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post #5311 of 8042
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Originally Posted by lwrs10 View Post

I am glad to see some take my advice and do the capacitor upgrade! At first some people were hesitant, but it seems those people are very happy with the results.


On a side note I found a few old Tektronix oscopes full of Telefunken ECC88/6DJ8 painted top tubes, which means they were "selected" for testing well above normal production tubes. So far I am enjoying them.
My Sylvania 5BK7A is still running fine. Maybe the one you had was defective? It's been running since late Feb/March. smily_headphones1.gif
post #5312 of 8042

Finally someone else has seen the light.

 

I have bought most recommended variants of the ECC88 and agreed with reviewers which are the better sounding valves.

 

Based on an earlier reviewer on the forum who was first to point out the ECC85 I saw this one and bought it.

 

ECC85 TELEFUNKEN 6AQ8 6L12 DIAMOND 27 Valve Tube Röhre  £19.99

 

Boy I was blown away, best ever.

 

I'm onto something here, I thought so I bought this.

 

New old stock Mullard ECC85 6AQ8 double triode valve for £16

 

I've had in the Aune for about three weeks working through my music and I still had me in tears in the early hours of this morning.

 

Best valve by far, I'm not going to bother with Ecc88's any more.

 

With my headphones (modded Grado sr325i) it's unbelievably real.

 

I love the midband, Diana Krall sounds so natural, double bass has finer detail in the timber. Detail is up a notch across the range.

 

It sounds like there was an imperceptible distortion before with all the Ecc88's which is just not there on the Ecc85's. So when the vocalist increases the volume it stays 

natural.

 

I was hoping nobody else would mention it so I could gradually just buy up all the Ecc85's while there cheap, now there going to go up in price. Damn. :wink_face:

 

Still, for once all the good ones seem to be over here in Europe so there is still hope.

 

PS I'm talking all variants of the Ecc88, I have most.

post #5313 of 8042
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Originally Posted by audioisemotion View Post
 

Finally someone else has seen the light.

 

I have bought most recommended variants of the ECC88 and agreed with reviewers which are the better sounding valves.

 

Based on an earlier reviewer on the forum who was first to point out the ECC85 I saw this one and bought it.

 

ECC85 TELEFUNKEN 6AQ8 6L12 DIAMOND 27 Valve Tube Röhre  £19.99

 

Boy I was blown away, best ever.

 

I'm onto something here, I thought so I bought this.

 

New old stock Mullard ECC85 6AQ8 double triode valve for £16

 

I've had in the Aune for about three weeks working through my music and I still had me in tears in the early hours of this morning.

 

Best valve by far, I'm not going to bother with Ecc88's any more.

 

With my headphones (modded Grado sr325i) it's unbelievably real.

 

I love the midband, Diana Krall sounds so natural, double bass has finer detail in the timber. Detail is up a notch across the range.

 

It sounds like there was an imperceptible distortion before with all the Ecc88's which is just not there on the Ecc85's. So when the vocalist increases the volume it stays 

natural.

 

I was hoping nobody else would mention it so I could gradually just buy up all the Ecc85's while there cheap, now there going to go up in price. Damn. :wink_face:

 

Still, for once all the good ones seem to be over here in Europe so there is still hope.

 

PS I'm talking all variants of the Ecc88, I have most.

 

not many ecc85 and i have the grado sr60. so this is a VERY good news. the fact that grado can be paired with this and sounds good.

 

so... i hv another question, is there a difference between buying ecc85 that is from GE, and yours, the one from mullard, and some other ecc85, from westinghouse for example.

 

i ask that because not many ebay sellers ship to south east asia :)

post #5314 of 8042
Each manufacturer seem to have a house sound so each will sound different depending on the maker. Some are V-shaped (Sylvania, Tung Sol) some are more mid range focused (Amperex), some neutral/flat/balanced(telefunken), and some are just overall warm(Mullard).

