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post #526 of 991
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

That's what I'm talking about the T1. 

 

ok, can't comment about T1...never heard...

it was just to underline one of the things the HE500 is better at than the HD800

post #527 of 991

Thin midrange out of HD800 ? You cannot be serious :eek:

And drums kicks and bass guitars are very good as well. Maybe not in combination with heavy metal but jazz, instrumental, blues and normal rock/pop.

post #528 of 991
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 

 

ok, can't comment about T1...never heard...

it was just to underline one of the things the HE500 is better at than the HD800

 

I personally prefer the LCD2 to HE-500 for these genres, if I want to choose an orthodynamic.

post #529 of 991
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

I personally prefer the LCD2 to HE-500 for these genres, if I want to choose an orthodynamic.


but we are slightly offtopic :P

 

we are talking about he500 and hd800!

post #530 of 991
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 


but we are slightly offtopic :P

 

we are talking about he500 and hd800!

 

OK, I never use my HD800 for rock music, but in overall the HD800 is the best headphone I've ever had. 


Edited by pdrm360 - 1/3/14 at 12:36pm
post #531 of 991
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 

 

it's not only about bass....midrange is important too...

 

boosted bass doesn't mean more impact or weigth to the sound, but only more bass.

 

hd800's "thin" midrange can't handle distorted guitars sound like coming from a 12" speaker amp....even if it had more bass.

I bowed out from this thread but this was too interesting not to say something (plus it's not about HD800 vs HE500 :D)

 

Thin mid range from HD800?  Wow.  Please define or give me an example of thick mid range from other HPs.

post #532 of 991
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 

Thin midrange out of HD800 ? You cannot be serious :eek:

And drums kicks and bass guitars are very good as well. Maybe not in combination with heavy metal but jazz, instrumental, blues and normal rock/pop.

 

yes I am. but i'm not saying it is not good,

 

however good or enjoyable doesn't mean best....

 

even the HE500 is not the best, I only think that amped instruments are handled better with HE500...there's much more balance between weight, transparency and punch

post #533 of 991
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

I bowed out from this thread but this was too interesting not to say something (plus it's not about HD800 vs HE500 :D)

 

Thin mid range from HD800?  Wow.  Please define or give me an example of thick mid range from other HPs.

 

HD650, Denon D7000, RS1, HE500...should I go on? :rolleyes:

post #534 of 991
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 

 

HD650, Denon D7000, RS1, HE500...should I go on? :rolleyes:

 

You forgot the LCD2. ;)

post #535 of 991
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

You forgot the LCD2. ;)


sorry, I listed only what I've heard!

post #536 of 991
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Originally Posted by Blasyrkh View Post
 

 

HD650, Denon D7000, RS1, HE500...should I go on? :rolleyes:


lol, the only one on your list that I haven't listened to is the RS1, no their mid is not thicker than HD800's.  Even my jergpad HE500 driven by a speaker amp doesn't have thicker mid than HD800.  I don't think the term "thick/thin" is correct for what you might be describing here. 

More lush, less details, more forgiving, less forward  = yes.  Thicker = no.  IMO anyway.

post #537 of 991
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


lol, the only one on your list that I haven't listened to is the RS1, no their mid is not thicker than HD800's.  Even my jergpad HE500 driven by a speaker amp doesn't have thicker mid than HD800.  I don't think the term "thick/thin" is correct for what you might be describing here. 

More lush, less details, more forgiving, less forward  = yes.  Thicker = no.  IMO anyway.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary

post #538 of 991
To be honest even I found the mids, especially female vocals, upper mids to be bad on the HD800 the first time I heard it and even when I run it through a different chain now. I can see thin to be a word to describe it, but a better word would be unfocused. The wide soundstaging causes this imo, as it stretches out the voice unnaturally. I've since fixed this by adding the Quickie to my chain, and the vocals and mids are very lush now. The HD800 is very chain dependent.
post #539 of 991
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


lol, the only one on your list that I haven't listened to is the RS1, no their mid is not thicker than HD800's.  Even my jergpad HE500 driven by a speaker amp doesn't have thicker mid than HD800.  I don't think the term "thick/thin" is correct for what you might be describing here. 

More lush, less details, more forgiving, less forward  = yes.  Thicker = no.  IMO anyway.

 

"thick" doesn't mean less details or more forgiving.

in addition, be careful if someone puts a word between quotes......that's in fact "thin" not thin.

lush may be a good word though

post #540 of 991
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post

To be honest even I found the mids, especially female vocals, upper mids to be bad on the HD800 the first time I heard it and even when I run it through a different chain now. I can see thin to be a word to describe it, but a better word would be unfocused. The wide soundstaging causes this imo, as it stretches out the voice unnaturally. I've since fixed this by adding the Quickie to my chain, and the vocals and mids are very lush now. The HD800 is very chain dependent.

undoubtly!

 

in fact i wasn't able to enjoy it strait from the DAC1...much better with the Yaoin

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