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post #1261 of 5885
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

For my luck - Ultron PCC189 is very good! I think it might be as good as my Mullard ECC88 or even Amperex GAC.

 

Very interesting. Keep us posted how it compares to the Amperex.

post #1262 of 5885
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

For my luck - Ultron PCC189 is very good! And I say it only after it has been in my amp for about 1min. Got two of them. Got to burn-in these babies. I think it might be as good as my Mullard ECC88 or even Amperex GAC. Tight bass & kick, great mids section, great soundstage. Better than Miniwatt/Dario PCC189 for sure. But we`ll see what is my opinion after analytical comparing.

 

E: Going to pick up my Brimar and sylvania now. Will post later first impressions about these.

 

E: Well, first impressions about Sylvania 6922 & Brimar ECC88 (6n23p like structure) - both seem to have airy and large soundstage. Overall, they seem more towards to 6922EH. Ultron PCC189 beats their ass in every way! But this is only first impression with external speakers.

 

Got to burn-in those NOS tubes littlebit. Takes some time and will post comparing results in the end of this week.

You keep costing me money, Coil. Just took the last one of these Ultron PCC189s from a German seller on Ebay. Shipping was more than the tube itself, but I looked forward to comparing it to my GAC.

post #1263 of 5885
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Originally Posted by BluesDaddy View Post

You keep costing me money, Coil. Just took the last one of these Ultron PCC189s from a German seller on Ebay. Shipping was more than the tube itself, but I looked forward to comparing it to my GAC.

 

Hahahaa I was also monitoring that one :D Just checked that Coil probably got this one sold ;)

post #1264 of 5885
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

 

Hahahaa I was also monitoring that one :D Just checked that Coil probably got this one sold ;)

Yeah, I saw five people monitoring it so I thought I'd go ahead and snatch it up. I lost out on an auction last night on a lot of four Amperex Orange Globes, all of which appeared to be GACs (dimpled getters with a single support). The lot went for $51 plus $5 shipping. This one wound up more per tube, but less over all out of my pocket!!

post #1265 of 5885

I got my 2 Ultron PCC189`s from Cyprus (insanely well packaged!). I know that german offer BluesDaddy but are you sure you are getting the Ultron tube? Because 1 of them was sold and they were not same tubes.

 

About JAN Sylvania 6922 - It`s very very similiar to 6922EH. Not sure yet, but seems to have tinybit larger soundstage and maybe tinybit tighter bass. 

 

Brimar ECC88 (with "cup" shaped getter). Don`t bother to compare atm but sounds littlebit bright sided, less bass and less mids compared to amperex. Havent figured out soundstage yet, don`t bother to mess with this tube atm. Later. It`s not bad tube though. Other brimar I have is total s h i t compared to it.

 

I`m tired today and can`t make adequate comparing between Mullard ECC88 & Amperex GAC vs. Ultron PCC189. 

But atm briefly comparing I like Ultron more than Mullard ECC88, it has more "air and life". Mullard ECC88 sounds tinybit "dry" to me when I compare those two. And don`t get your hopes so high up, seems it can`t beat Amperex GAC unfortunately ;(

Will update impressions later this week when everything has been burned-in.


Edited by CoiL - 3/18/13 at 3:35pm
post #1266 of 5885
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

I got my 2 Ultron PCC189`s from Cyprus (insanely well packaged!). I know that german offer BluesDaddy but are you sure you are getting the Ultron tube? Because 1 of them was sold and they were not same tubes.

 

Dang, that pesky language barrier, missed that. Don't know which one I got, but we shall see! tongue.gif E: I sent the seller a message asking which one I'm getting. Hopefully find out in the morning.

 

On a more positive note, I got my Mullard in the mail today from Mike at the Rock Grotto. At first listen, it sounds VERY similar to the GAC to my ears - but I'm only listening through speakers right now and last listened to the GAC last night. So, auditory memory being what it is, I can't say definitively that they sound the same without doing some (relatively) quick A/Bing with headphones. However, it sounds REALLY good playing Bill Evans right now!!


Edited by BluesDaddy - 3/18/13 at 6:29pm
post #1267 of 5885

Yeah, they are very similiar but Mullard isn`t so good in mids section and high seem littlebit "flat". These things make it "dry" compared Amperex GAC which is "full of juice". But it`s only my opinion. 

post #1268 of 5885

My Siemens and Telefunken tubes are really growing on me as they get more burn in. I see myself constantly switching back to them from orange globe. Siemens has diminished soundstage as compared to orange globe, but very nice details and balance. In this case smaller sound stage equals better focus. Telefunken has very good clarity and openess. Tele is also not as warm (colored) as orange globe, but has sweeeeet tight bass. If I listen my Telefunken for a long time and switch back to orange globe, the globe feels slightly blurry in the lower register. I also listened rocket for a change, and it really has lost its magic due to the better tubes I've got. My best tubes are definitely globe, Siemens and Tele, but it seems like I'm enjoying Tele the most at the moment. It's probably because of headphone synergy.

 

The "unidentified" tube of mine is actually a Valvo tube, but sounds better than the Valvo with prints still intact. I guess it's used NOS and hence burned in more.

 

I still haven't decided for what tubes to get to fill the last two spots in my cigar box. I'd really like to hunt down an amperex with tighter bass. Maybe white logos (either 6922 PQ or 7308) could indeed be the solution. They just are so damn expensive. I have couple of interesting auctions going on at the moment but if they left me empty handed I'll probably go for the Ultron.

post #1269 of 5885
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Originally Posted by buestad View Post

Will a russian 6N1P-EV tube work in the Aune T1? An if, Will it be any good?

