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Audiofly AF78 or similar $200 alternatives?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Anyone had a chance to test these earphones out and compare them to it's competitors in the $200 IEM market?

Really looking for some opinions on these earphones as they seem to be largely underappreciated (or rather never generated any buzz) on this forum
Thanks, any information is useful!

post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 

BUMP!
Nobody has this model? :(

post #3 of 13
oh a few people have it, just not many like it.
I had a listen to it again and on clip+ instead of cowon d2, but I can't find any redeeming features.
most independent reviews i've seen couldn't either. (the non 20 line ones in fashion magazines that look oddly suss)
post #4 of 13

A person I trust told me that they messed up the final tuning, whatever that means. 

It is young company, probably still in Beta stage, if you want similar product around that price there are non(with positive feedback). You might need to wait still vsonic GR08 is released and might need to pay more.

post #5 of 13
some people may like t-peos h-100 in the meantime. or not. (hybrid ba/dd, metal body, ok cable, a bit upper mids/treble happy, but great low end) and costs < $200 incl shipping (i think it's about $150 final price, but not sure)
Edited by svyr - 10/25/12 at 2:16am
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

A person I trust told me that they messed up the final tuning, whatever that means. 


It is young company, probably still in Beta stage

well, people speculate (incl me) they messed up the driver choice, xover design/chamber design, picked an annoying cable and body shape and market it to hipsters with strange 10 liner magazine reviews that are very highly rated but non descript biggrin.gif
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

Ah, that's slightly disappointing news

sort of hoping they be a competitor with $200 models

i've seen alot of praise heaped on them on headphone websites (but then again they could just be supporting a local product)

what is the vsonic gr08 supposed to be released? also, hoping that it's not designed similarly to the gr07, i just find the gr07 is slightly finicky to fit properly (I know alot of ppl disagree)

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by svyr View Post


well, people speculate (incl me) they messed up the driver choice, xover design/chamber design, picked an annoying cable and body shape and market it to hipsters with strange 10 liner magazine reviews that are very highly rated but non descript biggrin.gif

hopefully they get it right, I was happy to see an audio designed by Australian company, eventually I would benifit from it :D

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Ah, that's slightly disappointing news

sort of hoping they be a competitor with $200 models

i've seen alot of praise heaped on them on headphone websites (but then again they could just be supporting a local product)

what is the vsonic gr08 supposed to be released? also, hoping that it's not designed similarly to the gr07, i just find the gr07 is slightly finicky to fit properly (I know alot of ppl disagree)

The reason why I suggested gr08 is that it is the only speculated cheap hybrid that is based on company reputation is to do well. I know virtually zero hybrid IEM under 500 USD.

post #9 of 13
The 56 is excellent. I haven't heard that about the 78.

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post #10 of 13

Hey guys I'm selling my af78's which will be up on ebay tonight. I prefer the af56's with my music as the af78's just have too much clarity for me haha.

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I purchased a pair of Audiofly AF78's recently on sale from Best Buy Canada. I am using them with my FiiO X3, and have tried them on my daughters i-Pod touch 5G and my wife's Creative Zen. I had been using Hifiman RE-400's since August and I really did like them. They have virtually universally positive reviews.

 

I read a lot of glowing reviews on the AF78's and thought for the sale price they were worth a shot. I have to tell you that I have really fallen for the sound of these. When I switch back to my RE-400's now they sound congested, bass shy, lacking in both dynamics,and high frequency extension, and just generally dull and veiled sounding in comparison to the Audiofly IEM's.

 

I know the retail price of the AF78's is almost double that of the RE-400's which makes the comparison a little unfair perhaps, or does it? Consider this. The Hifiman RE-400 has received almost unanimous praise worldwide from the audio press and private users alike and have been referred to as giant killers that sound better than a lot of other IEM's that cost considerably more, including it's own four times more expensive brand-mate sibling the RE-600, so is it really that unfair to compare them to the AF78's directly? Also when you take into account that the sale price of the AF78's was less than what I paid for my RE-400's  the picture becomes much clearer.

 

Now I know  a lot of this comes down to personal preference, musical genre choices and the playback device being used and I am not saying the RE-400's are a bad set of IEM's, quite the contrary, but for me the AF78's are just more my preferred sound signature. They have a more spacious soundstage than the RE-400's, superior detail retrieval without sounding etched, better bass extension, with admittedly slightly less natural sounding bass than the 400's, far superior dynamic capabilities, which i find accounts for a large portion of what gives reproduced music that closer to live sound, less warmth overall, but without any artificial or added brightness and most importantly there is just a difficult to describe or quantify inherent rightness to the overall sound and presentation to the AF-78's. I find the midrange of the RE-400's to be slightly better overall, but i do not hear the crossover point of the AF78's as some have mentioned. I am not crazy about the fit or comfort and isolation in comparison to the RE-400's but i am willing to look past these issues for what I feel is genuinely superior sound quality. 

 

The RE-400's have been often called a neutral IEM, which is damning it with faint praise I really feel and it really seems that neutral sound has recently become a synonym for dull lifeless unexciting sound which I don't think has anything to do with accuracy. If this is truly the definition of what neutral sound is supposed to be then give me coloured sound any day. Upon further reflection it occurs to me now that the Hifiman RE-400's are a bit of a fence sitter. They really don't do anything extremely well and they really don't do anything really wrong. I know a lot of head-fiers would consider this a well balanced design, but i think it would more accurately be described as an uninspired design that is unwilling to really try to make a true statement in the marketplace. I know this will probably ruffle a lot of peoples feathers but it's how i see it. To add just a little more perspective, I also really like the highly controversial Cardas Ear Speakers but was not willing to spend that much.

 

The one positive of all of this is that considering the reputation of the RE-400's I shouldn't have any trouble selling them on the second hand market if i decide to part with them.

 

Flame away, but please keep it constructive, civilized, and mature.


Edited by good sound - 1/5/14 at 1:11pm
post #12 of 13

Thanks for your thoughts on the AF78. Sound aside, if you find the fit and isolation lacking, we'd love to hear your thoughts on the AF120… www.audiofly.com/headphones/af120-detail

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Audiofly Aus View Post
 

Thanks for your thoughts on the AF78. Sound aside, if you find the fit and isolation lacking, we'd love to hear your thoughts on the AF120… www.audiofly.com/headphones/af120-detail

And I would love to provide them to you as long as you are willing to provide the AF120's, gratis, or at a substantial discount.:normal_smile :

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