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post #16 of 20

http://www.oaktreevintage.com/Stereo_Receivers.htm

 

Much of the specs you asked for on many different models.

post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by Chris J View Post

Vintage gear:

dirty scratchy pots

dirty noisy selector switches

dirty, corroded input and output jacks

they are very large when compared to a wee little dedicated headphone amp


All of that becomes a non issue with a can of deoxite. It works great and has never failed when it comes to pots, switches, and output jacks. I'll give you the comment on the size factor, especially when you go totl. But thankfully for me, size is not a factor. And imo they just look sooo cool. Vintage gear isn't for everyone, but there's a reason my vintage thread is over 400 pages long with over 6,000 posts. And some highly respected members here have taken ownership of a vintage amp/receiver since I've created that thread. So at the very least, there must be something to it.L3000.gif
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All of that becomes a non issue with a can of deoxite. It works great and has never failed when it comes to pots, switches, and output jacks. I'll give you the comment on the size factor, especially when you go totl. But thankfully for me, size is not a factor. And imo they just look sooo cool. Vintage gear isn't for everyone, but there's a reason my vintage thread is over 400 pages long with over 6,000 posts. And some highly respected members here have taken ownership of a vintage amp/receiver since I've created that thread. So at the very least, there must be something to it.L3000.gif

 



I'm gonna have to give you a +1 on that, because i'm not too lazy to maintain my stuff, and size doesn't really matter to me. The bigger the better I say.

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I'm gonna have to give you a +1 on that, because i'm not too lazy to maintain my stuff, and size doesn't really matter to me. The bigger the better I say.



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Originally Posted by moodyrn View Post

Another thing about the vintage receivers/integrateds are the fact the manufacturers were in a race to build the biggest, baddest, best sounding component money can build. This often resulted in receivers being over build(the reason why a lot 30+ year old gear is still pumping strong today). The totl stuff weighs anywhere from 50-100lbs and have massive trannies, dual power supplies and are discrete designs with no generic or cheap part. I like vintage gear because it allows me to have an amp for every pair of headphones I have, and each amp can go toe to toe with multi-thousand dollar headphones amps(trust me, I've already tried and tested that theory). So instead of investing thousands in a flagship amp to use with all of my cans, I now can have a highend headphone rig in each room in my house(well most of them).

That's something I couldn't afford to do with modern dedicated headphone amps. I would have to go the route of one highend amp followed by a few budget to midtier amps for my other setups. Now when I go from room to room, I don't lose a drop of performance. Unfortunately, the rule hasn't applied when it comes to sources though. I know there are vintage source lovers out there, but I have too many highrez files to be limited to 16/44.1. But vintage gear has it's flaws. First, know what you are getting. Sometimes it can cost more to repair something than what you paid for it, so make sure that what you are getting has either been refurbished or in at least mint condition. But even if it has to be completely refurbished, the performance you'll be getting will still greatly outweigh the investment.


 I totally agree with your assessment of these old vintage monster receivers. I purchased a recapped and cleaned up monster receiver about six months back. Since it has broken in and is sounding quite spectacular. The available power is such that it would easily power the most difficult to drive headphones that are being made today. Your assessment of the comparison with todays high end esoteric dedicated headphone amps is right on the money. These old monsters seem to have endless power reserves for headphones. For one I have never heard my akg 701s sounding so impressive in the bass .I have read a lot of criticism relating to the bass on the akg 701. Believe me it is definitely not an issue with these old monsters. It is these modern amps that are the problem they just do not have the headroom to produce sufficient bass.

   While some of the rarer high end vintage receivers are commanding substantial prices these days. If you are patient and spend a little time you can land one at a not unreasonable price.

Good hunting.

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