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I've had my HD800s for about a week and have paired them with all my Schiit. I've found very little difference from amp to amp. The H800s sound great on all of them. I have a Schiit Mjolnir  and Cavalli Liquid Carbon on order to try the HD800s balanced, but I doubt I'll hear much of a difference there either.

 

As always YMMV.:L3000: 

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Very little Differences in A/B direct testing can become  Nirvana or inferno after weeks/month. IME long time listenings are more revealing.  Just my experience. 

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Don't misunderstand, I really liked the HD800. It clearly is the better phone.  If I was wealthier, I'd have kept them in a heartbeat.  They just didn't sound $800 or whatever better than my HE500 at this time in my system.  I may go WA22 & sometime in the future try out the HD800 again.

 

The law of dimension returns may be at play in my system to my ears/budget between the HE-500 & HD800.   

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Very little Differences in A/B direct testing can become  Nirvana or inferno after weeks/month. IME long time listenings are more revealing.  Just my experience. 

This is my credo for evaluating new equipment.

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Very little Differences in A/B direct testing can become  Nirvana or inferno after weeks/month. IME long time listenings are more revealing.  Just my experience. 

I feel that I'm in tune with my senses and can tell what I'm listening to, Should I need a a long time to convince myself otherwise, then something could be wrong with the human.

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I hear the same equipment sound so drastically different at different times, I don't trust long term impressions as much as a/b testing. Although I DO feel that you can find out the true capability of a phone only after spending at least a couple weeks with it to truly become familiar with it. After I become very familiar with it I trust a/b comparisons because all variables (including my brain and ears) are all equal. so I guesse I'm saying long term evaluations are best and essential to truly understand a headphone, but in comparisons a/b is best if you have spent sufficient time with each phone to truly know and identify what you are hearing.
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I hear the same equipment sound so drastically different at different times, I don't trust long term impressions as much as a/b testing. Although I DO feel that you can find out the true capability of a phone only after spending at least a couple weeks with it to truly become familiar with it. After I become very familiar with it I trust a/b comparisons because all variables (including my brain and ears) are all equal. so I guesse I'm saying long term evaluations are best and essential to truly understand a headphone, but in comparisons a/b is best if you have spent sufficient time with each phone.

But Master Po says be one with your senses. If he only knew that Grasshopper ended up hanging in a closet in Bangkok trying to be one with his senses. I avoid closets.


Edited by StanD - 4/19/15 at 3:23pm
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I don't think the HD-800 is better than the HE-500 by 800 either, and honestly I think to my ears the HE-500 is better suited for my tastes, I felt that it was smoother with a more natural tonality and had deeper and more textured bass. Although the HD800 had superior resolution, treble extension and was more articulate with better soundstage.

It really depends on what you are looking for.

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I´m undecided between this two too...
Like the HD 650 so i´m used to the senns house sound.

But i like euphonic sound too, which the he500 delivers i guess.

Listen mostly to electronic music, but other genres too.

Classic and Jazz is not my thing.

But the senn hd800 is special HP though, and you can find it with good prices used.

They told on the forum to go with the lcd 2 to.

Dont know what to choose from, because i have no way to test those especial HPs nearby my place.

Hope somebody can help.
Thanks.

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I´m undecided between this two too...
Like the HD 650 so i´m used to the senns house sound.

But i like euphonic sound too, which the he500 delivers i guess.

Listen mostly to electronic music, but other genres too.

Classic and Jazz is not my thing.

But the senn hd800 is special HP though, and you can find it with good prices used.

They told on the forum to go with the lcd 2 to.

Dont know what to choose from, because i have no way to test those especial HPs nearby my place.

Hope somebody can help.
Thanks.

if i were you, i would take all recommendations between the HD800 vs HE-500 with a huge grain of salt. it really all boils down to personal preference picking between the hd800 vs he500. they are both excellent headphones, but they excel in different areas. people will just recommend the one they own.

 

for EDM, I think the HD650 is fine. I think the HE-400i for EDM is my favorite pick in this type of price bracket over the he-500 and hd650 for a little extra sense of 'speed' but overall all those headphones probably are more side-grades or flavor differences rather than really large upgrades. if going above that price point, I would say the LCD-X is the best EDM headphone for my tastes but its weight, price point, and unique Audeze coloration compared to the other reference-orientation high-end flagship options should be things that you will need to consider carefully. really requires a demo to make any accurate purchasing decision. I would recommend holding off on any major expensive purchases until after you can demo or at least purchase from somewhere with a very friendly return policy as the HD650 is already a quite capable pair of headphones.

 

I think you can happily stick with the HD650. The HD800's greatest strength is its sound stage and imaging (imo), which will not really make a difference in most EDM recordings. For EDM, I think a linear but impactful bass and a good sense of speed are the technical sonic attributes that will be most noticeable/enjoyable for that genre. Sound signature preferences will always vary.

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