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post #2056 of 3431

I sold my KGSS/007mk1 after having the LCD-2 Rev1/B22 in house for a few months.  The GS-X mk2/LCD-3 just stomps that setup so... um ya.  For your goals, LCD-3.

post #2057 of 3431
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

I sold my KGSS/007mk1 after having the LCD-2 Rev1/B22 in house for a few months.  The GS-X mk2/LCD-3 just stomps that setup so... um ya.  For your goals, LCD-3.

:beerchug:

post #2058 of 3431

I am just getting sick of the analytical approach of electrostatics.  Yes- they are accurate- and fast- and less colored than dynamics for the most part, and probably more truthful,   but I feel they lack intimacy and emotional pull.  Not that I want a foggy, smeared presentation, but rather a weightier, more lush one and I am wondering more and more if I got the wrong system for me.

 

Not surprisingly to me, the 007 MK2 is my favorite of any electrostatic headphone I ever heard because it has a weightier sound even though it is at the cost of some coloration.  No one on head-fi would agree with me on that one because the goals of those who get electrostatic systems is to achieve that purity of detail and presentation which the 007MK2 violates- leaning in the weightier, fuller, rounder direction.


Edited by rsbrsvp - 11/28/13 at 5:06am
post #2059 of 3431
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

I am just getting sick of the analytical approach of electrostatics.  Yes- they are accurate- and fast- and less colored than dynamics for the most part, and probably more truthful,   but I feel they lack intimacy and emotional pull.  Not that I want a foggy, smeared presentation, but rather a weightier, more lush one and I am wondering more and more if I got the wrong system for me.

 

What DAC are you using?

post #2060 of 3431

DAC-41 by ultrafi,   very musical and stressing the more organic whole rather than micro detail.  A warmer sounding DAC.

post #2061 of 3431
What price range is the dac within? Am not trying to judge something I've never listened to by its cost but in the world of dac, " you got what you paid for" rule applies all the time. For a BHSE and 007 combo, I would strongly recommend a source costs no less than 5k (used is better). For example, I've never found a Sabre es9018 dac provides enough weight and punch that I'm looking for, even from some considered as the TOTL model.

If you are looking for punch and weight, suggest you try R2R dac such as MSB and Total
post #2062 of 3431
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Sweet! Now can you imagine how good orange would look?  :-)

 

Sadly, I am a team of one on that tangent and so black it is. Justin, heal and feel better. It will be after the holidays when these are ready and personally I don't care if it is the Western holidays (Festivus) or the Chinese new years holidays. Take your time and get them out right. Very excited to get my MK2 when it hatches.

post #2063 of 3431
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

I am just getting sick of the analytical approach of electrostatics.  Yes- they are accurate- and fast- and less colored than dynamics for the most part, and probably more truthful,   but I feel they lack intimacy and emotional pull.  Not that I want a foggy, smeared presentation, but rather a weightier, more lush one and I am wondering more and more if I got the wrong system for me.

 

Not surprisingly to me, the 007 MK2 is my favorite of any electrostatic headphone I ever heard because it has a weightier sound even though it is at the cost of some coloration.  No one on head-fi would agree with me on that one because the goals of those who get electrostatic systems is to achieve that purity of detail and presentation which the 007MK2 violates- leaning in the weightier, fuller, rounder direction.

Emotional pull is a tough metric to understand. Over time I think we discover what pulls us in emotionally, and while for some it's weight, for others it's transparency and for others yet something else. The SR007, in my system, with the KGSS, for some reason doesn't have that emotional pull I look for (I think it's very underamped). The LCD 2 and 3 (close) also don't do it for me, whereas the HD800, SR009 and HE60 all suck me in like a vacuum. Weighty and lush are magnets to your emotions, openness and clarity rock my boat...makes the journey a hell of a lot easier knowing these things I think. 

post #2064 of 3431
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Emotional pull is a tough metric to understand. Over time I think we discover what pulls us in emotionally, and while for some it's weight, for others it's transparency and for others yet something else. The SR007, in my system, with the KGSS, for some reason doesn't have that emotional pull I look for (I think it's very underamped). The LCD 2 and 3 (close) also don't do it for me, whereas the HD800, SR009 and HE60 all suck me in like a vacuum. Weighty and lush are magnets to your emotions, openness and clarity rock my boat...makes the journey a hell of a lot easier knowing these things I think. 

You are right on!!!!

post #2065 of 3431
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

I am just getting sick of the analytical approach of electrostatics.  Yes- they are accurate- and fast- and less colored than dynamics for the most part, and probably more truthful,   but I feel they lack intimacy and emotional pull.  Not that I want a foggy, smeared presentation, but rather a weightier, more lush one and I am wondering more and more if I got the wrong system for me.

 

Not surprisingly to me, the 007 MK2 is my favorite of any electrostatic headphone I ever heard because it has a weightier sound even though it is at the cost of some coloration.  No one on head-fi would agree with me on that one because the goals of those who get electrostatic systems is to achieve that purity of detail and presentation which the 007MK2 violates- leaning in the weightier, fuller, rounder direction.

