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post #661 of 991

LMAO :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post


I thought it more odd of him talking about dynamic (volume) range of metal. I guess I don't listen to the kinds of metal that have soft and subtle parts. I'm tired of arguing when it's unlikely any two person have heard the same headphones through the exact same chain, and then there's the whole subjective side of things, not to mention mental bias.
Example of one of my favorites:



It's not just the main focus, but the dynamics of the background going up and down that give life to the music. I'm listening to this currently on my speaker rig which also lacks dynamic contrast and it's fairly boring. I refuse to spend a fortune on speaker stuff though, $5k is enough before having to worry about room problems.
post #663 of 991
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That said person likes to stick himself in things he has no direct experience with and claiming his opinion as fact and knows no bounds to achieve his goal.
At this point I can't be bothered to post about anything I don't have experience with. If I do, I will say so in the post. I do have experience with HD800 and HE500, and regarding Gary's thread, several of the DACs he said were indistinguishable.
post #664 of 991
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post
 

Another area I found the HE-500 to beat the HD800: watching movies. While the HD800 did have better soundstaging, the bass impact of the HE-500 really gave movies that much more realism. Plus comparing to surround sound of a home theater, even the soundstage of the HD800 can't hold a candle. I would say soundstage doesn't matter as much because of this. The bass impact of the HE-500 really does make movies theater quality though.

 

One other note: the HE-500 is heavier, but I've developed the neck muscles to sit through a movie with them now.

 

For watching movies, Philips Fidelio X1.

post #665 of 991

^ Fair enough. Like I said I've never really listened to metal that had much dynamic range. Also I should state I'm not a metalhead by any means. Know a couple songs here and there.

post #666 of 991
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

For watching movies, Philips Fidelio X1.
For special type of movies, Viagra or move to Oregon, the high state.
post #667 of 991
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

^ Fair enough. Like I said I've never really listened to metal that had much dynamic range. Also I should state I'm not a metalhead by any means. Know a couple songs here and there.
your avatar is misleading then. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


Example of one of my favorites:



It's not just the main focus, but the dynamics of the background going up and down that give life to the music. I'm listening to this currently on my speaker rig which also lacks dynamic contrast and it's fairly boring. I refuse to spend a fortune on speaker stuff though, $5k is enough before having to worry about room problems.

 

WOW, this is truly awesome with the T1.  

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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

Never said I had a home theater setup. For those that do more power to you. Also, I'm watching past midnight in an apartment on my laptop. Never said the HE-500 was ideal for watching movies, just better than HD800 at it.
Since you have no speaker setup, I find it odd that you would make a comment about soundstage not being important because speaker setups do soundstage better, as if that is a justification for disqualifying the HD800 before considering the bass strength of the HE-500 (I also disagree with vs HD800). Would a speaker setup with a subwoofer not be better than the marginal bass from the HE-500 (certainly can't duplicate the whole body vibration)? Following the logic of the soundstage, that means the HE-500 isn't very good for movies either, right?
post #670 of 991
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


At this point I can't be bothered to post about anything I don't have experience with. If I do, I will say so in the post. I do have experience with HD800 and HE500, and regarding Gary's thread, several of the DACs he said were indistinguishable.


So does this mean you will take you my offer to debate 100 > 5 > 1? Certainly you have experience with the Arabic numeral system?

 

Ah couldn't resist posting this one. :D

post #671 of 991
^ As my boys often say "daddy, epic fail" biggrin.gif
post #672 of 991
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


Since you have no speaker setup, I find it odd that you would make a comment about soundstage not being important because speaker setups do soundstage better, as if that is a justification for disqualifying the HD800 before considering the bass strength of the HE-500 (I also disagree with vs HD800). Would a speaker setup with a subwoofer not be better than the marginal bass from the HE-500 (certainly can't duplicate the whole body vibration)? Following the logic of the soundstage, that means the HE-500 isn't very good for movies either, right?


I've been to the movie theater before though. All I'm saying is that headphones can't come close to that. Yeah the HE-500 doesn't give the body feel of the bass either, but the bass sound wise it does a lot better than HD800, that overall to my ears subjectively, the HE-500 as a whole comes closer to the theater effect than the HD800 as a whole. That doesn't mean the HE-500 is close to what you can experience in a theater though.

 

Now that I have parleyed your topic on theaters vs headphones for movies, even though my original statement was a sole comparison between the HD800 and HE-500 for movies, with an implicit understanding that neither could match a real theater, would you so kindly return the honor on my topic on numbers?

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No
post #674 of 991
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


your avatar is misleading then. biggrin.gif


I don't remember Laxus being a metal guy. Now Gajeel...

 

Speaking of Fairy Tail, I do enjoy the soundtrack, and a lot of the songs are metal instrumentals. I personally prefer the HE-500 to the HD800 when listening to those songs. The bass impact plays a big role, and the metal songs don't really have a large dynamic range. Now some of the non-metal songs on that soundtrack do, and the HD800 sounds better.

post #675 of 991

I prefer Lucy. :evil:

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