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Objective2 amp/dac or Matrix M-stage amp/dac

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Both of these amplifier/DAC combos are identical in price here in blighty, and from looking at an older thread comparing the amplifier of the two, opinions were mixed, I'm wondering if anyone has compared the amp/dac versions of these devices.

 

The Matrix M-stage looks to more convenient for desk use, power input on the rear, 6.3mm native support for my headphones (In which 80% of them are 6.3mm), large and heavy which believe it or not, is an advantage for me. However the Objective2 amp/dac looks to have more of a black background, neutral response, but without being able to audition them, it's a tricky decision. 

 

My favourite part of the music is the mids/vocals, and I've heard the Objective2 can really butcher the mids (Headfonia review and other personal opinions) which worries me quite a bit.

This is purely for desk use only, the battery usage on the Objective2 doesn't interest me at all.

 

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Edited by eltocliousus - 10/20/12 at 2:20pm
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The Matrix M-stage looks to more convenient for desk use, power input on the rear, 6.3mm native support for my headphones (In which 80% of them are 6.3mm), large and heavy which believe it or not, is an advantage for me.

 

And RCA inputs (plus a second RCA pair or USB for an internal DAC) and the inputs are switchable. That's what sold me on the M-Stage. I don't think those were the proper criteria for selecting an amp.

 


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However the Objective2 amp/dac looks to have more of a black background, neutral response

 

 

That's what it was designed to do. Its measurements demonstrate that it achieves the goal.


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My favourite part of the music is the mids/vocals, and I've heard the Objective2 can really butcher the mids (Headfonia review and other personal opinions) which worries me quite a bit.

 

It wouldn't worry me at all. I think those claims are unlikely to be true. The O2 is a neutral amp and neutral amps not only don't butcher sounds, they don't color them audibly. Everybody, everywhere, has an opinion about headphones and amps. Most opinions, with the exception of my opinions, are useless.

 


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This is purely for desk use only, the battery usage on the Objective2 doesn't interest me at all.

 

The O2+ODAC combo requires A/C (IIRC). I also wanted A/C for my amp.

 

post #3 of 7

I just had an hour listening session with my O2/ODAC combo with my HD800. Not as great as it is with my WA6SE, but nonetheless a very easy, smooth and enjoyable listening experience. I don't hear any of this butchering of the mids at all, and as a matter of fact, I'd call it one of its strengths.

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Thankyou for the replies, I think the O2+ODAC may be a better purchase overall, what with it being completely neutral, the DAC in the ODAC seems to be of higher quality than the M-stage too which is a benefit, it's a shame the O2+ODAC is so small however, I've heard people complain about the unit moving around and lifting up when headphones are plugged into it, which worries me slightly. A lot of mixed opinions on the O2+ODAC however, NwAvGuy's writing seem to split the community that way, which is a little worrying. 

 

It's only the aesthetics and usability of the M-stage which draws me to it, but as utilitarian purchase, the O2+ODAC looks to be the better option.

 

Although to add, does anyone have experience with the M-Stage amp/dac when it comes to black background noise? I had a little dot MK II for a time and it hissed quite a bit at any volume on all of my headphones, I couldn't hear it when music was playing but from a peace of mind point of view, I still knew it was there, I've been reading that the O2+ODAC is exceptional in this regard, how does the M-stage compete?


Edited by eltocliousus - 10/21/12 at 3:15am
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I only have experience with the standard M-Stage v2 which doesn't have a dac inside it. It didn't cause any noises in the outputs for me. When people don't agree with NwAvguys writing of course it gonna split the community. People shouldn't expected to agree since every one will have a different opinion and their opinion will not match NwAvguys opinion..


Edited by genclaymore - 10/23/12 at 8:52am
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I would get the objective 2 but i dont like the ergonomics of it. Having the power cord and input on the front is annoying. Silly I know. I was in the same position choosing between these two amps, finally settled on the matrix m-stage. Never looked back biggrin.gif

post #7 of 7

Both amps have their weak and strong points. I liked the M-stage amp section, but the dac performance is not up to par.

 

In this aspect the Odac gets my vote.  

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