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post #1636 of 2521
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Originally Posted by jgwtriode View Post





Wow that's amazing and generous. How do I get in on that? I would love to audition a pair and will happily report on all the differences I hear between them.

Sweet offer. Let me know!

Happy Listening!

 

PM James or Inks, or at least that's what James' post said to do ;)

post #1637 of 2521

The message I received just now:

 

"I'm afraid, you seem to have some personal feud with Inks, and since he'll be organizing the tour, I can't get you in.

 

The only way I'd see is to contact him directly and sort things out, then I'd of course be ok with it too."

 

LOL Thanks for the generous offer anyway, buddy.


Edited by tigon_ridge - 7/22/13 at 3:28pm
post #1638 of 2521
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Originally Posted by fnkcow View Post

Looking at the RE-400 threads, RE-600 definitely justifies its 4x price.

RE-400 offers amazing sound, but many of them have so many quality issues it almost feels like you pay $99 as a 30-day trial period, since quite a number of them lasts no more than 30 days, then you pay $399 to finally purchase it, ie RE-600 to unlock the full package. blink.gif

 

That really isn't so... I abused them for a month and they are still fine. My only worry is the cord execution. While I like the 45 degree plugs, I feel like there isn't enough flexibility in that area to prevent internal fraying. However, the RE-600s have the same execution on the TRRS to TRS cable, so it would potentially have the same issue. I do like the execution for the TRRS plug though. 

 

They aren't my main ones though, well not anymore. I'm currently using my ASG-2s as my daily drivers. For $100 though there is little that I can complain about with the RE-400s. 

post #1639 of 2521
The cable cinch is worthless! Biggest design fail of the RE-400. Tried to wear them at work all day(over ear)today and had to adjust 30 times? Slick plastic on slick plastic and it doesn't work? I can't believe it! Didn't anyone test this? It needs to be rubber, ask Shure....
Edited by jmsaxon69 - 7/22/13 at 4:24pm
post #1640 of 2521
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Originally Posted by kyuuketsuki View Post

That really isn't so... I abused them for a month and they are still fine. My only worry is the cord execution. While I like the 45 degree plugs, I feel like there isn't enough flexibility in that area to prevent internal fraying. However, the RE-600s have the same execution on the TRRS to TRS cable, so it would potentially have the same issue. I do like the execution for the TRRS plug though. 

They aren't my main ones though, well not anymore. I'm currently using my ASG-2s as my daily drivers. For $100 though there is little that I can complain about with the RE-400s. 

It was the thing that gave way after 2 months of regular gentle use.
The jack simply snapped inside. It only ever was in my pocket. First one channel started to drop then both
Had it replaced by a single.mold non-angled jack and had no problems since then.
Props to my local dealer for doing that swap free of charge for a single molded solution smily_headphones1.gif
This is definitely a weakness IMO
post #1641 of 2521
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Originally Posted by fnkcow View Post

Looking at the RE-400 threads, RE-600 definitely justifies its 4x price.

RE-400 offers amazing sound, but many of them have so many quality issues it almost feels like you pay $99 as a 30-day trial period, since quite a number of them lasts no more than 30 days, then you pay $399 to finally purchase it, ie RE-600 to unlock the full package. blink.gif

 

No way, dude. I cut grass, exercise, etc... with my 400s and they've been doing great for well over a month. No concerns. 

post #1642 of 2521

Keep in mind that the cable stress reliever connected to the housings are glued on. Some people have reported on them going loose. I'd be very careful about how I treat them, in case you're one of the few whose relievers were not adequately glued. I sleep and roll around with these in my ears with no issue so far with having them go loose on me.

post #1643 of 2521

I almost want to get a pair of RE-400 just to get in on this loaner tour. biggrin.gif

post #1644 of 2521

Damn ....Hifiman always has had issues with its  cables, you would think it would be a simple fix.....surely

post #1645 of 2521
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Originally Posted by tigon_ridge View Post

The message I received just now:

 

"I'm afraid, you seem to have some personal feud with Inks, and since he'll be organizing the tour, I can't get you in.

 

The only way I'd see is to contact him directly and sort things out, then I'd of course be ok with it too."

 

LOL Thanks for the generous offer anyway, buddy.

 

OK, so just because Inks doesn't like you, and there are a lot of people he doesn't like (and a lot that return the favor), you don't get on the tour...  Wait a sec, these aren't Inks' IEM, if James wants you part of the tour, he should have the right to, they are his IEMs. 

 

The only people that Inks really likes are the ones that agree with him...  Um...  Yeah...

 

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Originally Posted by maguire View Post

Damn ....Hifiman always has had issues with its  cables, you would think it would be a simple fix.....surely

 

Read below, it seems that they have sorted out the issue (hopefully for good too ;) ). 

