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post #811 of 5961
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

Tele vs. amperex is imo the matter of taste. Amperex are generally warmer sounding and teles are more neutral ones. I also remeber toschek say that white logo sounds better, so how is it at the end? Pseudo-effect? 

 

Like I told earlier, I don`t have rockets but reflector should be quite same. For me, compared to amperex, it is somewhat "muddy", actually not the bass but the whole sound is like listening through somekind "blanket" and its narrow and very foward sounding. With amperex intimacy stays but everything gets so clear & detail, added depth, air & room response, wider soundstage in every direction and you can hear every breath singer takes & emotion he/she puts in the voice. But it all depends also about music style and personal taste.

 

Totally pseudo effect, I think I had some problems upstream in my signal that made me think it was the tube.   I moved all my equipment around recently and tried it again and I think the green is exactly 100% the same as the white.

post #812 of 5961
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

If you're happy with the rocket, there's no reason to get one of these other tubes.   They do have better soundstage/imaging, and tighter dynamics but the premium is really steep.   The rocket's soundstage feels a little cramped after going back to it from one of these others, but that is kind of it's charm too; I don't think you'd get that intimacy with it if the soundstage was bigger.

 

Both of the JAN tubes I have, white and green, sound exactly the same.  I thought they were different at first, but I think I was getting some interference somewhere. I don't think the label color really matters at all except if you have OCD.

 

I like rocket but for longer run I'd definitely want something more open. Maybe after "analytical" E17 I just enjoy having this intimate warm sounding tube. EH isn't the best tube for me, but I'm confident the right tube is somewhere out there waiting for me ;)

 

I also first thought my two rockets sound different, but after more careful evaluation I have to say they sound close to identical. It's really hard to compare similar sounding tubes, especially since it takes relatively long time to change and warm the tube.

post #813 of 5961

Aaaarghhh... this tube hoarding is making me nuts. I made quite big bids on 3 E188CC`s. Hopefully will lose some auction, otherwise will end up with empty wallet ;D

 

toschek, congrats on Lyr! This is the league too expensive for me (talking guy who is going nuts with tubes ;D ). What I really wanted to find out in the beginning was if Aune T1 is a good match with HD-681 mkII - yes it is very good match. Other option would have been E17 but since I didn`t care about portability went for T1. Glad I did, been loving tube sound very long time and looking back, it was the only way to go. I think there isn`t another offering in that price range that could offer same that Aune T1 does. And pairing it with HD-681mkII is really a top-notch-bang-for-a-buck setup (even with ugrade version 6922EH tube)! 

 

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Get those E188CC`s while you can, I`m going for others: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-E188CC-MULLARD-RTC-BRAND-DIMPLE-DISC-GETTER-GOLD-MATCHED-CRYOTREATED-/310587940337?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5592029622060888096%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D310587940337%26

 

Got myself another Amperex backup and 2 other possible E188CC candidates ;)


Edited by CoiL - 2/14/13 at 9:24am
post #814 of 5961

Hello CoiL! I´ll try to give my impressions, still a newbie in Head-Fi.

 

IMO, the soundstage of Genalex E88CC is taller and wider than the Electro Harmonix 6922H. It's more airy, open! The vocals are more natural! I feel the 6922H is more fatiguing than the Genalex.

 

I bought this tube from Quartz Acoustics (Singapur) http://www.quartzacoustic.com/?product=genalex-gold-lion-e88cc6922-pre-amp-tube

 

Now I´m looking forward to purchase the 6N23P Rocket Logo, and hope to buy the Amperex 7308 in the not so distant future.

post #815 of 5961

Damn that Genalex Gold Lion is so tempting! -.- Got to say NO atm because I decided to buy stereo reciever and build my own stereo speaker system.

 

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Who was the "bastard" who grabbed it on last second from me?! -.- 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230924147070?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649


Edited by CoiL - 2/14/13 at 11:33am
post #816 of 5961

You're right CoiL, it's really tempting!!! Congrats for the new stereo system!

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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

Aaaarghhh... this tube hoarding is making me nuts. I made quite big bids on 3 E188CC`s. Hopefully will lose some auction, otherwise will end up with empty wallet ;D

 

 

Thy wish be done!

 

 

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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

Damn that Genalex Gold Lion is so tempting! -.- Got to say NO atm because I decided to buy stereo reciever and build my own stereo speaker system.

 

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Who was the "bastard" who grabbed it on last second from me?! -.- 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230924147070?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

 

Sorry mate, but this one was indeed a "steal". I thought you have an Amperex already? 

 

Good news is I am now out of the way and I hope you'll find another one soon. If not, I am waiting for another Amperex from Israel, a bit used, but that's taking forever to arrive. If you still need one, I can PM you when I get it. I paid quite a bit more on that one though, about 13 pounds.


Edited by negura - 2/14/13 at 1:12pm
post #818 of 5961

Naah, no problem, just wanted that for backup ;) Btw, I`m still not sure if it was the same amperex I have (single support leg dimple disc getter), because it was hard to see from picture. If it`s same then congrats, it should be very good and rare tube! ;)

post #819 of 5961
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

Naah, no problem, just wanted that for backup ;) Btw, I`m still not sure if it was the same amperex I have (single support leg dimple disc getter), because it was hard to see from picture. If it`s same then congrats, it should be very good and rare tube! ;)

 

Can you point me to a better pic of the tube version you mention? So to compare when I receive it, as I am not that familiar with the varieties of this model.


Edited by negura - 2/14/13 at 1:58pm
post #820 of 5961

This tube: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230899559453?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

post #821 of 5961

Ok guys! I finally bit the bullet and bought a Amperex 7308 Gold Pin (Driver Grade, Cryo) from Upscale Audio: http://www.upscaleaudio.com/products/Amperex-7308-vintage-gold-pin%21.html; I'll post my impressions in a couple of days.

post #822 of 5961

Anyone has tried the Tesla PCC88 red logo?  (I found references to a yellow logo.)

 

I mean, this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290607198682?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

post #823 of 5961
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Originally Posted by mbohupa View Post

Ok guys! I finally bit the bullet and bought a Amperex 7308 Gold Pin (Driver Grade, Cryo) from Upscale Audio: http://www.upscaleaudio.com/products/Amperex-7308-vintage-gold-pin%21.html; I'll post my impressions in a couple of days.

 

Awesome, I wonder how a driver grade tube will fare in this application though?   Hope it works out for you.   Cryo isn't really needed here either, but it certainly won't hurt anything.


Edited by toschek - 2/15/13 at 11:50am
post #824 of 5961

Schiit Lyr will be here on Wednesday, can't wait to see how matched Amperex 7308s & Telefunken CCa tubes do in a gain stage rather than a buffer.   One of these days I'm going to find me some Lorenz 6922's, I've read a lot of gushing on these in the Lyr Tube Rolling thread (which by the way is a great resource for T1 owners since the Lyr uses the same tubes.)

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/549508/schiit-lyr-the-tube-rolling-thread


Edited by toschek - 2/15/13 at 12:55pm
post #825 of 5961
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Originally Posted by walfredo View Post

Anyone has tried the Tesla PCC88 red logo?  (I found references to a yellow logo.)

 

I mean, this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290607198682?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

1st of all, its JJ not real Tesla, 2nd it`s not PCC88, it`s E88CC/6922. And yes, I think it was in the previous page in this thread where someone said it`s really good.

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