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Thanks for the links. Glad you like those 700s.

post #857 of 6255
Hey T can you on me your price on the anniversaries? Thank you
post #858 of 6255
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

Any new purchases or comparisons.... anyone?

 

My brief impressions @ rockgrotto:

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Briefly about my NOS Mazda PCC189 ( www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0882.htm ) - it`s the first tube for me that can cope with every genre of music. For my taste it`s littlebit better with rock/metal/jazz but sounds very well with atmospheric electronic music, dubstep etc. too. Imo it`s better than Mullard ECC88 because it has soundstage just between 6922EH and 6N23P (reflector), it`s littlebit pulled back towards my neck so there`s more air & space. Highs are more sparkly and not so flat as Mullard`s and thus create more "colour" to sound. Vocals are clean & intimate. Bass is thick, deep and flowing but has good kick in it (reminds me 6922EH bass). Compared to my amperex single leg dimple disc, soundstage is littlebit wider and pulled back like I said before. Overall sound is warmer and more "melted" together. Those last things are why amperex is littlebit better performer with rock/metal/jazz etc. for me. But I really like this Mazda PCC189, it`s certainly a keeper. Unfortunately it`s also quite rare tube like my amperex. At first I thought it`s same as Mullard white old style logo PCC189 but Mullard has grey vertical center plate. Pitty that my Mullard PCC189 is bad and can`t compare it.

Edited by CoiL - 2/19/13 at 1:31am
post #859 of 6255
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

Where are you going to buy from? Most resellers already ship them with upgrade 6922EH tube. What`s the price with stock tube 6n11?

Maybe we can recommend some better place to order from? Give us link of your purchase place.

 

For 20€ I personally would not buy it. Instead I would take stock version and buy Tungsram PCC88 tube from ebay (they are cheap, with same soundstage and littlebit more tight/punchy bass at lower volumes). 

Hey, I can get mine from here:
http://www.smalltao.com/product/15366563007/AUNE%20high-end%20version%20of%20the%20T1%2024BIT%20TUBE%20the%20DAC%20fever%20tube%20-%20sound%20card%20-%20decoder%20-%20amplifier%20-%20amp

 

The same seller has the standard version too.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

 

Some people like 6922EH and I consider it a nice backup tube, but my suggestion is to go for something better. If you don't have too much experience with tubes then it's kind of hard to know what to get. EH is wide and clear sounding tube, but for my taste the imaging is not the best. Somehow I don't find the vocals to fit nicely in the mix. Therefore I would only use it for electronic and ambient music. The sound stage is kind of bumerang shaped... goes very wide but doesn't feel as balanced forward wise. There are lots of people, however, who think otherwise and consider this as a great tube. 6N23p rocket is more intimate, lusher and has more bass, but the soundstage is somewhat cramped. I find rocket to go especially well with gritty blues and blues rock. You get this sweet house of blues kind of presentation. Imaging is good and you get nice instrumental balance and separation, but like I said the sound stage is more narrow and forward centered. The rocket is not for everybody and therefore I can't unconditionally recommend it for being used as the main tube. You should get it just because of the cheap price and good bang-for-the-buck value. I have ordered Genalex gold lion and Mullard shield logo and will post more impressions/comparisons after I get those tubes. You need to start the tube rolling from somewhere and after that it's kind of hit and miss until you find the best tube for your system and your tastes. I know I'm still looking for the right tube. I wouldn't mind finding a tube that has rocket logo signature with extended soundstage.

 

Maybe you should buy that T1 of toschek's. You get nice starter collection of tubes on top of the amp. I bet the price is also good.

 

Any new purchases or comparisons.... anyone?

 

Thank you for this. It sounds like the 6N23p is a very good tube to compliment my fidelio x1. The 6922EH would make the X1 too much, waaay to much. It already sounds like how you describe that tube. I think i'd get the standard version and get a tube off ebay somewhere. 

This is where I will buy the standard version: http://www.smalltao.com/product/17094328358/The%20AUNE%20Standard%20T1%2024BIT%20TUBE%20the%20DAC%20tubes%20fever%20-%20sound%20card%20-%20decoder%20-%20tube%20amp%20-%20amp

It's 115 euro's shipped, seems like a nice price!

 

I'm not interested in toschek's amp since it's the silver version. Not really my taste :)

 

I'm a bit of a nub and can't seem to find the tube you mention here. I don't know what the rocket logo should look like anyway and in what price class I should look.

Could you have a look for me? http://www.ebay.nl/sch/i.html?LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=6N23p&_sc=1&_sop=15

post #860 of 6255
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This is where I will buy the standard version: http://www.smalltao.com/product/17094328358/The%20AUNE%20Standard%20T1%2024BIT%20TUBE%20the%20DAC%20tubes%20fever%20-%20sound%20card%20-%20decoder%20-%20tube%20amp%20-%20amp

It's 115 euro's shipped, seems like a nice price!

Yeah, but what about custom taxes in NL? It comes from Suzhou (Jiangsu).

 

I ordered mine from UK and paid 169€ for upgrade version (free post) but didn`t have to mess with custom tax ;) Fast door to door shipping also.

This is the UK eBay seller i got it from: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUNE-T1-24bit-96kHz-Tube-Amplifier-USB-DAC-6922-Upgraded-Headphone-Amp-/251164443176?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers&hash=item3a7a914228&_uhb=1


Edited by CoiL - 2/19/13 at 2:48am
post #861 of 6255
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Originally Posted by HolyCheese View Post

I'm a bit of a nub and can't seem to find the tube you mention here. I don't know what the rocket logo should look like anyway and in what price class I should look.