 

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Originally Posted by hifiman-us View Post

Thank you for the compliment. HiFiMAN has very dedicated customer service people in China as well as our U.S facility in Delaware. Nothing is ever perfect so we do our best to take care of our customers. 

 

Peter

post #1646 of 2521
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

 

OK, so just because Inks doesn't like you, and there are a lot of people he doesn't like (and a lot that return the favor), you don't get on the tour...  Wait a sec, these aren't Inks' IEM, if James wants you part of the tour, he should have the right to, they are his IEMs. 

 

He said Inks is organizing the tour. Even though I did not agree with his comments before trying out the earphone, he's still fully in position to decide who may participate.

 

Let's drop this and wait to see who gets this opportunity and hear their voices. smily_headphones1.gif

post #1647 of 2521
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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

OK, so just because Inks doesn't like you, and there are a lot of people he doesn't like (and a lot that return the favor), you don't get on the tour...  Wait a sec, these aren't Inks' IEM, if James wants you part of the tour, he should have the right to, they are his IEMs. 

The only people that Inks really likes are the ones that agree with him...  Um...  Yeah...


Read below, it seems that they have sorted out the issue (hopefully for good too wink.gif ). 

Lol good old Tinyman and his assumptions at this point I hope you know I don't care about what you have to say. You must really like my attention, you are always so provocative. People who I loaned stuff to can disagree with whatever I say as long as it doesn't cross the line to level of disrespect. I'm not in best terms with Eke but I at least know he has some level of respect though its hard for me to tell at times lol, thus he's in the TFRM tour.

I'm organizing the tour, most are welcomed as long as there are enough references to make you trustworthy and you have shown some level of respect (luckily only 1-2 people have not done the latter).

This is OT, so ill be making its own thread soon.
post #1648 of 2521

You're one to talk about (dis)respect.

 

I'm actually glad you're doing this tour. It's a great way to make amends for the community after creating so much grief on at least 3 threads. As a result, I do now have some semblance of respect for you, not that I think it should matter to you. Looking forward to reading some of the impressions you'll be responsible for instigating. Well done, Inks. ;)

post #1649 of 2521
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Originally Posted by tigon_ridge View Post

The message I received just now:

 

"I'm afraid, you seem to have some personal feud with Inks, and since he'll be organizing the tour, I can't get you in.

 

The only way I'd see is to contact him directly and sort things out, then I'd of course be ok with it too."

 

LOL Thanks for the generous offer anyway, buddy.

 

Look, I have nothing against you. Heck, I don't even know you.

 

I wished you'd have followed my suggestion and tried to straighten things out with him, instead of posting a private message in a public thread.

 

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Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post

OK, so just because Inks doesn't like you, and there are a lot of people he doesn't like (and a lot that return the favor), you don't get on the tour...  Wait a sec, these aren't Inks' IEM, if James wants you part of the tour, he should have the right to, they are his IEMs. 

 

The only people that Inks really likes are the ones that agree with him...  Um...  Yeah...

 

I want everybody in who's interested, but wouldn't you agree that the tour organizer is entitled to have the last word? Right now I have 9 of my IEMs on 4 different loan tours, and I simply don't have enough enough spare time to organize everything myself.

 

I don't really like to discuss other people publicly, but suffice to say that in my experience, Inks has proven to be an honest and reliable fellow member. No, I don't agree with his dogmatic approach to things, and yes, I would chip in to fund a semester or two of charm school for him wink.gif ... but joking aside, all of us have their pluses and minuses, and if life has taught me one thing, then it's you gotta try to be tolerant and get along with your fellow men.

 

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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

He said Inks is organizing the tour. Even though I did not agree with his comments before trying out the earphone, he's still fully in position to decide who may participate.

 

Let's drop this and wait to see who gets this opportunity and hear their voices. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Amen to that. smile_phones.gif

post #1650 of 2521
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Originally Posted by Inks View Post

Honestly, after seeing RE600s graph, it seems like such a ripoff, might as well get a RE400. I had already suspected little change [same housing/same driver], but this is even less than RE272 to RE262 which were also quite close. RE600 has less treble than RE400, oh boy...

 

Thanks for the info.

 

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Originally Posted by HiFlight View Post


Not only does everyone hear differently, one must also keep in mind that frequency response graphs only measure the amplitude of a swept sinewave. They do not imply anything in regard to tonality, timbre, etc. It is possible, in fact very likely, that two different headphones that 1. "measure" identical frequency response curves will sound totally different when reproducing music.

 

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Originally Posted by higbvuyb View Post

2. Other than phase, FR and the time domain together hold all of the information of the the sound wave. Considering that earphones have much shorter decay times than actual instruments and that it is far harder to detect these time domain variations, the major difference is made by FR.

 

1.  That's interesting which identical FR results sound totally different if you can name some?

 

2.  Are you sure?

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