I Decided not to buy it based on what i found of info, but since I've allready payed for it I decided to change the order to a pair of 6N23P. The ad says they are made by the Reflector plant but the pictures seems to have a rocet logo... Isn't that Voskhod?

post #1270 of 5885
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Originally Posted by Salvatore View Post

My Siemens and Telefunken tubes are really growing on me as they get more burn in. I see myself constantly switching back to them from orange globe. Siemens has diminished soundstage as compared to orange globe, but very nice details and balance. In this case smaller sound stage equals better focus. Telefunken has very good clarity and openess. Tele is also not as warm (colored) as orange globe, but has sweeeeet tight bass. If I listen my Telefunken for a long time and switch back to orange globe, the globe feels slightly blurry in the lower register. I also listened rocket for a change, and it really has lost its magic due to the better tubes I've got. My best tubes are definitely globe, Siemens and Tele, but it seems like I'm enjoying Tele the most at the moment. It's probably because of headphone synergy.

 

The "unidentified" tube of mine is actually a Valvo tube, but sounds better than the Valvo with prints still intact. I guess it's used NOS and hence burned in more.

 

I still haven't decided for what tubes to get to fill the last two spots in my cigar box. I'd really like to hunt down an amperex with tighter bass. Maybe white logos (either 6922 PQ or 7308) could indeed be the solution. They just are so damn expensive. I have couple of interesting auctions going on at the moment but if they left me empty handed I'll probably go for the Ultron.

 

White label Amperex 7308 is pretty nice, very holographic, good detail & dynamics & better than average mids.   They are expensive though, I paid $85/each + shipping for mine.

post #1271 of 5885
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Telefunken has very good clarity and openess. Tele is also not as warm (colored) as orange globe, but has sweeeeet tight bass. 

I`m starting to feel same about my Ultron PCC189. It has littlebit tighter bass & kick + soundstage is bigger&clearer. But it depends on music too, most things are just so "real" with Amperex GAC that nothing can beat it. I still consider Amperex GAC as my best tube with rock/metal/jazz and Ultron PCC189 seems to take 2nd place, Mullard ECC88 is 3rd.

Miniwatt/Dario PCC189 is best tube for every genre and has the best tight bass & kick out of my tubes.

For electronic music 6922EH, JAN Sylvania 6922 & Tungsram  PCC88 are best ones ...last one has tighter bass than the other 2.  

 

Salvatore, PM me if you are going to order that Ultron PCC189, I would like to join with your order (JJ E88CC) if you are willing to post it for me.


Edited by CoiL - 3/19/13 at 4:06pm
post #1272 of 5885
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

White label Amperex 7308 is pretty nice, very holographic, good detail & dynamics & better than average mids.   They are expensive though, I paid $85/each + shipping for mine.

 

Hmm I think it could be actually pretty similar to my 7DJ8 Telefunken then. Maybe I should go for the 6922? What do you think?

post #1273 of 5885
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Originally Posted by buestad View Post

I Decided not to buy it based on what i found of info, but since I've allready payed for it I decided to change the order to a pair of 6N23P. The ad says they are made by the Reflector plant but the pictures seems to have a rocet logo... Isn't that Voskhod?

 

Yes the rocket logo is Voshkod but it should be marginally better than the reflector. Siemens 7DJ8 is even better intimate sounding tube but is also more expensive.

 

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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

I`m starting to feel same about my Ultron PCC189. It has littlebit tighter bass & kick + soundstage is bigger&clearer. But it depends on music too, most things are just so "real" with Amperex GAC that nothing can beat it. I still consider Amperex GAC as my best tube with rock/metal/jazz and Ultron PCC189 seems to take 2nd place, Mullard ECC88 is 3rd.

Miniwatt/Dario PCC189 is best tube for every genre and has the best tight bass & kick out of my tubes.

For electronic music 6922EH, JAN Sylvania 6922 & Tungsram  PCC88 are best ones ...last one has tighter bass than the other 2.  

 

Salvatore, PM me if you are going to order that Ultron PCC189, I would like to join with your order (JJ E88CC) if you are willing to post it for me.

 

Yeah the bass seems to be the weakest link of orange globe. Maybe toned down tight bass + clarity would be the amperex of perfection for me. I usually switch to siemens when listening rock just because of that smaller more focused sound stage. Very large sound stages are not the best in every styles imo.

 

Sure I can order it for you but how much are the shipping costs from the store itself? If you don't mind me sending it to you in a bubble plastic envelope the shipping will be maybe few euros for me (can't really pack it to be too thick or else it goes as a maxi-letter and costs maybe twice the price). I have plenty of those envelopes so you'll get that one for free of course :D All the cardboard boxes I have are quite big and not the best for sending small tubes (cost wise).

post #1274 of 5885

If me myself have to order to Estonia, then I have to buy at least for 30€ + shipping (required for orders outside FIN), so thats why I`m asking for your favor but only when you yourself are going to order something from there. And for me the bubble wrapped tube is ok.

 

About Ultron PCC189 - soundstage is not large but littlebit larger than Amperex (maybe even not larger than Amperex) but it certainly has more "air" and clearness. For 6€ I really recommend you to try it ;)


Edited by CoiL - 3/20/13 at 2:32am
post #1275 of 5885
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Originally Posted by BluesDaddy View Post

 

Dang, that pesky language barrier, missed that. Don't know which one I got, but we shall see! tongue.gif E: I sent the seller a message asking which one I'm getting. Hopefully find out in the morning.

 

Heard back from the Ebay seller, I'm getting the Ultron and not the RSD!! beerchug.gif

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