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There is only one conclusion: this thread attracts extraordinarily intelligent folk.

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Yay, my new Kimber interconnect is shown as out for delivery, can't wait to hear what it does for my set up.

Woodcans, I agree, some very intelligent folks around here on this thread, I think I am going to have to go to night school to catch up!
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today i bought the wood disks

 

 

and foam rubber

 

 

 

for the cleaning kits!

 

i just had the idea if one or another of you could take the responsibility to within his country send the cleaning kits to other members in the same country by just posting for which country he (no she here?!)  would act as 'central post office and distributor'. would really lower my effort with all these addresses and customs declarations!

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Originally Posted by GermanGuy View Post

today i bought the wood disks

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

and foam rubber

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

for the cleaning kits!

 

i just had the idea if one or another of you could take the responsibility to within his country send the cleaning kits to other members in the same country by just posting for which country he (no she here?!)  would act as 'central post office and distributor'. would really lower my effort with all these addresses and customs declarations!

 

 

I am willing to do so for the U.S., as long as the volume doesn't get too crazy.

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GermanGuy,

I'm happy to cover UK distribution.

I do think though that cleaning kit recipients should cover your costs, or at the very least make a small donation to your favourite charity.

Cheers,
Andy.

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Originally Posted by GermanGuy View Post

today i bought the wood disks




and foam rubber





for the cleaning kits!

i just had the idea if one or another of you could take the responsibility to within his country send the cleaning kits to other members in the same country by just posting for which country he (no she here?!)  would act as 'central post office and distributor'. would really lower my effort with all these addresses and customs declarations!
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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

GermanGuy,

I'm happy to cover UK distribution.

I do think though that cleaning kit recipients should cover your costs, or at the very least make a small donation to your favourite charity.

Cheers,
Andy.

 

 

I agree, I just assumed as much.

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i did some additional tests around cleaning and gold plating the tube pins.

 

just to summarize the cleaning process and cleaning kit provides the best result. i tried some different methods, for example cleaning the pins with 'corega tabs' or ' kukident', that 'clean your third teeth stuff', also coffee powder 'espresso' instead of sand, felt disks to polish, .... no better result.

 

i made a new tool for gold plating the pins. i used some white board magnets not because of the magnets but the stainless steel body around (you need stainless steel as electrode for gold plating):

 

 

i used the stainless steel body as very small tub for the gold electrolyte, but at the same time it can also be used as electrode! . to connect it to the power supply i used some thick aluminium foil and isolated the top and the inner bottom with some tape, the not taped area in the middle is sensefull to also have enough current flow for plating the inner side of the pins:

 

 

to connect the tube pins to ground, in the first test i used the same aluminium foil as can be seen in the picture above.

 

 

 

i then used silver wire instead of aluminium foil for the same purpose for a second test.

 

 

 

here you can see the result of some minutes of gold plating with the aluminium foil (you see the pins are not fully plated) and the silver wire around the pins for the second test.

 

 

 

the main benefit is that you can very easily place the tube in the middle and due to the small distances and the ring electrode the electric field is much stronger, symmetrical and homogenous, so resulting in much more homogenous plated pins. also you need much less gold electrolyte to fill it.

 

this is the result after some final cleaning:

 

 

 

as a summary it can be done to gold plate the pins with acceptable result, but at the moment i am not sure (maybe i'm a litte tired after a hard working week) if it is worth all the effort as now cleaning is so easy and from time to time can be done again.


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/5/13 at 12:50pm
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to all - regarding the cost: a cleaning kit is just 50 cent, so providing a maximum of maybe 15 cleaning kits to max. 5 countries incl. shipping cost (euro 4.95) is just about euro 32.50 .

 

and thinking of all the effort and cost for bank transfers mad.gif it would be more than enough smile.gif to get invited to one or two beer beerchug.gif when we hopefully meet during next years munich high end, and even that would be absolutely not nessesary or expected (but highly appreciated)atsmile.gif.

 

p.s. when it comes to sending tubes to one or another here (as long as only one or two ones) i tought of something similar ( i.e. instead paying me giving some money to a charity organisation) (just looked for the translation of charity).

