of Inside Out was starting to show up on MTV in his new band (rage against the machine). We absolutely refused to see greenday ever again after they "sold out" years later. It was weird seeing them in a small bar and now seeing them transform the youth into a bunch of "punk rockers" in the mainstream.
We had contempt for them and offspring etc because they ruined the "scene". All the really good bands that stayed underground none of these "punks" had ever heard of. Anyway.... Sorry for the long story but are there similarities or completely different?


"punks not dead it just deserves to die..." (brilliant song you just reminded me of)

 

anyway, id like to point out that i frequently post in the edm thread and i DO like skrillex, just not a whole lot. hes got a handful of tracks that i like, but not much more.

 

i do think the mainstream influences dubstep popularity, i do think skrillex gets a lot of hate for his mainstream popularity. i also think its alot to do with his juvenile pose and just the way he behaves....

 

dubstep in itself is divided into many little sub-genres. the people more into dubstep may not know to name these sub-genres, but they can tell a difference between one kind and the other. skrillex is the more mainstream one, the harsher, less complex, bouncey, kinda annoying one.

 

i dont think its just the lack of sub bass, i find most of his tracks lacking in general. when you listen to the genres origin like "skream", and you hear the "deeper" groups such as "truth" or "the others", and then you hear "flux pavilion" doing the exact same "kind" of dubstep that skrillex does, but with so much more style, and so much more... more! you kinda forget about skrillex and then eventually realize he wasnt actually that good to begin with... thats what happened with me at least.

 

still, he does have some good tracks. "slats slats slats", "make it bun dem" with damian marely, "with your friends" and one or two more still get some listening time.

post #23 of 33
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"punks not dead it just deserves to die..." (brilliant song you just reminded me of)

anyway, id like to point out that i frequently post in the edm thread and i DO like skrillex, just not a whole lot....

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Similar to an extent. Some people hate because it's mainstream, but I dislike it (for the most part) because of the reasons I stated above. It's just lacking so much on sub-bass that it's usually just no fun to listen to for me.
Skrillex is like Nirvana for me. I hate it but it's had a lot if influence on the music of their time.

Well before i go over to the edm thread and become "that guy" wearing the greenday tshirt by asking about similar bands to skrillex, maybe yall can give me a place to start. If i like skrillex (sorry but i love the doors live instrument manipulation and all that) who should i check out first?

Are the ones yall mentioned already a good choice? Ill prolly order a couple cd's today.

And morbid toaster. Is that record store still there on the drag? Is that dobie mall building even still there (accross the street) Near mlk and the drag.
post #24 of 33
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Well before i go over to the edm thread and become "that guy" wearing the greenday tshirt by asking about similar bands to skrillex, maybe yall can give me a place to start. If i like skrillex (sorry but i love the doors live instrument manipulation and all that) who should i check out first?


well i recommend skream to anyone asking about dubstep - sounds nothing like skrillex though. hes considered by many to be a kinda "father dubstep" although im sure there were people before him. hes a different legue to anyone else imho. heres the track that got me into dubstep:

 

as iv mentioned, flux pavilion does the same kind of dubstep as skrillex, but doesnt really have those doors instrument manipulation you mentioned. id definitely recommend him though. im sure morbid toaster can recommend some instrument manipulating dubstep groups for you, i cant really think of any off the top of my head.

post #25 of 33

Skream ('True' Dubstep)

Chasing Shadows (Heavy & Brutal)

Truth (Deep; Similar to Chasing Shadows)

Flux Pavilion (Closest to Skrillex you'll get recommended from me. Great, great stuff)

Burial (Chill / Downtempo stuff; An evolution of Garage. Dark & Brooding)

Soular Order (Future Garage; Similar to Burial but with more 'traditional' elements)

Blackmill (Soundscapey, big, happy Dubstep)

Seven Lions (Same vein as Blackmill for the most part)

Borgore (You'll either love it or hate it. It's a parody of what I consider 'mainstream' Dubstep. I love Borgore)

KOAN Sound (Glitchier than anything else here. One of my favorites along with the Garage stuff)

 

Just to start you out with a few there. Favorites are probably Soular Order, Burial, KOAN Sound, and Chasing Shadows.

