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post #676 of 1025
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I prefer Lucy. :evil:


My favorite girl would be Mirajane. After all, we share a common interest in headphones. :D

 


Edited by Sonido - 1/9/14 at 11:57pm
post #677 of 1025
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For special type of movies, Viagra or move to Oregon, the high state.

 

You'll figure it out when you try them. ;)

post #678 of 1025
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My favorite girl would be Mirajane. After all, we share a common interest in headphones. :D

 

I love Mirajane! She's super cute. Haha

I think my personal favorite has to be Erza though. All things considered.

post #679 of 1025

Let's start a new thread, Erza vs Mirajane.

 

post #680 of 1025
Speaking of Erza vs Mirajane in relation to the topic of this thread, I find Erza's Theme to be better sounding on the HE-500, and Mirajane's Theme better on the HD800.
post #681 of 1025
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Speaking of Erza vs Mirajane in relation to the topic of this thread, I find Erza's Theme to be better sounding on the HE-500, and Mirajane's Theme better on the HD800.
 

Now we have brought this discussion full circle and we're back "on topic" Haha. Good work Sonido!

post #682 of 1025

Sorry for the HE-500 owners (including me), the HE-560 is coming on March.  The HD800 vs HE-560 would be exciting.

post #683 of 1025
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Sorry for the HE-500 owners (including me), the HE-560 is coming on March.  The HD800 vs HE-560 would be exciting.


No need to feel sorry for us. Feel sorry for the HD800 owners, cuz we're all upgrading to the 560. Haha.

post #684 of 1025
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No need to feel sorry for us. Feel sorry for the HD800 owners, cuz we're all upgrading to the 560. Haha.

 

Yeah, I like this thought.

post #685 of 1025
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Another area I found the HE-500 to beat the HD800: watching movies. While the HD800 did have better soundstaging, the bass impact of the HE-500 really gave movies that much more realism. Plus comparing to surround sound of a home theater, even the soundstage of the HD800 can't hold a candle. I would say soundstage doesn't matter as much because of this. The bass impact of the HE-500 really does make movies theater quality though.

 

One other note: the HE-500 is heavier, but I've developed the neck muscles to sit through a movie with them now.

Really?

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=4061&graphID[]=3241&scale=30

 

Sorry, but I've always felt that the HD800's bass is very satisfying...but here's the rub...getting the upstream setup right is much harder than pretty much every dynamic headphone out there. (Note: I don't consider the HE-6s part of this conversation for obvious reasons). 

post #686 of 1025
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Really?

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=4061&graphID[]=3241&scale=30

 

Sorry, but I've always felt that the HD800's bass is very satisfying...but here's the rub...getting the upstream setup right is much harder than pretty much every dynamic headphone out there. (Note: I don't consider the HE-6s part of this conversation for obvious reasons). 

 

yeah, really.

 

graphs mean quite nothing...you don't know about many other "features"(i.e. impact, body...).

and above all, the hd800 seems much brighter from that graph....and U-shaped...then:

 

1.HE500 frequency graph in more even.

2.frequency balance depends on how bass/treble stand out....a peak in the upper-midrange would make the HD800 brighter, even if, in the graph, the bass curve is higher

3. stop using those graphs to validate your statements....it's like judging a headphone by his impedance and frequency response. thanks


Edited by Blasyrkh - 1/10/14 at 5:49pm
post #687 of 1025
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yeah, really.

 

graphs mean quite nothing...you don't know about many other "features"(i.e. impact, body...).

and above all, the hd800 seems much brighter from that graph....and U-shaped...then:

 

1.HE500 frequency graph in more even.

2.frequency balance depends on how bass/treble stand out....a peak in the upper-midrange would make the HD800 brighter, even if, in the graph, the bass curve is higher

3. stop using those graphs to validate your statements....it's like judging a headphone by his impedance and frequency response. thanks

Impact, body, what are these things you speak of?  :p  I was simply showing that the bass on both headphones was quite similar. ;)

 

Really the HD800s beat the HE-500s on these too as well. The only two advantages the HE-500s have are that they cost less and don't need a killer upfront rig to sound close to their best IMO. Maybe the HE-500s have a little more meat on their bones, but that can also be interpreted as not being as quick from a waterfall plot (which is also true).

 

Please read my signature...measurements mean so much more (and then I'd suggest you google who Richard Feynman was if you don't know already). If you don't understand why measurements can be important, then that's for you to work around...not mine. :rolleyes: And by the way, I'm also speaking from first hand experiences. 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 1/10/14 at 6:00pm
post #688 of 1025
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Impact, body, what are these things you speak of?  :p  I was simply showing that the bass on both headphones was quite similar. ;)

 

Really the HD800s beat the HE-500s on these too. The only two advantages the HE-500s have are that they cost less and don't need a killer upfront rig to sound close to their best IMO. 

 

Please read my signature...measurements mean so much more (and then I'd suggest you google who Richard Feynman was if you don't know already).  And by the way, I'm also speaking from first hand experiences. 


measurments are important....but do not tell you everything for sure.

I will repeat myself...if there is a peak in the upper midrange, you will OBVIOUSLY get a brighter presentation.

that means, if you do not know already, that  if you want more bass from HD800 crancking up the volume, you'll get much more treble too. I think it's obvious what does it mean

impact, body? I know you do not know about them...you are using an HD800 :P

post #689 of 1025
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 


measurments are important....but do not tell you everything for sure.

I will repeat myself...if there is a peak in the upper midrange, you will OBVIOUSLY get a brighter presentation.

that means, if you do not know already, that  if you want more bass from HD800 crancking up the volume, you'll get much more treble too. I think it's obvious what does it mean

impact, body? I know you do not know about them...you are using an HD800 :P

I agree with you here in bold.  :smile:

 

And might I ask what your experiences are with the HD800s and on what rigs? I don't feel I have to crank up the loudness to get as much bass as the HE-500s based on my experiences AND objective measurements (which was the purpose of my post originally). Can the HD800s sound bright on gear that isn't up to snuff or with bright recordings sure, but get the upstream taken care of and feed it great music and they'll scale and scale to newer heights.

post #690 of 1025
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I agree with you here in bold.  :smile:

 

And might I ask what your experiences are with the HD800s and on what rigs? I don't feel I have to crank up the loudness to get as much bass as the HE-500s based on my experiences AND objective measurements (which was the purpose of my post originally). Can the HD800s sound bright on gear that isn't up to snuff or with bright recordings sure, but get the upstream taken care of and feed it great music and they'll scale and scale to newer heights.

 

I own a Benchmark Dac1 + Yaoin 300b ....but I have listened them with better rigs.

I think they can scale high, but that only concerns quality, not the frequency balance....they will always be brighter than he500 with a neutral amp

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