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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post
 

 

Look into the Master 9.

Realize it sounds 99% like the GSX, albeit probably even more neutral.

Pay half the cost-have it in less than 2 weeks.

 

Problem solved.

 

-Daniel

Have you heard the GSX MK2?

I have a few issues with Audio gd....built half way around the world and RMAs would be a real pain...and we both know that the Master 10 is only a few months away. ;)

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And the Master 11 2 months later
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And the Master 11 2 months later

 

I see a pattern here. :p

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I have not. But I've heard a number of Dynalo builds, Dynhahi's, and a GS-1. Have you heard a Master 5/6/8/9? They are all known to be excruciatingly neutral, 'dead nuts neutral', wire w/ gain sound. That is also the sound that GSX owners have been clamoring about now forever as well. Dubstep Girl recently compared both-and found them nearly identical. If you read between the lines at her experience (w/ Mytek pairing)-you would also likely conclude that the AGD is actually more neutral if anything-but either way they are almost identical. Kevin Gilmore is also extremely impressed w/ the Master 8 design based on it's topology, implementation, and claims he couldn't even source those same parts for $1500-let alone build it and sell it for that. ;)

 

In regards to the Master 10 being possibly just around the corner-yes, more than likely. But keep in mind there is very little difference at all between the 5/6/8/9 as they stand-just slight power increases, and in one instance the simple implementation of a hi/lo power switch on the back.

 

I owned the M8 and it is absolutely, unequivocally the most neutral, transparent piece of gear I've ever owned or heard. To my ears it was a good step up over the Dynalo/GS-1 I had previously owned-by a fair bit. Your own comments on the GSX mkI w/ upgraded modules tells me you've experienced the same.

 

So-heck yes I'd absolutely consider the Master series on equal footing with the GSX mkII-and it seems I'm not alone with this. Sure the aesthetics of the Headamp are untouchable-but I'd wager a lot of people here wouldn't find that worth an extra $13-1500 or a year wait time. ;) I also agree that an RMA to CHINA would be a REAL pain in the butt. OTOH-you could buy a second one with the money saved (bada bing!). AGD actually does have a decent warranty program though-details on their site if you're so inclined.

 

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong-I'd personally pay the difference for the aesthetics alone, even though I actually like the looks of the huge AGD stuff. But the GSX would be an amp I keep for LIFE (like my Leviathan)-and to that end paying a premium for aesthetics for the next 40 years isn't that big of a deal to me. But dang it the wait time is lol.

 

My .02.

 

-Daniel

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I see a pattern here. :p

 

Yep-with improvements. And possibly a Master 18 by the time your GSX order finally ships. :wink_face:

 

-Daniel

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Yep-with improvements. And possibly a Master 18 by the time your GSX order finally ships. :wink_face:

 

-Daniel

Still...say adios to any resale. ;)

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Still...say adios to any resale. ;)

I've lost merely pennies on the dollar for all my AGD sales-but I can't speak for others. Also-Headamps high resale is in part because of the extreme waiting times-I doubt you can deny that either.

 

-Daniel

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For what it is worth the M9 is not a refinement on the M5/6/8 line but a departure into something else.

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Fwiw, I enjoyed the master 8 and liked comparing it to the GSX mk2, side by side with the same dac. Overall, it comes extremely close to gsx mk2 performance and is a huge bargain at the price, its faster and easier to get than the gsx mk2. However, in the end i would still take the mk2 due to resale value, size and appearance, and the fact that the gsx mk2 has a sound signature that suits me better. (Slight warmth more accurate staging vs huge soundstage and airy treble). I highly recommend both of them.

The master 8 is cheaper and you would have to consider if the gsx mk2 is worth the extra money or not. I think as a whole the mk2 is slightly better but the master 8 might be the better value.

I also enjoyed listening to the zana the few days i had it and can say its one of the better amps ive heard. I did find though that you have to listen to it and find if the sound signature is right for you though, tube rolling also significantly changed the sound on the zana. I could live with the zana/hd 800 but personally i prefer the gsx mk2 or even the wa6-se with the th-900, just the sound signature wasnt for me.
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Fwiw, I enjoyed the master 8 and liked comparing it to the GSX mk2, side by side with the same dac. Overall, it comes extremely close to gsx mk2 performance and is a huge bargain at the price, its faster and easier to get than the gsx mk2. However, in the end i would still take the mk2 due to resale value, size and appearance, and the fact that the gsx mk2 has a sound signature that suits me better. (Slight warmth more accurate staging vs huge soundstage and airy treble). I highly recommend both of them.

