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Talk me out of JH16? About to pull the trigger...

post #1 of 24
10/23/12 at 12:49pm
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Perhaps you've seen my other threads, quick recap: Have had UE TF10 for 3-4 years, wanted something with more bass, but the same or better mids/highs.

 

Tried 5EB, mids/high completely inferior to TF10, realized that I don't want to sacrafice mids/highs for bass.  Thought about getting IE80... then just decided I'll do it once and be done... time to go custom.

 

UM Merlins were my first choice, upon further reviews I read that although they are a different type of bass, I fear they may be TOO unbalanced for my liking.

 

But honestly, there were two things that really shifted me from the UM Merlins to the JH16.

  1. Reviews said the UM Merlins bleed.  They are vented for the Dynamic Driver, and though it isn't bad, at high volumes people around you can hear it.  I travel... while on the plane I like to rock out... I don't want to be "that guy" who everyone around him can hear his music.  It pisses me off when others do it.
  2. If I'm going to do customs, do it once, then be done.  JH16 are the best... go big or go home.  (is this really a valid reason? I think so).

 

So, I'm posting this here because I'm going to the Audiologist next week for impressions, then sending payment and impressions off to JH.

 

Does anyone have a reason why I shouldn't buy the JH16 other than "they are over priced" or "I want them you jerk, i hate you" =P

 

My biggest flaw so far is the lack of a VI cable for my iPhone... the cable JH sells is FUGLY... the mic is huge... I'm going to try and modify my TF10vi cable and make it work.

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post #2 of 24
10/23/12 at 2:04pm

I'm thinking if you want triple fi 10 like go with the JH16, the Merlin has great bass, but the treble is laid back and imho not as prominent.  

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post #3 of 24
10/23/12 at 3:21pm

Too much bass for me but sounds right up your alley.

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post #4 of 24
10/23/12 at 3:50pm
The JH16 is several years old now and many find it harsh in the highs, the Heir Audio 8.A is truly excellent and smoother with truly great bass. You should strongly consider it. Look at my review and project86's plus others.

There are several new contenders, look at the Frogbeats C5, 1964 Ears V6 as interesting choices.
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post #5 of 24
10/23/12 at 4:04pm

I think the JH 10 x3 Pro sounds a little more neutral and just as good.  You can find a pretty good review here:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/triple-jh-comparison-five-ten-and-sixteen/

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post #6 of 24
10/23/12 at 6:47pm

I want them you jerk...

 

But not as much as I want the Heir 8.A

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post #7 of 24
10/24/12 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by NA Blur View Post

I think the JH 10 x3 Pro sounds a little more neutral and just as good.  You can find a pretty good review here:

 

http://www.headfonia.com/triple-jh-comparison-five-ten-and-sixteen/

 

 

Very well written review.  Thank you.  It just made me want them all the more!

 

 

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Originally Posted by atty101 View Post

I want them you jerk...

 

But not as much as I want the Heir 8.A

 

 

The reviews I've read don't seem as favoring as the JH16 reviews.  Perhaps I'm reading the wrong stuff.

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post #8 of 24
10/24/12 at 9:05am

There are other alternatives, but it seems like you're pretty dead set on getting the 16 --- just make sure you're getting their updated version with the "FreqPhase|Time Waveguide", which is supposed to align phase and time differences between the drivers for a more coherent response.

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post #9 of 24
10/24/12 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

There are other alternatives, but it seems like you're pretty dead set on getting the 16 --- just make sure you're getting their updated version with the "FreqPhase|Time Waveguide", which is supposed to align phase and time differences between the drivers for a more coherent response.

I will ask that. Thank you for the tip.
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post #10 of 24
10/25/12 at 7:22am
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The reviews I've read don't seem as favoring as the JH16 reviews.  Perhaps I'm reading the wrong stuff.

Yes, you're missing the criticism of the jh16 for being harsh and sibilant.

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post #11 of 24
10/25/12 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by Kunlun View Post

Yes, you're missing the criticism of the jh16 for being harsh and sibilant.

Really?  Not to my ears.  Quite the contrary.  I find they open up the top frequencies with a very pure, crystal clear and reliable (read consistent) sound (using a CLAS Solo > 3A > JH16).

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post #12 of 24
10/25/12 at 6:32pm
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Really?  Not to my ears.  Quite the contrary.  I find they open up the top frequencies with a very pure, crystal clear and reliable (read consistent) sound (using a CLAS Solo > 3A > JH16).


You may not hear them as harsh, but a lot of people have.

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post #13 of 24
10/29/12 at 10:29am

Are you going to listen to the JH XX unamped?

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post #14 of 24
10/29/12 at 11:42am
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Are you going to listen to the JH XX unamped?

 

At times, yes.  Other times no, they will be amped.  I'd say more often than not, unamped though.

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post #15 of 24
10/29/12 at 2:48pm
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You may not hear them as harsh, but a lot of people have.

I have the JH16 pros, not one ounce of sibilance to be found when listening to them. The sound has weight without sounding bloated and if you pair them with the pico slim, Twag elite replacement cables and twag micro lod you will be in aural heaven.

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