Could you have a look for me? http://www.ebay.nl/sch/i.html?LH_PrefLoc=2&_nkw=6N23p&_sc=1&_sop=15

 

I got 2x rockets for $8 (+ $10 for shipping). The seller I got them from is, however, out of rockets atm (http://myworld.ebay.com/polivoks-shop?_trksid=p2047675.l2559). The tube looks like this (has rocket logo with text 6H23P):

 

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This seems pretty similar: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/2x-6N23P-E88CC-6DJ8-Tubes-NOS-198x-VOSKHOD-/321070434800?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4ac14a09f0

 

If you aren't in a hurry you could try lurking in ebay and wait for the best deals. I have to empasize that, even though rocket sounds very nice, its an entry level tube. If you want to go straight for the high level and more expensive tubes you should ask advice from somebody like toschek or coil who has been doing more rolling. I don't know how rocket will go with X1, but with K702 65th anniversary it goes nicely. Rocket has warm intimate signature, but the soundstage is not the widest and the bass is not the best I've heard. It's not perfect tube but for $10 a must buy and good starting point for every roller. If you are interested for the 6922EH I can sell you mine for affordable price :D

 

E: I have to second Coil. You should avoid taxes. I bought my T1 from that same seller (kidult510). Nice seller and very fast delivery.


Edited by Salvatore - 2/19/13 at 3:10am
post #862 of 6255
Hmm okay, I'll look around, so far I never got troubles with customs when ordering from China.

But if they do tax me they probably add 40 euro plus handling fee. frown.gif

Thank you guys for your help!
post #863 of 6255
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

 

My brief impressions @ rockgrotto:

 

Briefly about my NOS Mazda PCC189 ( www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0882.htm ) - it`s the first tube for me that can cope with every genre of music. For my taste it`s littlebit better with rock/metal/jazz but sounds very well with atmospheric electronic music, dubstep etc. too. Imo it`s better than Mullard ECC88 because it has soundstage just between 6922EH and 6N23P (reflector), it`s littlebit pulled back towards my neck so there`s more air & space. Highs are more sparkly and not so flat as Mullard`s and thus create more "colour" to sound. Vocals are clean & intimate. Bass is thick, deep and flowing but has good kick in it (reminds me 6922EH bass). Compared to my amperex single leg dimple disc, soundstage is littlebit wider and pulled back like I said before. Overall sound is warmer and more "melted" together. Those last things are why amperex is littlebit better performer with rock/metal/jazz etc. for me. But I really like this Mazda PCC189, it`s certainly a keeper. Unfortunately it`s also quite rare tube like my amperex. At first I thought it`s same as Mullard white old style logo PCC189 but Mullard has grey vertical center plate. Pitty that my Mullard PCC189 is bad and can`t compare it.

Did more comparing with 6922EH and what I can say is that Mazda PCC189 has definitely better bass - tighter, more depth, more kick, more controlled and goes very deep. Highs are more sparkly, accurate and more in focus . Vertical soundstage feels same. Now, the bad part of this tube is tiny lack of mids. Acoustic guitar and female vocals suffer from it. Because of that I think Mullard ECC88 is littlebit better for rock/metal/jazz. But because of Mazda PCC189 larger soundstage and better bass - it`s better allarounder with different genres. With some alternative rock I still prefer Mazda PCC189 to Mullard ECC88.

 

e:

 

Anyone willing to try these? -> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120939077278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Should be russian made and look like 6N23P.


Edited by CoiL - 2/19/13 at 3:46am
post #864 of 6255

I've been browsing through Lyr tube rolling thread as toschek suggested and stumbled across this link: http://www.audioasylum.com/scripts/d.pl?audio/faq/joes-tubes.html#6DJ8

 

old post but seems like a good read for all of us T1 rollers.

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Forgive the complete ignorance, but given so many manufacturing countries for these valves/tubes how come I've not heard of anything coming out of Japan? Or is it just something not worth mentioning? 

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Yeah, I know what you mean. I also searched for some Japan/China made tubes and found these: 

http://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=1697

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320978527234?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

Matsus h i t a, Raytheon, National are the keywords for Japan tubes. Some Mazda labeled tubes might also be Japan made.


Edited by CoiL - 2/19/13 at 8:33am
post #867 of 6255
We kinda destroyed the Japanese tube industry and by the time they were recovered they focused on the transistor
post #868 of 6255
Hey guys I just figured out something,
I was experiencing some hum or noise when nothing playing, but it wasn't all the time, so I swapped my tubes to be sure it isn't their fault, and actually, it isn't !
No matter wich tubes I ve put in, the noise was still there, so it must have been my environment, or the amp section.
I tried several things such such as turning off all the electrical devices near to it, and it happens that my aune is sitting very close to my old 20 LCD screen, which was on all day long. It isn't a led one so it draws some current lol, and emits quite a bit of electromagnetic field, so I just discharged it by touching it bare hands and miracle all the hum/noise is gone :-)
All my tubes are dead silent now, so just to say,these little valves are sensitive to such things, that we could easily forget...
BTW just loving my rtc e188cc, even if it is used, it is a really great tube, listening to apocalyptica right now, and it feels like I m just in the middle rocking with them :-)
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Hmmm... got to test this with my Mazda PCC189 (only tube that has audible tiny hum when nothing isn`t playing and knob is at max), my Aune T1 sits just under LCD.

post #870 of 6255

BTW, folks, how to I remove the acrilic protection without breaking it?  I'm about to receive the first tube to roll. :-)

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