I haven't heard electrostatic headphones yet but i did hear some electro static speakers and hated them. No meat at all. They were Martin Logan speakers they cost 10,000 +. I don't know what amp it was because somebody else was demoing them and i happened to be there but yea, not for me. I wonder is the 009/BHSE like that - thin? 

 

Sorry for the side track. 

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I haven't heard electrostatic headphones yet but i did hear some electro static speakers and hated them. No meat at all. They were Martin Logan speakers they cost 10,000 +. I don't know what amp it was because somebody else was demoing them and i happened to be there but yea, not for me. I wonder is the 009/BHSE like that - thin? 

 

Sorry for the side track. 

 

I agree about the Martin Logans. I have heard probably the same recently and they are underwhelming and not worth that money imo. I heard them on a £20k Krell. The headphones don't compare. If you hear the high-end PMC speakers that's imo more towards the electrostatic headphones.

 

I can't speak about the BHSE as I've not heard it. But I've heard the Stax amps, KGSSHV and obviously my tube amp/Wee solution. Based on the previous descriptions either the BHSE is not so good, which I doubt. :) Or simply there's something else not up to par and/or preference. My bet is on the DAC. In my experiences the 007&009 just don't sound like that. With a good source behind and when well driven the 007 MKI are tactile like hell, strong deep bass rumble, body and impact, but with open, clear, transparent sound and proper treble. The 009s are also like that, just a bit less bass quantity but better quality, still strong proper bass. Also more neutral, bigger soundstage and better definition and precision. My 2c, FWIW, etc.


Edited by negura - 11/28/13 at 3:58pm
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I agree about the Martin Logans. I have heard probably the same recently and they are underwhelming and not worth that money imo. I heard them on a £20k Krell. The headphones don't compare. If you hear the high-end PMC speakers that's imo more towards the electrostatic headphones.

 

I can't speak about the BHSE as I've not heard it. But I've heard the Stax amps, KGSSHV and obviously my tube amp/Wee solution. Based on the previous descriptions either the BHSE is not so good, which I doubt. :) Or simply there's something else not up to par and/or preference. My bet is on the DAC. In my experiences the 007&009 just don't sound like that. With a good source behind and when well driven the 007 MKI are tactile like hell, strong deep bass rumble, body and impact, but with open, clear, transparent sound and proper treble. The 009s are also like that, just a bit less bass quantity but better quality, still strong proper bass. Also more neutral, bigger soundstage and better definition and precision. My 2c, FWIW, et

have you heard the stax omega? A guy i know on headfi who is also irish has 007 and 009 and the omega but he prefers the omega. I think he recently sold the 009. He actually has hd800 up for sale also. I would really like to hear hd800/gsxmk2. /i was thinking about getting it a while back but i would have to sell my woo and get a much better dac. 

post #2068 of 3431

Omega only in meet conditions. With that caveat, I think the other two are better all arounders, but the SR-Omegas are very special too. What is the guy amping the Stax with?

 

I really hope someone from the UK or whereabouts brings a GS-X at the next meet in 2014. I am still interested reading about it and any detailed comparisons with other top amps. There are so many people with the GS-X and with multiple top tier amplifiers, but for some reason, I've yet to read a detailed comparison of GS-X to Master 8/9, WA5, DNA Stratus, Studio Six, etc.


Edited by negura - 11/28/13 at 4:36pm
post #2069 of 3431
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Originally Posted by negura View Post
 

Omega only in meet conditions. With that caveat, I think the other two are better all arounders, but the SR-Omegas are very special too. What is the guy amping the Stax with?

 

I really hope someone from the UK or whereabouts brings a GS-X at the next meet in 2014. I am still interested reading about it and any detailed comparisons with other top amps. There are so many people with the GS-X and with multiple top tier amplifiers, but for some reason, I've yet to read a detailed comparison of GS-X to Master 8/9, WA5, DNA Stratus, Studio Six, etc.

i was gonna go to the london meet. i kept asking if there was gonna be a DNA or GSX on the thread but nobody replied so i didn't bother going in the end. You go?

post #2070 of 3431
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Originally Posted by negura View Post
 

Omega only in meet conditions. With that caveat, I think the other two are better all arounders, but the SR-Omegas are very special too. What is the guy amping the Stax with?

 

I really hope someone from the UK or whereabouts brings a GS-X at the next meet in 2014. I am still interested reading about it and any detailed comparisons with other top amps. There are so many people with the GS-X and with multiple top tier amplifiers, but for some reason, I've yet to read a detailed comparison of GS-X to Master 8/9, WA5, DNA Stratus, Studio Six, etc.

 

ive posted a few impressions of GS-X vs. Master 8.

 

basically the master 8 is slightly brighter than the gsx but both are fairly neutral with a similar sound signature. the master 8 has a bigger soundstage and more air, the gsx slightly warmer. but overall both sound pretty much dead neutral.

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