E: Take with a grain of salt, my experience is my own and I've own multiple tubes from the listed manus and they all seem to fall that way. I'm sure there will be tubes that are totally opposite so always do your research. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by MrEleventy - 5/30/14 at 1:38pm
post #5315 of 8042
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

Each manufacturer seem to have a house sound so each will sound different depending on the maker. Some are V-shaped (Sylvania, Tung Sol) some are more mid range focused (Amperex), some neutral/flat/balanced(telefunken), and some are just overall warm(Mullard).

E: Take with a grain of salt, my experience is my own and I've own multiple tubes from the listed manus and they all seem to fall that way. I'm sure there will be tubes that are totally opposite so always do your research. smily_headphones1.gif

 

woww... thank you for the explanation it really helps.

 

too bad shipping to south east asia cost ~$20 excl. import tax at ~$10 flat, on top of the $25~35 tubes price, and the t1 cost $180-ish. and my budget is only $160 initially.

i was really reluctant to buy fiio e17 and was opting to bite the aune t1 (for only $20 diff.). and then get the ecc85 6aq8 or the 6gm8 depends on further research from reading this thread. :D

 

do you think it's a good idea to get the t1 instead of the fiio e17 and just bite the price differences? and no, i dont hv a lot of money :D

 

oh my hp are shure 940 and grado sr60....

post #5316 of 8042
What's the difference between GE 6AQ8/ECC88's made in Holland vs other countries?
post #5317 of 8042

I only have the two ECC85's so I can't compare GE etc...yet.

 

Here in the UK it's relatively easy and cheap to get the European made tubes, where as the GE are rare and postage is high from the USA + duties.

 

Both the ECC85's are better than my previous favorite an E188CC Philips Miniwat SQ for £62 and that's no easy thing to do.

 

The Mullard is made in Holland in 1979 /|9h1, Herleen, dimple disk getter.

 

So Philips of same spec , year and plant are going to sound as good.

post #5318 of 8042
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Originally Posted by rovopio View Post

woww... thank you for the explanation it really helps.

too bad shipping to south east asia cost ~$20 excl. import tax at ~$10 flat, on top of the $25~35 tubes price, and the t1 cost $180-ish. and my budget is only $160 initially.
i was really reluctant to buy fiio e17 and was opting to bite the aune t1 (for only $20 diff.). and then get the ecc85 6aq8 or the 6gm8 depends on further research from reading this thread. biggrin.gif

do you think it's a good idea to get the t1 instead of the fiio e17 and just bite the price differences? and no, i dont hv a lot of money biggrin.gif

oh my hp are shure 940 and grado sr60....
It would depend on your need.

E17
  • +Can be used as an EQ'able amp,
  • +Multiple dac uses (usb/optical/coaxial)
  • +Great amp
  • +Portable
  • = Decent dac

Aune T1
  • +Better DAC
  • +"EQable" DAC (Tube rolling changes dac sig)
  • - Ok amp
post #5319 of 8042
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


It would depend on your need.

E17
  • +Can be used as an EQ'able amp,
  • +Multiple dac uses (usb/optical/coaxial)
  • +Great amp
  • +Portable
  • = Decent dac

Aune T1
  • +Better DAC
  • +"EQable" DAC (Tube rolling changes dac sig)
  • - Ok amp

 

a lot of it is going to be used at home... im fine with direct sound with my grado for a long time, so going out i dont mind direct at all.

my dell laptop output is very bad so i need a dac.

 

when i read abt fiio in general and fiio e17, many are describing it as dark. is it true in your experience...?

im new to audio world and it's terminology (though i've read the describing sound link here). i've had the grado for the longest time and i'm still fine with it, i just feel like its time for an upgrade and getting a closed back phone.

 

does dark means more bass and less sparkling treble?

i've read what bright and dark means on the describing sound glossary link. but the definition of bright for example there is "Harmonics are strong relative to fundamentals.", since i hv no music background that sentence hardly means anything to me.

