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I have been using the MKIII with an older solid state Aune DAC/amp as a DAC and a FIIO X3 as a DAC with good results.  The X3 is a bit smoother but I don't want to hassle with unhooking everything all the time so I was looking for a more permanent desktop solution.  The T1 was an interesting prospect but there is a possibility of too much coloration as you mentioned although there might be a good synergy using a brighter tube in the T1 and mellower tubes in the MK III.  One might never know until it is tried....

It is being tried....

 

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So, to the people who have upgraded from the T1, what DACs have you went with? How do they compare to the T1? 

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So, to the people who have upgraded from the T1, what DACs have you went with? How do they compare to the T1? 
Mojo and Bifrost Multibit are both worlds better without leaping into the thousands. Far bigger and better sound stage in every respect, better imaging, better extension at both ends, cleaner attack and decay, more focused imaging. T1 sounds very blurry, closed-in and low-fi, in comparison.
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Mojo and Bifrost Multibit are both worlds better without leaping into the thousands. Far bigger and better sound stage in every respect, better imaging, better extension at both ends, cleaner attack and decay, more focused imaging. T1 sounds very blurry, closed-in and low-fi, in comparison.

Thanks for that. I'll consider these options when I'm ready to upgrade the DAC section of my audio chain. For now, I'm looking to get a Project Polaris as an Amp to replace the built in amp of the T1, later I'll upgrade the DAC. 

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I replaced my T1 with an Audio-GD NFB-15.32. The NFB has a far more powerful amp which is nice for my harder to drive phones, but I'm not liking the DAC section of it as much as the tube buffered T1.
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So, to the people who have upgraded from the T1, what DACs have you went with? How do they compare to the T1? 
Funny, I upgraded my home rig to the MB Gungnir, but my away from home was the T1 until just a month or two ago. I'm using the Geek Out v2 DAC/amp with HD-650's and it sounds very good.

I turned on the T1 just yesterday as someone was asking for tube recommendations and I wanted to hear that sweet Miniwatt sound. Jesus, it sounded muddy, very closed in, unresolving... I had let it warm up for about an hour, but I could only take three songs before going back to the GOv2.

I wonder if the tube needs more time to come back to life, but at this point, I just can't enjoy the T1 much anymore.

GOv2 is extremely good with a balanced connection feeding the HD-650's. The Multibit Gungnir and Yggdrasil are stunning DACs, but in a whole other realm of price range. (They are worth every penny, IMO).

I would also say the GOv2 is a hell of a lot better than the T1. I love tubes, and I find the class A amp to really bring a musical sound, paired with noticeably good filtering and Sabre implementation without harsh treble.
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I replaced my T1 with an Audio-GD NFB-15.32. The NFB has a far more powerful amp which is nice for my harder to drive phones, but I'm not liking the DAC section of it as much as the tube buffered T1.

Good to know. I've heard good things about Audio-GD products paired with the DT880's, I was actually considering getting one before buying the T1.

 

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Funny, I upgraded my home rig to the MB Gungnir, but my away from home was the T1 until just a month or two ago. I'm using the Geek Out v2 DAC/amp with HD-650's and it sounds very good.

I turned on the T1 just yesterday as someone was asking for tube recommendations and I wanted to hear that sweet Miniwatt sound. Jesus, it sounded muddy, very closed in, unresolving... I had let it warm up for about an hour, but I could only take three songs before going back to the GOv2.

I wonder if the tube needs more time to come back to life, but at this point, I just can't enjoy the T1 much anymore.

GOv2 is extremely good with a balanced connection feeding the HD-650's. The Multibit Gungnir and Yggdrasil are stunning DACs, but in a whole other realm of price range. (They are worth every penny, IMO).

I would also say the GOv2 is a hell of a lot better than the T1. I love tubes, and I find the class A amp to really bring a musical sound, paired with noticeably good filtering and Sabre implementation without harsh treble.

Thanks for that. To be honest, I'm having somewhat of a similar feeling towards my T1 now, despite not having owned superior gear. The T1 has been with me for so long that I can't help but wonder what upgrading would sound like? And strangely it has lost some of its magic. I don't know if my tube is dying out, but it just doesn't impress me as much as it used to. 

 

I'm reading some some reviews and impressions on the GOv2 and it sounds really promising. How would you describe the Amp section of the GOv2? Is it like the T1 where its a great DAC that happens to have a mediocre amp built-in? Is the amp good enough for the 650's?


