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post #2551 of 5220

im audeze-less...

post #2552 of 5220
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IMO monopolising the marketplace and prices happens in most places in the world, and a lot of companies insist on using a distributor and retailer, both have their purposes but they add to the cost of whatever's being got.
When I got the K-01, the UK price was £15,000, that was because a distributor and retailer were involved. My guess if I could've got it directly from Teac Japan, the price might have been between £8,000 or £9,000, but I don't believe it's possible to buy anything directly from Teac.

I think Justin uses a distributor and retailer in Australia, but I'm not sure about anywhere else.
When I got the BHSE, GS-Xmk2, and Pico Slim, I got them directly from Justin, so I've no doubt I saved a lot of money.

Pricejapan.com
post #2553 of 5220
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IMO monopolising the marketplace and prices happens in most places in the world, and a lot of companies insist on using a distributor and retailer, both have their purposes but they add to the cost of whatever's being got.
When I got the K-01, the UK price was £15,000, that was because a distributor and retailer were involved. My guess if I could've got it directly from Teac Japan, the price might have been between £8,000 or £9,000, but I don't believe it's possible to buy anything directly from Teac.

I think Justin uses a distributor and retailer in Australia, but I'm not sure about anywhere else.
When I got the BHSE, GS-Xmk2, and Pico Slim, I got them directly from Justin, so I've no doubt I saved a lot of money.

Pricejapan.com

PriceJapan was where I got my SR-009's from, but out of curiosity I've looked on PriceJapan to see if the Esoteric K-01 was available to which it is.
The price of the K-01 from PriceJapan is £7980 + whatever the delivery is, however it's only available in 100v, and in the UK 230v is needed.
Whether a conversion from 100v to 230v could be done I don't know, but I may eventually be getting the Esoteric C-03X preamp to which if a conversion could be done, I'd more than likely get it from PriceJapan, but this would be along time away before I'd have the spare money.
post #2554 of 5220
Pricejapan really good deal right now as yen is especially weak. As for voltage conversion, shouldn't be a big deal. I bet you can ask them for that version.
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Pricejapan really good deal right now as yen is especially weak. As for voltage conversion, shouldn't be a big deal. I bet you can ask them for that version.

Thank you for that Crashem.

To be honest, I'm extremely annoyed that when I got the K-01 in the UK in 2011, the asking price was £15,000, and yet it can be got in Japan 3 years later for £7980.
I know over time prices usually come down, but in the UK with certain things that's not the case, in fact I've seen the price of the K-01 in the UK at almost £20,000.
When I'm ready to buy another piece of audio equipment, I can definitely say for sure, it will not be from the UK, unless it can be got for the same price as in another country.
If the price in the UK can't be matched and I can't get the item I might be wanting from another country, then I'll not bother.mad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

P.S. If this post has annoyed anyone, then have it removed.
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Actually - I think it's the Europe as whole, not just UK, that sells non-EU equipment for ridiculously high money. Just out of curiosity I went to PriceJapan to see what they got there - I saw ATH-AD1000X for 266€ . The cheapest I could find those headphones here in Slovakia is 530€! I know there is import tax and everything, but doubling the price is simply too much. Most of the time it is way cheaper to get items off ebay/amazon (or stores like PriceJapan) and pay import tax than trying to find a local dealer/reseller. Here in Slovakia, everything above 30€ is charged with 19% VAT + when it's above ~150€ another 2-5% import tax. So, in theory $3200 for GS-X turns to ~2330€ - in reality I will end up paying something around ~2900€. If HeadAmp had a reseller in my area, it wouldn't be cheaper than 4000€ for sure.

 

By the way guys - while I will be waiting for GS-X, I am trying to figure out, which headphones to pair it with. Right now I own ATH-W3000ANV, which are amazing headphones, but I am looking for a complement, since they are lacking transparency and soundstage for big orchestral pieces (or for classical music in general). ATM I am looking at HD800, HE-6, HE-500, LCD-2, LCD-X and LCD-XC. I am leaning towards HD800, for quite some time (with LCD-X trailing behind), since they are supposedly a master in this department, but I am worried about one thing - piercing trebles and sibilance. There were quite few opinions that SS amp and HD800 might create too much sibilance, and I don't like it. I will get high-grade copper cables from FAW to calm it down, but maybe some of you have a first hand experience with both HD800 and LCD-X on GS-X. One of the biggest points for HD800 is their price - 700€ difference between them and LCD-X is quite much. Or maybe I missed some other headphones that would be worth of consideration.