 

but due to my exp. with grado sr60 and the review abt it, i know i like bright headphone. and i tried vmoda m100 where ppl said its a dark sounding headphone, and i dont like the sound. so if i were to guess i dont like recessed treble. and that leads to my reluctance to buy fiio e17 (which is the only thing available here in my sub ~$150 budget). plus my experience when owning a fiio e07k for two weeks and hardly feel any difference with the dac / amp function in 2012 or 2011 (though at that time, i used macbook and ipod so, i guess the dac function was somewhat moot...? and the amp of the fiio e07k, i instantly didn't like it at all back then. i think other than loudness nothing changed. well it something changed in the sound but i sort of not liking it. which is why i sold it right after 2 weeks)

 

to be fair, idk anything about dac/amp back then, i just got upsold by a pc store so yeah... that's 1 more reason im reluctant to pull the trigger on the fiio.

 

tl;dr im going to use this at home..... my guesstimate is $180 plus $50 for the tubes will be ~$240. fiio e17 is $155 last i checked. schiit modi/magni combo since it isnt sold locally will be ~$300 to my door.

 

does schiit magni / modi better than aune t1 or is that just comparing apple / oranges?

im really sold with the "laser beam" comment by rwpritchett, i like my music when i can hear the smoke in the bar, hence the shure 940...

 

also... from reading ebay some seller write "tested for gas and short leak". im going to put this in my room and i have ocd. is gas something i need to worry about? or is it completely safe?

 

will the gas gets me (more) sick or smthn like carbon monoxide gas, because i dont want that :D


Edited by rovopio - 5/31/14 at 12:42am
post #5320 of 8042
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Originally Posted by rovopio View Post
 

 

a lot of it is going to be used at home... im fine with direct sound with my grado for a long time, so going out i dont mind direct at all.

my dell laptop output is very bad so i need a dac.

 

when i read abt fiio in general and fiio e17, many are describing it as dark. is it true in your experience...?

im new to audio world and it's terminology (though i've read the describing sound link here). i've had the grado for the longest time and i'm still fine with it, i just feel like its time for an upgrade and getting a closed back phone.

 

does dark means more bass and less sparkling treble?

i've read what bright and dark means on the describing sound glossary link. but the definition of bright for example there is "Harmonics are strong relative to fundamentals.", since i hv no music background that sentence hardly means anything to me.

 

but due to my exp. with grado sr60 and the review abt it, i know i like bright headphone. and i tried vmoda m100 where ppl said its a dark sounding headphone, and i dont like the sound. so if i were to guess i dont like recessed treble. and that leads to my reluctance to buy fiio e17 (which is the only thing available here in my sub ~$150 budget). plus my experience when owning a fiio e07k for two weeks and hardly feel any difference with the dac / amp function in 2012 or 2011 (though at that time, i used macbook and ipod so, i guess the dac function was somewhat moot...? and the amp of the fiio e07k, i instantly didn't like it at all back then. i think other than loudness nothing changed. well it something changed in the sound but i sort of not liking it. which is why i sold it right after 2 weeks)

 

to be fair, idk anything about dac/amp back then, i just got upsold by a pc store so yeah... that's 1 more reason im reluctant to pull the trigger on the fiio.

 

tl;dr im going to use this at home..... my guesstimate is $180 plus $50 for the tubes will be ~$240. fiio e17 is $155 last i checked. schiit modi/magni combo since it isnt sold locally will be ~$300 to my door.

 

does schiit magni / modi better than aune t1 or is that just comparing apple / oranges?

im really sold with the "laser beam" comment by rwpritchett, i like my music when i can hear the smoke in the bar, hence the shure 940...

 

also... from reading ebay some seller write "tested for gas and short leak". im going to put this in my room and i have ocd. is gas something i need to worry about? or is it completely safe?

