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I was wondering about the SE vs Balanced comment as well.  Just use balanced to SE adapters or cables.

post #2597 of 5220
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post
 

I was wondering about the SE vs Balanced comment as well.  Just use balanced to SE adapters or cables.

Yea but i had heard from people like Machedonian Hero that you wouldn't be taking advantage of all that the GSX can offer if you didn't go balanced. 

 

Maybe he could chyme in here - I don't know enough about the amp to go into detail and i don't want to be trying to come across as a know it all when I don't own one myself. 

post #2598 of 5220

Single ended, you'd be using half the channels.  Still the best two channels of solid state you can buy.  Balanced GS-X into an in ear monitor is overkill and the GS-1 has no pre-amp switch so even if I could snag one used... I really value that switch :P

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I was afraid someone was gonna ask that. When the stratus arrives i will have to use either the Rdac or the cuinas. I had planned on upgrading my DAC to co-inside with the Stratus but then my sister and 2 of my friends decided to get married, so it looks like the DAC wont happen till the end of the year. 

 

If I had chosen the GSX it would not really work with the Rdac because the Rdac is not balanced ("not work" - is bad wording, i mean that i would not be getting the full use of what the GSX has to offer).

The Stratus/Rdac on the other hand should be exceptable until the other DAC arrives. 

 

Of course the single-ended/balanced thing was not the only reason I choose the Stratus I was also looking for the perfect amp for HD800 and the Stratus seems to suit my tastes. I don't think i could live without tube glow. ;) 

 

No need to worry Paddy, the cuinas is a very capable dac.  Don't know to much about the Rdac. 

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Paddy the GSX sound good single ended as well. I use it with my Fostex TH900 and IEM's Roxanne and UE18 and it is dead quite with them as well. If you have one tube amp. then a solid state amp may be the bette choice for you. I spent so em time hanging with Justin in NY and that Blue Hawaii setup with the 009 was really something. I talk with Justin and there is 3K worth of parts in the Blue Hawaii and about 20 hrs to build it.  The amp looked incredible and was something to behold. The design of the Mk2 was taken form the Blue Hawaii inspiration. 

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Paddy the GSX sound good single ended as well. I use it with my Fostex TH900 and IEM's Roxanne and UE18 and it is dead quite with them as well. If you have one tube amp. then a solid state amp may be the bette choice for you. I spent so em time hanging with Justin in NY and that Blue Hawaii setup with the 009 was really something. I talk with Justin and there is 3K worth of parts in the Blue Hawaii and about 20 hrs to build it.  The amp looked incredible and was something to behold. The design of the Mk2 was taken form the Blue Hawaii inspiration. 

That's why the BHSE is such a screaming bargain (to me even more than the GS-X MK2).  Justin doesn't make much on that amp.  Remember that Uncle Sam does take a big chuck out of his income.  Time to find Mrs. Wilson.  :D

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Paddy the GSX sound good single ended as well. I use it with my Fostex TH900 and IEM's Roxanne and UE18 and it is dead quite with them as well. If you have one tube amp. then a solid state amp may be the bette choice for you. I spent so em time hanging with Justin in NY and that Blue Hawaii setup with the 009 was really something. I talk with Justin and there is 3K worth of parts in the Blue Hawaii and about 20 hrs to build it.  The amp looked incredible and was something to behold. The design of the Mk2 was taken form the Blue Hawaii inspiration. 

Good point about the solid state option. When I get the stratus I will keep the WA2 for a few months and then probably sell it with the tubes - the plan is to get a good solid state amp so i can write some reviews and have 2 points of reference. 

 

I would love to get the GSXMK2 but i think i will use the money from the WA2 to get something like the new Schiit Rag (but i will wait and see how people like it). Schiit products are easy for someone like me (overseas) to acquire. I don't fancy paying 35% tax on another amp from the states. That extra 1000 dollars stings! :( 

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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

Paddy the GSX sound good single ended as well. I use it with my Fostex TH900 and IEM's Roxanne and UE18 and it is dead quite with them as well. If you have one tube amp. then a solid state amp may be the bette choice for you. I spent so em time hanging with Justin in NY and that Blue Hawaii setup with the 009 was really something. I talk with Justin and there is 3K worth of parts in the Blue Hawaii and about 20 hrs to build it.  The amp looked incredible and was something to behold. The design of the Mk2 was taken form the Blue Hawaii inspiration. 

Yeah, it really depends what you're driving. If you're driving IEMs like Regis or the TH900s like Frank (and myself), single ended is A-OK and sound stupendously good. But for say the HD800s or orthos, I'd go balanced for sure.

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Yeah, it really depends what you're driving. If you're driving IEMs like Regis or the TH900s like Frank (and myself), single ended is A-OK and sound stupendously good. But for say the HD800s or orthos, I'd go balanced for sure.

haha - the owl has landed! ;)

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haha - the owl has landed! ;)

Gotta love Fly by Night. :smile:

post #2606 of 5220

i been listening to the GSX Mk 2 frequently and enjoy it immensely. Balanced mostly.

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i been listening to the GSX Mk 2 frequently and enjoy it immensely. Balanced mostly.

Can you quantify the improvements from going SE to balanced?  In my case, 15 to 18% better.

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Can you quantify the improvements from going SE to balanced?  In my case, 15 to 18% better.

Balanced cables are typically used for long distanced runs as it is resistant to outside rf interference. The problem is that this doesn't necessarily give us any advantages for headphone uses. However, there are certain advantages with headphones by going fully balanced. But please try to understand the different kinds of balances there are. In the case of the gsx, I think the key advantage is the fact that balanced outputs have double the output allowing double the slew rate. So harder to drive headphones will really benefit from it similarly for using higher output amp. Someone correct me if am I wrong about this being the chief advantage with gsx.

Here is link to good article from your friends at headroom.com. Ignore the marketing message. But I think the series of articles on balance vs unbalanced is very informative.

http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/art-i-balanced-vs-unbalanced.php
post #2609 of 5220

@ Crashem,

 

Thanks for the link.  Actually, I already understand the benefit of going balanced.  I was directing the question at Frank to see if he is experiencing the same amount of improvements going from SE to balanced.  In my case, I much preferred balanced amplification and hardly drive my phones single-ended any more.

post #2610 of 5220

in the case of the GS-X, the advantage to the balanced output is the doubling of the voltage, for 4x the power

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