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post #796 of 1025
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It's happening now because comparing the HD600's bass to the HD800's is funny. 
...bordering on the ridiculous.
post #797 of 1025

HD600 fan boys don't know their limits. Haha. I think there is one prominent one who says its as good as the HE-500, it's just a side-grade, apparently after his extensive trial period.

 

What next? Is the SR009 going to be just a side grade to the HD600 too? Haha.

post #798 of 1025
HD-600 is a very fine HP and I enjoyed owning them. The closest in SQ to the HD-800, of the mid-priced I've heard, is the AKG 712Pro. (Let the rotten egg, and tomato tosses begin.)
Edited by Mambosenior - 1/14/14 at 7:02pm
post #799 of 1025
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HD-600 is a very fine HP and I enjoyed owning them. The closest in SQ to the HD-800, of the mid-priced I've heard, is the AKG 712Pro. (Let the rotten egg, and tomato tosses begin.)


I think that's a quite common observation from the past. A couple of years ago people were saying:

 

K701 = HD800

HD650 = LCD-2

HD600 = HE-500

 

As summit-fi equivalents. This was when the LCD-2/HE-500 were part of Summit-Fi.

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I think that's a quite common observation from the past. A couple of years ago people were saying:

 

K701 = HD800

HD650 = LCD-2

HD600 = HE-500

 

As summit-fi equivalents. This was when the LCD-2/HE-500 were part of Summit-Fi.

 

Now K712 = HD800

post #801 of 1025
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Now K712 = HD800

K712 is quite warmer than the HD800, the K/Q701 caracterizes it better.

post #802 of 1025
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Now K712 = HD800


Actually K812 >= HD800 depending on who you believe. People are saying it's more revealing and unforgiving. A review I read today even said the soundstage was wider than the HD800 which is a first. I'm waiting to hear how it cured someone's brain tumor next.

post #803 of 1025
IMO , Q701 sounds more similar to hd800 than k712.
post #804 of 1025
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Actually K812 >= HD800 depending on who you believe. People are saying it's more revealing and unforgiving. A review I read today even said the soundstage was wider than the HD800 which is a first. I'm waiting to hear how it cured someone's brain tumor next.
Lol. No hating. I love AKG stuffs. biggrin.gif
post #805 of 1025

Btw does anyone know how long after its release did it take the HD800 to reach its current benchmark standard?

post #806 of 1025
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K712 is quite warmer than the HD800, the K/Q701 caracterizes it better.

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Actually K812 >= HD800 depending on who you believe. People are saying it's more revealing and unforgiving. A review I read today even said the soundstage was wider than the HD800 which is a first. I'm waiting to hear how it cured someone's brain tumor next.

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IMO , Q701 sounds more similar to hd800 than k712.

 

K712 = HD800 is what people are saying.  IMO, the HD700 sound is more close to HD800 than ...


Edited by pdrm360 - 1/14/14 at 11:42pm
post #807 of 1025
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


I think that's a quite common observation from the past. A couple of years ago people were saying:

 

K701 = HD800

HD650 = LCD-2

HD600 = HE-500

 

As summit-fi equivalents. This was when the LCD-2/HE-500 were part of Summit-Fi.

 

Lol, they still are...

post #808 of 1025
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Lol, they still are...


Okay :veryevil:

post #809 of 1025

For me the HD600 are closer to the HD800 than the K/Q701. Both the Senn's sound unmistakeably 'Sennheiser' - Its all in the natural tonality and air. The AKG's imaging and soundstage are closer to the HD800's - yes, but in regards to sound signature they are very different imo. Thats why I own both :) 

 

I've stated a few times that the closest anyone can get to the hd800 on a budget is a well driven HD600. The AKG's sound like AKG's.. No other headphone is as dry and tight. 

 

Regarding the HE500 v's HD800, having owned both I'd say its all a matter of taste. The only thing that I would say objectively would be that the bass is tighter and clearer on the HD800. The soundstage and imaging imo is a matter of taste. Those who always claim that the HD800 is superior in this area are judging it on the 'wow' factor. Yes it is very impressive. But some simply prefer a more compact, closer image. Music preference has to be a major factor here too. 

 

Then there is always going to be the scaling argument. I can't comment on this as I use vintage equipment. Very good vintage amps, but I have no idea what the latest uber high end hp amps sound like with either of these hp's. I would say however, that my experience with planars in general is that they don't scale as high as full dynamics. Planars imprint a very good sound on most amps and don't really change as much as dynamics with 'different sounding' amps. Only different power specs.

 

The treble of the HE500 is still the best I've heard from any hp. With velours it was perfect for my preference. I've never had any problems with the HD800 treble but the hifiman is defo smoother- silky.. I prefer the mids of the HD800 though. The HE500 mids are extremely engaging and have that planar liquid goodness, but the bass does creep into the lower half. In a similar way as the 650's. This can be a preference for some. But not for orchestral music imo. I want to be able to hear the layers of cello, viola etc clearly. In fact I would state that the HE500 are not ideal for orchestral music. They can sound pleasant, but I would prefer to use them with smaller ensembles. The soundstage for me is too restricted. This is a planar trait however.

 

So for my personal preference it is the HD800 all the way. I love a large sound stage for a start. Match them with a warm quality amp and they are the nearest I've heard to good speakers from an hp. I've tried them with a lot of amps (double figures) but have settled on 1980's NAD. Haha, seriously! I've bought another 3 of these amps since I discovered the synergy. One for my main rig, one for my bedside, and one as a spare ;)  

 


Edited by LugBug1 - 1/15/14 at 1:07pm
post #810 of 1025

+1000 Lugbug1 :beerchug:... I was surprised when I compared my HD580 and my HD800 . These headphones are very close and share obviously common genes ... I would just complete the " the closest anyone can get to the hd800 on a budget is a well driven HD600" sentence : I think it's a good thing to keep a HD600 besides a HD800. with the two headphones it's more easy to know when the upfront gear is good enough for HD800. When it's the case, the HD600 become useless .

 

So I could say that a only a well driven HD800 can beat the HD600. :D 


Edited by Sorrodje - 1/15/14 at 1:08pm
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