 

will the gas gets me (more) sick or smthn like carbon monoxide gas, because i dont want that :D

I have the an E17 and the T1, if you like bright I would say go for the T1. Also since you didn't like the E07K I can pretty much guarantee you won't like the E17, the sound signature would probably sound the same as the E07K for you.

Another thing to consider is that you can always find a tube to suit your sound preference with the T1, but if you don't like the E17 then you're stuck with that, or face paying the to ship it back for refund.

 

A question to the other people reading this thread, I bought a Holland GE ECC85 tube a few months ago and it has been pretty damn good but it's recently developed a distortion on the mids and lows, does this mean the tube has reached the end of its life?

I've been switching between a 6922EH and Vokshod Rocket in the meantime while waiting for a Mullard ECC85 to arrive.

post #5321 of 8042
My tube binge continues. Found a reputable seller on the bay who had a surplus of Amperex bugle boy logo tubes from the early 60s. Wanted 24 bucks a piece. The logos weren't mint so they were going for a discount.

Was also bidding on a siemens e88cc but that got a bit too expensive.

Man this is addicting. Can't wait to try some of these out.
post #5322 of 8042
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioisemotion View Post
 

Finally someone else has seen the light.

 

I have bought most recommended variants of the ECC88 and agreed with reviewers which are the better sounding valves.

 

Based on an earlier reviewer on the forum who was first to point out the ECC85 I saw this one and bought it.

 

ECC85 TELEFUNKEN 6AQ8 6L12 DIAMOND 27 Valve Tube Röhre  £19.99

 

Boy I was blown away, best ever.

 

I'm onto something here, I thought so I bought this.

 

New old stock Mullard ECC85 6AQ8 double triode valve for £16

 

I've had in the Aune for about three weeks working through my music and I still had me in tears in the early hours of this morning.

 

Best valve by far, I'm not going to bother with Ecc88's any more.

 

With my headphones (modded Grado sr325i) it's unbelievably real.

 

I love the midband, Diana Krall sounds so natural, double bass has finer detail in the timber. Detail is up a notch across the range.

 

It sounds like there was an imperceptible distortion before with all the Ecc88's which is just not there on the Ecc85's. So when the vocalist increases the volume it stays 

natural.

 

I was hoping nobody else would mention it so I could gradually just buy up all the Ecc85's while there cheap, now there going to go up in price. Damn. :wink_face:

 

Still, for once all the good ones seem to be over here in Europe so there is still hope.

 

PS I'm talking all variants of the Ecc88, I have most.


where can i buy these?

post #5323 of 8042
@rovopio+1 to what zoney said. Fiio is a warmer fuller signature, It has similarities to the vmodas that you've tried. The t1 is more like the grados.

@zoneykidI don't think it's the tube going bad, if it's bad, usually it's not just sectional but rather the whole spectrum is affected. Try cleaning the pins and reseating the tube.
post #5324 of 8042

Ok, i have my aune t1 and it works very nice with my dt 880 250 ohm edition :)

 

But can i get bettery soundstage and more quality and resolution bass by exchange my electro-harmonix 6922eh tube?

 

What tube i should buy? i have 40$ - is it possible?

 

This set sounds amazing, but fiio x5 has better resolutione, more details. Can i get this by exchange tube?

post #5325 of 8042
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Originally Posted by truly194 View Post
 

Ok, i have my aune t1 and it works very nice with my dt 880 250 ohm edition :)

 

But can i get bettery soundstage and more quality and resolution bass by exchange my electro-harmonix 6922eh tube?

 

What tube i should buy? i have 40$ - is it possible?

 

This set sounds amazing, but fiio x5 has better resolutione, more details. Can i get this by exchange tube?

This the first tube I bought and it is great. There are better tubes of course but along with them comes higher price, and the gold lion is only 40 cents over your budget.

It is a good place to start till you read more about tubes that work with your A1.

 

Good Luck!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Genalex-Gold-Lion-6922-Gold-Pin-tube-36-40-each-E88CC-/310792543321?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item485caddc59

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