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post #2611 of 5220
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in the case of the GS-X, the advantage to the balanced output is the doubling of the voltage, for 4x the power

 

Any updates about the current batch?

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April 15 2013 I had paid full price GS-X HEADPHONE AMP.
July 8 to 12 weeks (as indicated on site was when ordering) I tried find out the state of affairs .
My letter of 8 , 9 and 10 July , seller did not answer.
December 23, December 27 and April 5 I sent seller a letter with the request to inform the state of affairs . Answer to it I have not received 

I can say goodbye to the money and called Justin Wilson cheater? 
I ask for advice on the forum what to do.

post #2613 of 5220
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post
 

in the case of the GS-X, the advantage to the balanced output is the doubling of the voltage, for 4x the power

 

Yeah - also IMO has nothing to do with sound quality.  The SQ should be the same at 2x the power as it is with 4x the power.

post #2614 of 5220
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Yeah - also IMO has nothing to do with sound quality.  The SQ should be the same at 2x the power as it is with 4x the power.

Good point, I would not of thought of that

post #2615 of 5220
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Can you quantify the improvements from going SE to balanced?  In my case, 15 to 18% better.

The difference is astonishing I mean like more of twice the power going into the amp as Justin said its like 4X more so the headroom is really unlimited. I could put a number on it but I rather listen to it with balanced headphone however the iEM and TH900 are single ended and been listening to the Alpa Dog single ended but now have the balanced cable and it benefits form the power but the TH900 does not need the extra power or headroom. Excellent for the HD800 as well. the biggest difference power brings to the table is headroom which planar headphones really benefit with power.  I still prefer the hE6 with the WA5. The LCD X all XC and Alpha Dog are all better balanced. I am also using the Oppo BDP 105 balanced and using the 105 dac with the Imac frequently.


Edited by Frank I - 4/8/14 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by anderinnsk View Post

April 15 2013 I had paid full price GS-X HEADPHONE AMP.

July 8 to 12 weeks (as indicated on site was when ordering) I tried find out the state of affairs .

My letter of 8 , 9 and 10 July , seller did not answer.

December 23, December 27 and April 5 I sent seller a letter with the request to inform the state of affairs . Answer to it I have not received 
I can say goodbye to the money and called Justin Wilson cheater? 

I ask for advice on the forum what to do.

I'm going to call BS on this post. Although I happily apologize to poster if wrong. I have been talking to Justin about previous order and he has responded to all inquiries. This poster is first time poster who immediately uses Justin's first name vs something like Headamp. Finally, how did the Poster pay for his amp in full? Headamp's website only allows a deposit to be paid. So poster would have had to create a paypal payment on his own and send it to headamp's paypal email address. That is a lot of effort for no reason as buy button only requires 1/4 payment and gives NO other option. All this makes me call BS.
post #2617 of 5220
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Yeah - also IMO has nothing to do with sound quality.  The SQ should be the same at 2x the power as it is with 4x the power.

I would think SQ would be affected if headphones would perform better with more power. So if headphones are underamped SE, then headphones would have better sq running balanced. Same with all phones that perform better for the increased power. As such, the original thread OP question would be highly dependent on the phones being used I would think.
post #2618 of 5220
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I would think SQ would be affected if headphones would perform better with more power. So if headphones are underamped SE, then headphones would have better sq running balanced. Same with all phones that perform better for the increased power. As such, the original thread OP question would be highly dependent on the phones being used I would think.

 

Besides the HE-6 what TOTL headphone require lots of power?  HD800? - Not really - they do just fine SE.  Look at all the tube amps, "most" of them are SE and some say thew HD800 sound it's best using tubs ie DNA Stratus, ECBA and so on.. .  The LCD's?  maybe again, they did just fine with the GS-1 and with the SE output of the GS-X mk2.

 

In some amps I've known the SE and balance output to have a dramatic difference ie. the BHA-1.  The SE output was really bad compared to it's balanced output.  I have no idea why that was.  However, the SQ from the SE and balanced outputs on the GS-X mk2 are just about identical minus the volume levels or gain setting.

 

FYI - I'm powering my HE-6 with a 10 watt into 8 ohm speaker amp.  Best amp i've heard the HE-6 on that I can afford.

post #2619 of 5220
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Besides the HE-6 what TOTL headphone require lots of power?  HD800? - Not really - they do just fine SE.  Look at all the tube amps, "most" of them are SE and some say thew HD800 sound it's best using tubs ie DNA Stratus, ECBA and so on.. .  The LCD's?  maybe again, they did just fine with the GS-1 and with the SE output of the GS-X mk2.

In some amps I've known the SE and balance output to have a dramatic difference ie. the BHA-1.  The SE output was really bad compared to it's balanced output.  I have no idea why that was.  However, the SQ from the SE and balanced outputs on the GS-X mk2 are just about identical minus the volume levels or gain setting.

FYI - I'm powering my HE-6 with a 10 watt into 8 ohm speaker amp.  Best amp i've heard the HE-6 on that I can afford.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of your assessments. I was pointing out where it would make a difference. If headphones could benefit from the increased slew rate and increased power, then it would benefit. I agree that he6 could use even more power than the gsx can provide. As for other phones, we would have to look at them. If phones have more than enough power with SE then little no benefit would be derived from increased power. However, if you are running fully balanced through entire chain, it could be argued that there is some benefit from that fact via things like lack of signal interference and it's like, although I'm not a huge believer in this.

As for the examples you gave about good pairing with hd800 is more to do with the tube "warmth" than anything else. Also, isn't the ECBA a fully balanced circuit? (Not sure on this one)
post #2620 of 5220
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I'm going to call BS on this post. Although I happily apologize to poster if wrong. I have been talking to Justin about previous order and he has responded to all inquiries. This poster is first time poster who immediately uses Justin's first name vs something like Headamp. Finally, how did the Poster pay for his amp in full? Headamp's website only allows a deposit to be paid. So poster would have had to create a paypal payment on his own and send it to headamp's paypal email address. That is a lot of effort for no reason as buy button only requires 1/4 payment and gives NO other option. All this makes me call BS.

 

I know who he is, and he's been having his relatives in the U.S. call me on the phone and ask about the status. maybe they did not relay the updates to him

HeadAmp Audio Electronics - home of the Pico and Gilmore amps.  Now with Audeze, Fostex, HiFiMAN, Sennheiser, and STAX.
Find us at www.HeadAmp.com

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post #2621 of 5220

I'm talking more specifically and not in a general terms.  Again, what TOTL headphones would need lots of power?  A SE rig will do most of them just fine with little to no gain in going balanced.  Cases can be made for other Planars besides the HE-6, for the HD800s, heck even the T1.  Cases can be made against them as well.

post #2622 of 5220
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post
 

 

I know who he is, and he's been having his relatives in the U.S. call me on the phone and ask about the status. maybe they did not relay the updates to him


Let me apologize to him then.

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Speaking of updates ... I assume the current batch is at the testing phase?
post #2624 of 5220
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Speaking of updates ... I assume the current batch is at the testing phase?

 

they are nearly fully assembled but i still have to finish up the part of the modules with the hand matched transistors

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post #2625 of 5220
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Speaking of updates ... I assume the current batch is at the testing phase?

they are nearly fully assembled but i still have to finish up the part of the modules with the hand matched transistors

Thanks for the update!
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