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post #736 of 1025
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

What a riot!

 

I'll say on some of the top rigs I've heard for both headphones, they're neck and neck really.

 

Even out of a J2 the HE-6 doesn't have so much more quantitative bass than the HD800.

Neither is the HD800 so much more resolving. Pick and choose your subtleties.

 

The HE-500 doesn't even register as being on the same level.

Of course,  it's just too cheap to be on the same level.  :rolleyes:

post #737 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

Of course,  it's just too cheap to be on the same level.  :rolleyes:

That's just defensive BS. For a long while the MD were a fav of mine.

 

And if you read much earlier on in this thread. The HE-500 crack my top five, so please. 

post #738 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


lmao.  more experienced audiophiles.  So that's what it comes down to?  I prefer to have both HPs for their strengths.  I don't even want to consider myself an audiophile.  That's a title/name full of smoke, imagination and sometimes self-justification.

 

Nothing to do with price here, but experienced listeners with rigs that can truly run them, my comments stand and as I mentioned the objective data supports this. Can someone prefer the HE-500s? Sure they can, that was never in question. The HE-500s are fine headphones, but are not on par many top flight headphones. Are they better than say the T1s or anything from Ultrasone? Sure I suppose that argument can be made. They certainly can be subjectively better to someone (anything can). 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 1/11/14 at 1:20pm
post #739 of 1025
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

That's just defensive BS. For a long while the MD were a fav of mine.

 

And if you read much earlier on in this thread. The HE-500 crack my top five, so please. 


I've read this entire thread and listened to the HD800 extensively before purchase. have owned the HE500 for a while and still do.  What I said is not defensive BS.  At least, to me it's not.  I've seen pricing dictated thinking and evaluation in too many hobbies including this one.  If what you said about the HE500 not on the same level as HD800 is your belief, then it contradicts my thinking/hearing.  Let's just leave it as that. 

post #740 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


I've read this entire thread and listened to the HD800 extensively before purchase. have owned the HE500 for a while and still do.  What I said is not defensive BS.  At least, to me it's not.  I've seen pricing dictated thinking and evaluation in too many hobbies including this one.  If what you said about the HE500 not on the same level as HD800 is your belief, then it contradicts my thinking/hearing.  Let's just leave it as that. 

No, what you said is defensive BS. predicated by general assumptions that price would even be taken into account.

When many of us early on in this thread were discussing/ranking headphones according to our preferences.

 

Yes, while the HE-500 is in my top 5, while the T1 isn't, the HE-500 is still lacking behind the top 3 considerably.

 

If you disagree with my opinion, that's ok, don't use BS tactics to make me look like a high-price snob.

post #741 of 1025

To me, the HD800 and HE-500 are too different to compare, same as comparing a piano with a violin.

post #742 of 1025
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

No, what you said is defensive BS. predicated by general assumptions that price would even be taken into account.

When many of us early on in this thread were discussing/ranking headphones according to our preferences.

 

Yes, while the HE-500 is in my top 5, while the T1 isn't, the HE-500 is still lacking behind the top 3 considerably.

 

If you disagree with my opinion, that's ok, don't use BS tactics to make me look like a high-price snob.

 

I don't see anyone here extolling the virtues of Ultrasones due to their extremely high price. Regardless, I think this thread has run its course as the HE-500s have been discontinued.

post #743 of 1025

if I made you sound like a high price snob, my apology.  That wasn't my intention.

post #744 of 1025
Ok I can take the statement that bass slam has to do with the amount and the decay, and the slower decay of the HE-500 gives more perceived slam.
post #745 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

if I made you sound like a high price snob, my apology.  That wasn't my intention.

My only point was to me the HE-500 was behind many phones technically. However, earlier in this thread I even mentioned how either HE-500 or LCD-2 for that matter

could be preferred to any of the other top offerings.

post #746 of 1025
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

My only point was to me the HE-500 was behind many phones technically. However, earlier in this thread I even mentioned how either HE-500 or LCD-2 for that matter could be preferred to any of the other top offerings.

 

+1

post #747 of 1025
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

My only point was to me the HE-500 was behind many phones technically. However, earlier in this thread I even mentioned how either HE-500 or LCD-2 for that matter

could be preferred to any of the other top offerings.


If you said technically, I wouldn't have a problem with that statement at all cuz I know and personally believe that it's correct.

Just like you pointed out, to me, there's a lot more than just technicality in HPs that determine whether a person will like it or not.

post #748 of 1025
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


If you said technically, I wouldn't have a problem with that statement at all cuz I know and personally believe that it's correct.

Just like you pointed out, to me, there's a lot more than just technicality in HPs that determine whether a person will like it or not.

I did clarify in response to the prepman. Sometimes maybe threads can move to fast and we can gloss over/miss prior posts. 

post #749 of 1025
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

Ok I can take the statement that bass slam has to do with the amount and the decay, and the slower decay of the HE-500 gives more perceived slam.

 

I've never been fan of the HE-500’s bass, I even preferred the HE-400’s bass to HE-500’s.

post #750 of 1025
So, objectively I would say the HD800 is technically very close to the sr-009, but most say the stax is in a different league. I've never heard it and if I was just going via objective information I would say it is only slightly better. It just shows how very small nuances in measurements can amount to big subjective claims. It seems this is going on here to me. (I've never listened to the HE500 buy I've always had my eye on it) . Great banter though!
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