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post #886 of 3489

i think i start to get ill, infected by the tube rolling virus, so here are some very preliminary impressions:

 

valvo df91 - valvo dl92:

 

if the lorenz - philips set is homogenous, this set is analytical like listening with a magnifier glass used to see every and i mean every detail, less bass and bass texture, not so relaxing to listen to, really pronouncing the highs up to a level near to call the sound harsh, but with absolutly precise not to say hard attack. could be a great set for warmer sounding or how to say slower headphones. slighty miss soundstage depth, but no burn in time for the tubes.

 

valvo df91- philips dl92:

 

sound stage depth is back, also the bass weight, but not the perfect match and magic as when listening to the lorenz - philips combo. not pronouncing the highs as much as the valvo - valvo combo, but adding some nice sparkle to the highs, worth a try.

 

lorenz df91 - lorenz dl92:

 

interestingly pronouncing the bass more than the other combos but at the same time sounding unprecise (the word bass porridge came in my mind). not recommended.

 

back to lorenz df91 - philips dl92:

 

all the magic is back, you stop thinking and start listening. can't really explain it completely with words, but up to now this for me is the dream set made in heaven.

 

p.s. please be sure that i will not stop looking for lorenz tubes until found them!


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/12/13 at 2:20pm
post #887 of 3489
GG, this is wonderful, its not just my hearing, your saying exactly how I feel about the sonic traits of these tubes!

German tubes have so much air and clarity and I feel that combining that with a slightly warmer tube really gives one a whole picture.

I find and would love to see if you have this experience as well that the heavier sounding tubes suite the 3S4 stage and the lighter, airy tubes the 1T4 stage but strangely I find not in reverse.

Sadly though this confirms what I feel about the Lorenz, sadly i say as they are like hens teeth!

However, if you can get your hands on the Mil-spec Sylvania's I would love to hear your thoughts as I feel they are pretty much identical to the Lorenz's!

In fact I would say that from listening I cannot tell the all Mil-spec Sylvania line up apart from the Lorenz/Phillips line up
Edited by ianmedium - 7/12/13 at 2:34pm
post #888 of 3489

yes - found the same - tomorrow (okay, only half an hour left) i will try the valvo df91 - lorenz dl92 combo, i have the feeling that the analytical valvo together with the soft, bass pronouncing lorenz could be an interesting combination.

 

p.s i always lets say hope that my limited english vocabulary is nevertheless good enough to get my impressions correctly transported to you, the readers!


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/12/13 at 2:38pm
post #889 of 3489
I am very much looking forward to hearing that as I do not have the Lorenz DL92's

I am also looking forward to your thoughts on the Telefunkens as I had a not good experience with my pair, very dry sounding!

I am so grateful to you for all your comments so far. No longer am I a lone voice in the wilderness and I am so happy that my hearing is not weird or off as your hearing the same as me!

Very much looking forward to woodcans thoughts, I am so looking forward to this weekend as we will be sharing so much here, Yay!! biggrin.gif

You know, I might dust of the Tele's and try them with the Sylvanias!
post #890 of 3489

Just a quick note, I'll have to catch up on all of the recent posts in this thread later. First, Ian, your photos are just great!! I love tubes and you dedication, attention to detail, and admiration really shows through your pics and descriptions. 

 

I have my amp and it is charging. One question, can you change tubes while it's charging? I hope to have time to listen as soon as it is charged but peripheral obligations might prevent that.

 

GG, your impressions are really whetting my appetite!

post #891 of 3489
Hi woodcans, I would not change tubes with the power connected as even thought the current is off it still may short out!
So looking forward to your thoughts! BTW, you can listen with it plugged in!
post #892 of 3489

ianmedium - could be dangerous being in the wilderness while being the two and only owners of a lorenz df91 tube set up to nowsmile.gif

post #893 of 3489
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Originally Posted by GermanGuy View Post

ianmedium - could be dangerous being in the wilderness while being the two and only owners of a lorenz df91 tube set up to now:smile:

I know, I think a strong box is in order biggrin.gif

OK, giving the Tele's one last try!
Edited by ianmedium - 7/12/13 at 2:52pm
post #894 of 3489
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Originally Posted by woodcans View Post

Just a quick note, I'll have to catch up on all of the recent posts in this thread later. First, Ian, your photos are just great!! I love tubes and you dedication, attention to detail, and admiration really shows through your pics and descriptions. 

 

I have my amp and it is charging. One question, can you change tubes while it's charging? I hope to have time to listen as soon as it is charged but peripheral obligations might prevent that.

 

GG, your impressions are really whetting my appetite!


when and as the tubes are not glowing (i assume the power switch to be in the 'off' position) i see no problem.

post #895 of 3489

Is this the philips dl 92 you guys are talking about ?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DL92-DL-92-3S4-PHILIPS-NOS-NEW-OWN-BOX-/370837785747?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item5657a78c93

post #896 of 3489
yep, those are they!
post #897 of 3489
Just tried the Tele's again and though they were not as bad as I remember they still sound dry and lifeless compared to the Sylvania 3S4's they replaced. So the Syl's are back in and this weekend will be all American for me. I am really impressed how these mil-spec Sylvania's sound the same as the Lorenz/Phillips set up, So far I simply cannot tell the difference which gives hope for those who want Lorenz's but cannot get them!
post #898 of 3489

About to plug in Sylvania mil spec IT4 and Siemens 3s4 for first listen, assuming it finishes charging soon.

post #899 of 3489
woodcans, what other 3S4's do you have?
post #900 of 3489
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Originally Posted by ianmedium View Post

yep, those are they!


so you and german guy both think the lorenz df91, philips dl92 combo is kind of a sweet spot ?

 

not that i am trying to poach your guys' opinions and take them as gospel, everyone's got different ears and components etc. i know.

 

it's just there are alot of tubes talked about. some kind of consensus would be nice especially with more people getting their amps now.

 

my plan is to try the stock tubes for a while first. it would be nice to have a few specific combos that multiple people agree on to keep an eye out for is all.

 

i have plenty of time to round up a couple sets before it arrives which it sounds like is September now.

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