Edited by xkonfuzed - 2/27/16 at 4:50am
post #7778 of 7868
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I'm reading some some reviews and impressions on the GOv2 and it sounds really promising. How would you describe the Amp section of the GOv2? Is it like the T1 where its a great DAC that happens to have a mediocre amp built-in? Is the amp good enough for the 650's?

Nothing like the T1's amp... if you feed using the balanced section on the amp to feed the HD-650's, it drives them exceptionally well. Plenty of power; noticeable improvement in dynamics and also soundstaging. Bass fills in a bit, although they still lack sub bass (which is inherent to their frequency response). Mids have very nice tonality and body, as well the treble tuning matches the 650's very nicely. I've always had a preference for Class A amplification, and there really is something special about the GOv2. 

 

Comparing it to the MB Gungnir feeding the Zana Deux- the MB DAC unveils another layer of micro-detail that results in just a bit more clarity, as well as a more natural sounding treble which I believe is a big difference going Delta Sigma to R-2R or Multibit. The MB Gungnir also has a touch more ultimate control; bass is very tight, and mids are further refined in comparison to the GOv2. I will say that I would have no problem at all selling my MB Gungnir and Zana Deux and living with the Geek Out v2 and 650's, if it came down to it.

 

You absolutely require the balanced setup with the GOv2 though... so you need the 3.5mm TRRS connection. I just made my own from a stock HD-650 cable. HD-650's -> Male 4 pin XLR and then Female 4 pin XLR -> Male 3.5mm TRRS.

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Hello Guys , New T1 SE 24BIT DSD TUBE USB DAC released  now , please check informaiton here :

 

http://en.auneaudio.com/index.php?s=Home/Article/detail/id/124.html

 

We will have a Worldwide review tour for this products soon !

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Hello Guys , New T1 SE 24BIT DSD TUBE USB DAC released  now , please check informaiton here :

http://en.auneaudio.com/index.php?s=Home/Article/detail/id/124.html

We will have a Worldwide review tour for this products soon !
Awesome!
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Hey guys, i have an option of a T1 or an X1S for the same price. If i dont plan on playing DSD's which should sound better?

 

Cheers

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The X1S that I auditioned in a stereo shop has ground noise, and the shop owner confirms to me that it happens a lot. A review I read online also confirms this.

 

But generally speaking, a solid state DAC like the X1S will be colder and more analytical, while a tube amp/dac will sound more analog-ish and musical. So mostly it's a matter of taste. You can't find too much microdetails on something like the T1, but again the tube-sound can be very addictive for some people. Personally I'm all for tube sound.

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Originally Posted by AuneAudio View Post
 

Hello Guys , New T1 SE 24BIT DSD TUBE USB DAC released  now , please check informaiton here :

 

http://en.auneaudio.com/index.php?s=Home/Article/detail/id/124.html

 

We will have a Worldwide review tour for this products soon !


How can I participate in this tour?

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I didn't find the X1S cold at all. IMO, it has a slightly warm, smooth signature. Since it has a Sabre chipset, some people have found its treble a bit bright, however this may depend on which cans you're driving with it.

I didn't personally find it bright with the HD-650's. I found it sounded smooth, but lacked ultimate details. I also found the amp to be underwhelming. I preferred the B1's sound, as for as tonal weight and body were concerned.

The X1S is different than the T1... I know a couple people who are quite taken with the X1S, mostly because of how they describe it as "clear and so smooth". I don't disagree with their comments, however I found the DAC to lack texture and detail. I also found the amp to be underpowered, which led to a lack of dynamics.

As far as a comparison with the T1, I think the strength of Aunes offerings are their unique presentations and pricing. The T1 fits this in that you get an opportunity to roll different tubes to EQ the sound.

I would compare the O2/ODAC combo to the X1S, as I think this is more the target audience for the X1S.
Edited by mikoss - 3/4/16 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by AuneAudio View Post

Hello Guys , New T1 SE 24BIT DSD TUBE USB DAC released  now , please check informaiton here :

http://en.auneaudio.com/index.php?s=Home/Article/detail/id/124.html

We will have a Worldwide review tour for this products soon !

Changes look to be an XMOS chip for usb, and a DSD1793 chip as the DAC.

Questions:
Does it fully support 16/44 up to 24/192?
Does it also support 88.2kHz sampling?
Does the line-in go through the tube buffer? (Or is it the same as the other T1 models, where the line in just goes through the SS amp?)

Seems this would be decent value if it is priced around $225 USD.

I also find USB on the go support to be fairly silly... You do need to plug the DAC into a power supply after all. There is nothing wrong with USB OTG, but it's hardly a portable solution.
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