 

Also, that Gold Dust remix is one of my least favorite Flux Pavilion songs. I'd try his 'Louder' remix (also by DJ Fresh), Daydreamer, and Normalize. His Louder remix is one of my all time favorite Dubstep songs.

 

DJ Fresh is hard to top. I think that's why I don't like the Gold Dust remix.

post #26 of 33
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Skream ('True' Dubstep)

Chasing Shadows (Heavy & Brutal)

Truth (Deep; Similar to Chasing Shadows)

Flux Pavilion (Closest to Skrillex you'll get recommended from me. Great, great stuff)

Burial (Chill / Downtempo stuff; An evolution of Garage. Dark & Brooding)

Soular Order (Future Garage; Similar to Burial but with more 'traditional' elements)

Blackmill (Soundscapey, big, happy Dubstep)

Seven Lions (Same vein as Blackmill for the most part)

Borgore (You'll either love it or hate it. It's a parody of what I consider 'mainstream' Dubstep. I love Borgore)

KOAN Sound (Glitchier than anything else here. One of my favorites along with the Garage stuff)

 

Just to start you out with a few there. Favorites are probably Soular Order, Burial, KOAN Sound, and Chasing Shadows.

 

Also, that Gold Dust remix is one of my least favorite Flux Pavilion songs. I'd try his 'Louder' remix (also by DJ Fresh), Daydreamer, and Normalize. His Louder remix is one of my all time favorite Dubstep songs.

 

DJ Fresh is hard to top. I think that's why I don't like the Gold Dust remix.


excellent recommendations, cant say i like borgore or koan sound, and id probably recommend other flux pavilion tracks (cracks, bad dj, rooftops, twilight), but im right there with the others. also, though im not a big fan, theres a group called "south central" which sound pretty similar to skrillex imo.

post #27 of 33
That gives me a lot to work with guys. Thanks a lot for taking the time. I liked that flux pavillion song out of the two enough to get me to check out more from him. I'll start with that short list to see if anything sparks my interest. Its good to have a starting point at least.

btw Morbid, I guess I will never get an answer to my question on the record store there.... it's ok I tried to look it up on maps and it looks like a thai resturant now.... many memories in that place... Seems all my old stomping grounds are gone. Liberty Lunch (saw many a show there) is a parking lot, and even the old Taco Bell we used to go to at 4 in the morning after shows is a burger king or something...... At least Emo's still exists. My buddy used to help run the place.

Anyway thanks again guys.
post #28 of 33
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That gives me a lot to work with guys. Thanks a lot for taking the time. I liked that flux pavillion song out of the two enough to get me to check out more from him. I'll start with that short list to see if anything sparks my interest. Its good to have a starting point at least.
btw Morbid, I guess I will never get an answer to my question on the record store there.... it's ok I tried to look it up on maps and it looks like a thai resturant now.... many memories in that place... Seems all my old stomping grounds are gone. Liberty Lunch (saw many a show there) is a parking lot, and even the old Taco Bell we used to go to at 4 in the morning after shows is a burger king or something...... At least Emo's still exists. My buddy used to help run the place.
Anyway thanks again guys.

Woops. Kept forgetting to answer. I don't think it's there anymore but we still have a lot of record stores down here. Waterloo and Cheapis are my favorites.

Emos is still here but Mobawk is the place for punk nowadays.
post #29 of 33
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Woops. Kept forgetting to answer. I don't think it's there anymore but we still have a lot of record stores down here. Waterloo and Cheapis are my favorites.
Emos is still here but Mobawk is the place for punk nowadays.


Well that's a shame on the record store. Ya waterloo was where we used to buy tickets for shows over on Lamar Blvd. It was around back then.

Ya Emos was never a punk/hardcore place just a variety. We didn't have a stable venue back in those days. We once put on a Rancid show in an abandoned building with no stage. Just them in the middle of a huge room with a PA.

Anyway thanks for the answer. I do miss the place. I'll have to come back some time.
post #30 of 33

I just played the dial up tone when Radiohead's Climbing Up the Walls started playing... and it was magical.

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