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post #1816 of 2280

"2 Small Hybrid Single-Dual Flang"

 

I am using these since they don't go entirely deep into my ear canal like the filtrd tips. Sound is amazing on these iems. I am coming over from my beloved fx700. Definitely going to take a better look at the "2 Medium Asymmetrical**" tips. May be too large for my canal. No cable noise when worn down. This is a huge plus as the re400 suffered from noise when wearing cable down.


Edited by audiobot - 7/31/13 at 2:00am
post #1817 of 2280

Got these today.

 

It's a RE262 upgrade for sure, very similar signature, midrange focused with soft treble and bass. 

 

RE272 upgrade? I can't compare them side-by-side, but the RE272 impressed me quite more, despite taking issue with it's bass. At most it's a RE272 sidegrade. RE272 is clearer and more airy, even though it wont have the 400s "sweetness". Will compare them side-by-side to RE400 soon, will mod RE400 to match RE600 and compare as well. 

 

They don't stand a chance to my BDD+NE or my modded 9927..

 

More details later. 


Edited by Inks - 7/31/13 at 10:39pm
post #1818 of 2280
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Got these today.

 

It's a RE262 upgrade for sure, very similar signature, midrange focused with soft treble and bass. 

 

RE272 upgrade? I can't compare them side-by-side, but the RE272 impressed me quite more, despite taking issue with it's bass. At most it's a RE272 sidegrade. RE272 is clearer and more airy, even though it wont have the 400s "sweetness". Will compare them side-by-side to RE400 soon, will mod RE400 to match RE600 and compare as well. 

 

They don't stand a chance to my BDD+NE or my modded 9927..

 

More details later. 

 

I have to say, the first thing that came to mind when I heard the RE-600 for the first time was RE-262, the description of signature just about matched up exactly despite me never hearing the RE-262 (reason why I didn't say anything).  I will agree with softer treble, but can't say it has soft bass, IMO, it's at the same level (quantity-wise) as the RE-400 (unless you consider that soft, then I'm in complete agreement). 

post #1819 of 2280

HA, I just noticed NOW that I actually had the filtered sleeves. always thought the upper row was the same as the lower.

didn't get the same as tinyman392 though.

 

but the small bi-flange sounds the best to me by quite a bit. stock I assume?

post #1820 of 2280
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HA, I just noticed NOW that I actually had the filtered sleeves. always thought the upper row was the same as the lower.

didn't get the same as tinyman392 though.

 

but the small bi-flange sounds the best to me by quite a bit. stock I assume?

 

LOL, yeah, it's always a good idea to pull everything out of the box ;)  They might be mroe different than you think.  You didn't get the same tips?  I had an extra baggy with the cable winder, filters and additional tips (as well as Comply Foam in two separate individual baggies).  When'd you get your IEMs? 

post #1821 of 2280
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I have to say, the first thing that came to mind when I heard the RE-600 for the first time was RE-262, the description of signature just about matched up exactly despite me never hearing the RE-262 (reason why I didn't say anything).  I will agree with softer treble, but can't say it has soft bass, IMO, it's at the same level (quantity-wise) as the RE-400 (unless you consider that soft, then I'm in complete agreement). 

From memory it is about the same as RE400's bass, though likely with better extension than RE400 as you mention, as the driver seems electrically more damped. I consider it soft because of the slight lack of subbass, it's quite neutral though.  
 

It's not a bad IEM per say, but I do find it overpriced for the performance, but then again, tons of IEMs are overpriced nowadays. 

post #1822 of 2280
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From memory it is about the same as RE400's bass, though likely with better extension than RE400 as you mention, as the driver seems electrically more damped. I consider it soft because of the slight lack of subbass, it's quite neutral though.  
 

It's not a bad IEM per say, but I do find it overpriced for the performance, but then again, tons of IEMs are overpriced nowadays. 

 

OK, I can't agree with those subjective assessments.  Coming from the RE-400, I do feel it diverges from neutral (mainly due to the bump in the mids), going from a warm signature to a warm and sweet; but definitely close to neutral.

 

Compared to things in its price range, UE 900, W4, Phonak (above it's price range), 4.Ai I actually feel this IEM is right up there (if not better)...  However, at that price point, as you state, many things are overpriced. 

post #1823 of 2280
Agree with the first part

All those mentioned are also overpriced [can't speak for 232 though], though maybe not W4 since it blows aways the others in build and is now about 300$. UE900 could've been worth its price if it weren't so buggy. Main problem with the RE600 is ironically and potentially the RE400, ill be more definitive once I get my loaner.
Edited by Inks - 8/1/13 at 12:50am
post #1824 of 2280
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LOL, yeah, it's always a good idea to pull everything out of the box ;)  They might be mroe different than you think.  You didn't get the same tips?  I had an extra baggy with the cable winder, filters and additional tips (as well as Comply Foam in two separate individual baggies).  When'd you get your IEMs? 

well mine were all flipped upside down and pushed down into hard-to-reach holes in the foam. didn't receive any bag on the side.

 

this is the selection I got, and got them about a month ago. but I did get that white cable thingy as well as extra foam filters. biggrin.gif

post #1825 of 2280
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well mine were all flipped upside down and pushed down into hard-to-reach holes in the foam. didn't receive any bag on the side.



this is the selection I got, and got them about a month ago. but I did get that white cable thingy as well as extra foam filters. biggrin.gif

I was talking about the RE-600, not the RE-400. If you were to order the RE-400 today, I believe HiFiMan includes some additional tips. The 400 I got only comes with three types: dual-flange (S/L), single filter-bar flange (S). Lol that looks like the picture I took tongue.gif
post #1826 of 2280

sorry for not being clear- I am talking about the RE-600 too. I just got the same tips as in the RE-400 picture above. tongue.gif

post #1827 of 2280
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sorry for not being clear- I am talking about the RE-600 too. I just got the same tips as in the RE-400 picture above. tongue.gif

When'd you get the RE-600? Maybe the tips were added more recently (like when they decided to improve the tip selection with the RE-400).
post #1828 of 2280
James pair got the same selection just doubled
post #1829 of 2280
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James pair got the same selection just doubled

 

Hm...  OK.  Got no clue why then. 

post #1830 of 2280
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When'd you get the RE-600? Maybe the tips were added more recently (like when they decided to improve the tip selection with the RE-400).

about a month ago as previously mentioned, from the New York City event.

yeah, I'm assuming that's what happened. smile.gif but I'm really happy with the small bi-flange, so I'm not sure if the added tips are worth worrying about.

 

a tiny bit curious about sony hybrids though, as I've found them to have the best seal + comfort so far. 

if anyone has, I'd love to hear impressions vs the small bi-flange!

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