Aune T1 USB Tube DAC+Amp Discussion Thread ***See first post for FAQ*** - Page 23

For example, link that icecap gave. Info is out there, there is many more links describing fake tubes, just google. Of course some tubes are copied very good that you can`t make difference but still... doesn`t mean everybody should be afraid to buy NOS tubes from eBay. Have some trust in people ;)

Exactly

 

Plus, this whole shindig is subjective.

 

If I plug in the tube and it sounds great (to me) ...does it matter if its a fake?

yeah.. always two sides to a coin.. and I just feel there can be no guarantee in purchase of tubes.. NOS, NIB, fakes, all the same IMHO.. it can last longer than we live or just die the very next minute.. what is so crucial in buying tubes is the after-support within that any warranty period from the dealers.. after that period, and based on such volatile nature of tubes, this make such purchases just a gamble afterall... that is why most of the time those test readings from tube dealers really do not bother me as there is seriously no way of authenticating them other than using their exact same machines to test! like coil mentioned, is ultimately just a case of trust...

 

and then the relative nature of comparisons also bring into the picture too.. having a few supposedly-different signatures tube to roll can hear the obvious more.. then check with impressions by others all over the net.. by then it should be discerning enough to tell if you have gotten a gem, or the opposite! hah...

It would be an issue if the fake is only 70% as good as the real one. And you paid real good money for it, not fake money.

I'm just happy I bought a real 7308 from a reputable dealer.  I don't need any other tubes, this one works just fine TYVM.  

 

On second thought, I need a dozen maybe to last the rest of my lifetime, but you get the picture.

oh wow,wow. Wow

It would be funny if the fake sounded better, but I highly doubt it.

Don't forget that ebay does not always means "fake" or "thief". Many resellers use ebay as a web portal. It's the case for ebay links I gave earlier in the thread.

Would, would, would you like to clarify?

Fakes equal low quality materials used, lower build quality and are illegal to sell and buy. If you are blindly happy with fake tubes, tube rolling probably isn't for you.

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Edited by Grevlin - 1/26/13 at 7:05am

I'm just commenting on the idea of buying fake things in general. Generally I would make sure 100% that something is real before I buy it and that the person I was buying it from was reputable, but maybe that is just me. I've been known to spend a little too low researching my prospective buys, such as the T1 :) 

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Edited by Grevlin - 1/26/13 at 7:22am

Agree on all points.

 

(Do you mean you sometimes don't research enough before buys?)

 

I'm pretty good at spotting fakes at the ad level because I research the crap out of almost everything I buy online. And I buy a LOT online because I'm very choosy and almost everything I finally choose is not available locally.

 

For example, the tube I bought is from a seller on EBAY. Seller has 357 comments at a rating of 100% positive. Pretty hard to deal in fakes and not get a single negative from 357 buyers. Plus I didn't spot a single suspicious flag on his whole page.

 

More importantly, I'm at the beginner stage so I will be buying tubes at the $20-$30 level for now. Maybe later I could justify getting a tube for $75-$100 or even more. This first tube from EBAY was $18 - if its a fake, I'm not gonna be that put out. The others I order will be from a site like TubeStore, UpscaleAudio, BOI AudioWorks etc

Edited by Grevlin - 1/26/13 at 7:23am

Generally I would be under the assumption that if a seller has 100 % feedback you are good to go. I am the same in so far as I will literally research for weeks before buying something. On the topic, how do you find the T1? Do you reckon it is the best money can buy at the price?