The master 8 is cheaper and you would have to consider if the gsx mk2 is worth the extra money or not. I think as a whole the mk2 is slightly better but the master 8 might be the better value.

I also enjoyed listening to the zana the few days i had it and can say its one of the better amps ive heard. I did find though that you have to listen to it and find if the sound signature is right for you though, tube rolling also significantly changed the sound on the zana. I could live with the zana/hd 800 but personally i prefer the gsx mk2 or even the wa6-se with the th-900, just the sound signature wasnt for me.

 

Would you agree that the M8 is slightly more neutral than the MKII? The way I understood it, you used your Mytek with both? Seeing as that is known by some to be slightly bright sounding (do you?)-I could see why you'd say that the M8 is 'brighter'-because it's actually more neutral, compared to the slightly warm GSX. Sound right?

 

-Daniel

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For what it is worth the M9 is not a refinement on the M5/6/8 line but a departure into something else.

 

How so? I recall Kingwa saying it was basically an M8, but with more warmth in the bass. To me, that sounds like it would get even closer to the GSX signature. Also, have you heard any of the Master amps yet, and would you agree with DG's comments?

 

-Daniel

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I like both companies.  I loved the Master 7.  Only heard the Master 3 power amp with the HE-6 and liked it a lot.  It was way south of neutral being a  warm and intimate amp .  Never heard any of the headphone amps.  The headphone amps are just BUTT UGLY IMO.  Also, not to sure about his volume control compared to the DACT.  All I would buy from Audio-gd at this point would be his highest end DACs.

 

I would like to see all these comparisons between these two amps.  I've sold my GS-X mk2.  I missed it so much I jumped back on the list:biggrin:

 

As far as SS amps go it's hard to beat what Justin puts out.  I'm talking build quality, Very good looks, Very good sound and won't break the bank.

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I don't recall DG saying her Mytek was a bright DAC?  

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I like both companies.  I loved the Master 7.  Only heard the Master 3 power amp with the HE-6 and liked it a lot.  It was way south of neutral being a  warm and intimate amp .  Never heard any of the headphone amps.  The headphone amps are just BUTT UGLY IMO.  Also, not to sure about his volume control compared to the DACT.  All I would buy from Audio-gd at this point would be his highest end DACs.

 

I would like to see all these comparisons between these two amps.  I've sold my GS-X mk2.  I missed it so much I jumped back on the list:biggrin:

 

As far as SS amps go it's hard to beat what Justin puts out.  I'm talking build quality, Very good looks, Very good sound and won't break the bank.

Thank you as well for some meaningful discussion. :) If you loved the other top AGD gears, maybe you can someday listen to the M8/9 series and give some more comparisons to the GSX sometime. As far as the DACT vs AGD's method-Kingwas goes into some discussion on his site (good luck finding it lol) about the improvements he feels his digital colume control has over his past iterations. Obviously there are some GSX owners who prefer the Alpha over the DACT and vice versa too.

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

I don't recall DG saying her Mytek was a bright DAC?

I believe she thought it was bright at first, but tamed down after a long burn in period. I know others have commented on it's brightness-not sure about the burn in factor in those cases though.

 

-Daniel


Edited by BournePerfect - 12/5/13 at 4:06pm
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Well, to be fair, people will always want the newest and greatest. While its true that A-Gd releases a new product every other month or two, it is not so frequent that their top-end line (i.e. Master series amps) get updated, I would say probably after a year or two for any major changes to the design. 

 

The drop in resale value will happen to headamp products too, once the GSX mkIII is out or when Gilmore comes up with a better design. The simple fact that the GSX costs twice as much as the master 9, obviously, even used, it will cost more. I agree with Daniel and DG here, the Master 9 is a fantastic value if one can overlook the design (actually, a very solid build and functional design) and the fact that its 'made in china' (h/w, using all high end grade parts). The only reason one pays double for the GSX is for the fancy casing and labor.


Edited by DarknightDK - 12/5/13 at 4:00pm
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