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post #931 of 3521
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Originally Posted by GermanGuy View Post

i think i start to get ill, infected by the tube rolling virus, so here are some very preliminary impressions:

 

valvo df91 - valvo dl92:

 

if the lorenz - philips set is homogenous, this set is analytical like listening with a magnifier glass used to see every and i mean every detail, less bass and bass texture, not so relaxing to listen to, really pronouncing the highs up to a level near to call the sound harsh, but with absolutly precise not to say hard attack. could be a great set for warmer sounding or how to say slower headphones. slighty miss soundstage depth, but no burn in time for the tubes.

 

valvo df91- philips dl92:

 

sound stage depth is back, also the bass weight, but not the perfect match and magic as when listening to the lorenz - philips combo. not pronouncing the highs as much as the valvo - valvo combo, but adding some nice sparkle to the highs, worth a try.

 

lorenz df91 - lorenz dl92:

 

interestingly pronouncing the bass more than the other combos but at the same time sounding unprecise (the word bass porridge came in my mind). not recommended.

 

back to lorenz df91 - philips dl92:

 

all the magic is back, you stop thinking and start listening. can't really explain it completely with words, but up to now this for me is the dream set made in heaven.

 

p.s. please be sure that i will not stop looking for lorenz tubes until found them!

kcee - posted this earlier.


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/13/13 at 3:23pm
post #932 of 3521
Quickly, as I have precious little listening much less reading time.

GG, love the photos!! Nice!

Even happier to learn you like the valvos. I have a pair and will try them ASAP.

Apologies to all regarding lack of impressions. I have had a paucity of listening time this weekend, much to my dismay.
post #933 of 3521
No worries, I am just sorry your so busy, it must be frustrating not being able to listen, hopefully soon you will get to have a nice long listen!
post #934 of 3521

Well, due to lack of listening time, I have had to go out of order from my initial listing of 5 albums to break in the 05.

 

Having said that, it has been quite a learning experience.

 

First of all, Ian is right, the upgraded volume pot is phenomenal. The only other volume controller that is this transparent (that I have heard), resides in my NAD m51.

 

Secondly. This amp has a black, black background. Period.

 

Thirdly. Even with the tubes, this amp extracts details that makes poor recordings sound as such.

 

Fourthly, with the right music and the right source... in GG's words: WOW!!

post #935 of 3521

One last word before I spend some more time with the combo: Tera + 05 + Kaede, goodness. Seriously.

post #936 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

No worries, I am just sorry your so busy, it must be frustrating not being able to listen, hopefully soon you will get to have a nice long listen!

 

Enjoying a two hour hiatus of audio bliss.

 

Ian, I truly thank you for keeping (your) thread alive. This is a remarkable piece of equipment. I can tell that I will be enjoying it for years to come. ( even if I never aquire a pair of Lorenz:) ).

post #937 of 3521

I will try and stop 'gushing' soon. Detail retrieval is f***ing 'off the charts'. I have had so much fun the last few hours.... just love it!!

 

(this is no newbie bs. it's the 'real deal')

post #938 of 3521
I am just so happy that others such as yourself are now experiencing this amp. The detail as you say is so off the charts, amazing that an amp with such levels of detail retrieval can be so rich and musical at the same time. Also,such a dark background as you say!

I hope others get a chance to listen to Nagra Tube equipment as I feel the TU-05 and Nagra's have so many similar traits I feel.
post #939 of 3521
Maybe it will work well with the DT48...
post #940 of 3521
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Originally Posted by CJG888 View Post

Maybe it will work well with the DT48...

I don't know the 48's but I know my T5P's love it!
post #941 of 3521
The DT48 was Beyer's first stereo headphone, and I think (please correct me if I'm wrong) one of the first dynamic headphones in mass production anywhere in the world. It was designed to work with low-power valve equipment, is easy to drive and has a flat response and good detail retrieval (even if dynamics and frequency extremes are curtailed).

I nearly bought a pair last year (waited too long, alas). Second-hand, they are not expensive.

Nagra used to sell a re-badged version with their open-reel decks.
post #942 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

I just thought, your in Japan, there the tube is known as the 1T4SF so have a local search for that.. Perhaps you will come across a hidden stash of "TEN" tubes which are meant to sound wonderful Japanese made tubes!
I bought 2xNEC instead as the shop only had 1xTEN. I hold the 1T4TSF is compatible? Also bought 2xTelefuken.
post #943 of 3521
I just went back to my messages on FB with Shikada San and he says in Japan the 1T4TSF is the same as the European 1T4T..



"One of my owner (user of 1T4 SF) Say, It seems same and battery life became longer."

I am really interested in hearing what the NEC's sound like, Looking at GG's comments about his Tele's I think they may be a great match for the 06' as well.

Hopefully you can find a pair of "Ten's" I am intrigued to hear what they are like as Shikada San says they sound great with the amp!
I wonder how long it will be before your amp is delivered, I would imagine you will be one of, if not the first customer of the 06'!
post #944 of 3521

just woke up so an (early) good morning from germany. as i am typing, it's 7:30 am here. often and so also today i start the (weekend) day with listening to some music as the first action of the day, only preparing some coffee before. i do this because your brain and ears are absolutely free and open, fresh and ready, i usually use this time to prove my listening experience of the last day, whether this is a grado mod or now a dream amp - tube combo. 

 

up to now i used the short interconnect part of the vorzüge amp duo to connect amp and player.

 

but i now switched to the interconnect i made with the axmann 4 wire single core pure silver axion iii cable.

 

wow. using this interconnect for the music is like wiping and cleaning a former dirty window, it cleans up the whole spectrum, the effortless sweetnees and beautiful sound is even more remarkable now.

 

p.s. to understand why i can use this cable as interconnect where before i mentioned to have it used as headphone cable is easy. for my grado mods to test different cables i made a prototype headphone cable only from the drivers to the y split but replaced the y split by a 3.5 mm female stereo jack, so i can test any cable and later also use it as interconnect.

 

p.s. (2) i switched to another interconnect i made out of a piece of grado 8 wire headphone cable. this cable also has this 'swinging sound' property,  instruments seem to be slightly larger, using this cable is like using a magnifier glass for each single instrument and then putting everything together again to one large sound picture. this cable is not the last word in pin point imaging and localisation but outstanding in presenting and extracting how the instruments interact with each other, resonances, echoes, vibrations, it gives an overwhelming feeling for the space.


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/13/13 at 11:25pm
post #945 of 3521
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

I just went back to my messages on FB with Shikada San and he says in Japan the 1T4TSF is the same as the European 1T4T..



"One of my owner (user of 1T4 SF) Say, It seems same and battery life became longer."

I am really interested in hearing what the NEC's sound like, Looking at GG's comments about his Tele's I think they may be a great match for the 06' as well.

Hopefully you can find a pair of "Ten's" I am intrigued to hear what they are like as Shikada San says they sound great with the amp!
I wonder how long it will be before your amp is delivered, I would imagine you will be one of, if not the first customer of the 06'!
The Tens were the same price as the NECs. Dunno if they sound the same. I was told the SF is wound (there's winding?) at 1/2 the length of the US 1T4(?) so battery lasts longer. I know -nothing- about tubes but just regurgitating what I was told.
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