Edited by filuS - 4/6/14 at 4:54am
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When I got my SR-009's from PriceJapan in 2011, I did pay import VAT, but I will not post the amount I ended up paying, let's just say I was surprised.
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When I got my SR-009's from PriceJapan in 2011, I did pay import VAT, but I will not post the amount I ended up paying, let's just say I was surprised.

I can imagine - have been stung that way myself. 

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When I got my SR-009's from PriceJapan in 2011, I did pay import VAT, but I will not post the amount I ended up paying, let's just say I was surprised.
I can imagine - have been stung that way myself. 

Hi Paddy,
I should add I was pleasantly surprised.
post #2560 of 5220
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Hi Paddy,
I should add I was pleasantly surprised.

well in that case, good stuff :beerchug:

post #2561 of 5220

I didn't mean to get anyone angry or take this thread off course.  I do want to point out a few misconceptions/issues.  Pricejapan isn't a store per say.  They are a buying service that buys on your behalf with Japanese dealers/distributors.  No different if you have a good friend in Japan that had a lot of relationships with audio stores/distibutors who bought and shipped to you.  Prices on the website are estimates and don't include their fee and shipping.  When you buy from them, you have to deal with any issues around support/service with you essentially having bought from Japan.

 

I can't/won't defend the local practices of your local distributors/dealers.  Remember that prices on PriceJapan seem especially low right now because of historical weakness on Yen.  Your local audio retailer/distributor has to deal with currency fluctuation, stocking inventory, maintaining retail space, import taxes, etc.  Additionally there may be pricing imbalance from the manufacturer for different markets.  Notice the recent pricing imbalance on the Chord Hugo between UK and US.

 

That being said, the prices direct from Japan on certain Japanese items are still a deal given all those factors.  Only you can decide if local support is worth the price difference.  Personally, I think the markups from some audio retailers/distributors are very reasonable if you take all that into account.  However, some audio dealers/distributors are greedier than others.  Additionally, your local market may be more competitive than others.  For example, I think the US market in general to be the most competitive in the world and have the best pricing across the board, even for specialty goods like audio equipment.  There is a reason with the dollar weakening in the last few years that tourists come to the US with empty bags but don't leave with them.

 

All that being said, you need to do your research and take responsibility as a shopper.  Only you can decide if the local markup (if there is one) is worth the service/support they provide.  I often find that local pricing (although I am in US) is similar or the markup reasonable and worth it.  In the case of my SR009 purchase, it was the speed more than the pricing that I couldn't resist and is a function that Pricejapan's relationships give them access to retailers that happen to get stock faster (No one is crying though at saving the money I did).

post #2562 of 5220
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Dear Mr Justin Wilson,

I ordered GS-X MK 2 on 2nd September 2013
and I paid a deposit 745.00 USD.
I canceled the order on 14th November 2013 and I asked you for a deposit refund (minus counting the costs of sending money back). I have THREE TIMES via e-mail urged this request but you did not answer me. I can therefore nothing more than to publicly ask you this way: When will you return the deposit to me? I understand it takes time than the amplifier is produced. But why do I have to wait so long for returning deposit?
 
Sincerely
 
Vladimir Sirlo
Kamenicka 330/2
Decin I
405 02
Czech Republic
E-mail: vl@sirlo.cz
 
Paypal invoice ID: 2hwve88mvgsrjy4tcrcfym9j40gk8ws4skcw0c4
Date of payment: September 2, 2013

 

I'm sure Justin is busy right now as he is in the middle of finishing off a huge batch of amps.  I would not worry.  Justin has a great reputation and I know of no cases where someone was dissatisfied, let alone cheated, in the end.

 

If you haven't gotten your money back and can confirm your order isn't canceled, it might be easier for you to "sell" your spot as your order date is from last year and someone should get their amp sooner than they would otherwise.  I know it has been done before.

 

Now that I think about it.  PM me.  I can check with Justin as it is easier for me to contact him being in the US also.  If he is okay with it, I would take over your spot with Headamp and send you the money instead.  Hadn't really considered the GS-X yet given the wait and that I have other comparable amps already or on order.  However if I can shorten the time, that changes how I feel.

post #2563 of 5220
I do agree that distributors and retailers have to take their share, but the K-01 at over double the price in the UK to what it could be got for in Japan, IMO is scandalous.
One of the reasons I've enjoyed buying from Headamp, is I got the amps I have directly from Justin.
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And to consider warranties in the states being done by Yama...PJ doesn't look so grey market to me.

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Prices on the website are estimates and don't include their fee and shipping.

 

They include everything except PayPal fees.

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