 

as it is always a good idea to donate and there are a lot of  families and children missing so much please feel absolutely free to make a small donation to any charity organisation taking care of children.


Edited by GermanGuy - 7/5/13 at 1:03pm
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GG, firstly, I am with woodcans and Andy, if anyone in Canada wants them I am happy to send them out also I think at the very least to pay for shipping to you is fitting, thank you so much for doing this. As to the tubes I know I would like to have a pair from you but would feel better paying you for them as it cost you money in the first place! At the very least think of the payment as a way for you to buy more tubes!

On another note, got my Kimber Kable and whilst I find cables a worthwhile improvement I have never found them to be earth great differences, I may have to amend that now! In a very short listen with one of my test tracks the sound is very much improved over the Cardas. More natural easy feeling, more open, deeper tighter bass and more fluid top end. Downsides are that it is a thick cable and not at all flexible and the jacks stick out but that does not bother me as I sit in one place when I listen. Nice to note they use Switchcraft jacks so they have not spared expense on this cable. Very very impressed with it and great synergy to the amp!
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GG, firstly, I am with woodcans and Andy, if anyone in Canada wants them I am happy to send them out also I think at the very least to pay for shipping to you is fitting, thank you so much for doing this. As to the tubes I know I would like to have a pair from you but would feel better paying you for them as it cost you money in the first place! At the very least think of the payment as a way for you to buy more tubes!


agreed!

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GermanGuy,

You sir are a gentleman, innovative thermionic genius and a fellow that I'd be honoured to quaff a few beers with. So when we all meet in Munich for the inaugural owners soirée, I'll gladly purchase a few beers to lubricate your palate.

Now gentleman, let us not become fixated on tube rolling, acquiring the hallowed XYZ of NOS bewilderment, nor thinking that the next valve will be revelatory. Because it will NOT, yes different valves (tubes) influence the amps sonics, BUT it is a 10-15% attributable difference at best, so my friends don't become consumed by tube mania and enjoy the music.

Cheers,
Andy.
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you are so right but in a specific way it fills the gap until i got my amp!

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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

GermanGuy,

You sir are a gentleman, innovative thermionic genius and a fellow that I'd be honoured to quaff a few beers with. So when we all meet in Munich for the inaugural owners soirée, I'll gladly purchase a few beers to lubricate your palate.

Now gentleman, let us not become fixated on tube rolling, acquiring the hallowed XYZ of NOS bewilderment, nor thinking that the next valve will be revelatory. Because it will NOT, yes different valves (tubes) influence the amps sonics, BUT it is a 10-15% attributable difference at best, so my friends don't become consumed by tube mania and enjoy the music.

Cheers,
Andy.

 

 

I won't be able to make it to Munich, but if you are ever in my neck of the woods, GG, I'll certainly foot the bill for a nice trip to the pub.

 

Agreed on the tube rolling. I have enough to keep me busy. No Lorenz, but I'm happy with what I have, and special thanks to Ian & GG for that.


Edited by woodcans - 7/5/13 at 2:07pm
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Indeed it does and valve accumulation is a nice and benign hobby to have - unless of course you're ianmedium who has a serious addiction to the thermionic things! Apparently ianmedium has 65.453% of the global supply of Lorenz tubes stashed in his thermonuclear bunker!

I have contacted MI6 and an agent is en route to liberate said valves. wink.gif

Cheers,
Andy.

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you are so right but in a specific way it fills the gap until i got my amp!

Edited by smial1966 - 7/5/13 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by smial1966 View Post

Indeed it does and valve accumulation is a nice and benign hobby to have - unless of course you're ianmedium who has a serious addiction to the thermionic things! Apparently ianmedium has 65.453% of the global supply of Lorenz tubes stashed in his thermonuclear bunker!

I have contacted MI6 and an agent is en route to liberate said valves. wink.gif

Cheers,
Andy.

 

 

Thank you! It's about time someone is taking action against such injustice. etysmile.gif

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