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Poll Results: Are newbies more subjected to "Burn-in"?

 
  • 66% (14)
    Yes
  • 33% (7)
    No
21 Total Votes  
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Golila3 View Post

I always thought the burn-in thing as a Adapting to a headphone mentally, but I think I am starting to change my perspective now. The first time I heard a song from my Grado PS 500s sounded drastically different from how it sounds now. Same thing happened to my friend's HD800s. I heard it the first day he got it and it just sounds disturbingly bright, but now that brightness seems a lot more subtle.

 

That still sounds like getting used to them.  AD700 actually has an appreciable amount of bass to me now that I've spent time away from my hifimans for near two months.

post #17 of 27

What's the verdict on BA (balanced armature) "burn-in"? I've seen some people post some drastic FR changes for BA IEMs. Is there any reason why a BA would be more effected by burn-in than an dynamic driver? Possibly an issue with the multi-way crossovers of the BA IEMs?
 

post #18 of 27

If anything, they should be subjected to less. IEM's in general shouldn't have much at all, generally speaking, but the mechanism of BA's wouldn't be subject to the same kind of loosening as a dynamic driver's membrane. Most "burn in" with headphones at all seems to be related to the pads softening/changing over time. Something IEM's are not subject to. 


Edited by liamstrain - 10/21/12 at 4:05pm
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

 

That still sounds like getting used to them.  

 

Well.. maybe I didn't explain my point well enough. I only heard his HD800 twice, the first time was when he just got it and the second time was a few weeks after the first.

 

Anyways, I think there seriously is no bad thing about believing in burn-in. It doesn't cost extra money or anything ^_^

post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Golila3 View Post

 

Anyways, I think there seriously is no bad thing about believing in burn-in. It doesn't cost extra money or anything ^_^

 

It can, if you hold onto something you don't like past the return period, hoping it will burn in. 

 

Nothing good comes from believing (and perpetuating) untrue things. It hurts the industry as a whole - even if only our credibility.

post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by liamstrain View Post

 

It can, if you hold onto something you don't like past the return period, hoping it will burn in. 

 

Nothing good comes from believing (and perpetuating) untrue things. It hurts the industry as a whole - even if only our credibility.

 

True, some people already consider audiophiles as "headphone freaks", if were talking about something untrue all the time, it'll just make it worse. Don't know bout the return period thing though, usually the return period is 14 days to a month on the internet so I guess that's enough time to try the burn-in. 

 

By the way... How do I change my profile pic?

post #22 of 27

I'm still in my old question about all this : why burn-in? Shouldn't it be break-in? The surrounds on a dynamic driver for example are mechanical, and that's the term we use on new cars or rebuilt engines. Burn-in used to be what they describe as the cables and electronic hardware (the capacitors, mostly) performing "better" over time.

post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by Golila3 View Post

 

True, some people already consider audiophiles as "headphone freaks", if were talking about something untrue all the time, it'll just make it worse. Don't know bout the return period thing though, usually the return period is 14 days to a month on the internet so I guess that's enough time to try the burn-in. 

 

There are some headphones repeatedly and loudly given recommendations of 100+ hours of "burn in" unless you set up a rig specifically for that purpose, most people won't hit that in under 14 days. 

 

Ultimately - from the evidence I've seen, the few instances where it seems measurable, it's extremely subtle. Not worth specific mention, and especially not worth a recommendation as a matter of course. 

post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post

I'm still in my old question about all this : why burn-in? Shouldn't it be break-in? The surrounds on a dynamic driver for example are mechanical, and that's the term we use on new cars or rebuilt engines. Burn-in used to be what they describe as the cables and electronic hardware (the capacitors, mostly) performing "better" over time.

Just googled about the words... I still can't tell the difference. The only reason i'm calling it burn-in is that  burn-in sounds more like the Chinese term for "burn-in" I'm not sure if that matters though, (I guess it's like calling an iphone a galaxy or something, its certainly different, but many people won't bother correcting each other about it.)

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Originally Posted by liamstrain View Post

 

There are some headphones repeatedly and loudly given recommendations of 100+ hours of "burn in" unless you set up a rig specifically for that purpose, most people won't hit that in under 14 days. 

 

 

Not sure about not hitting 100+ hours being a problem. Got my Grados a 200 hour burn-in in 10 days.. The off-time is just to give my amp some time to rest. 

 

 


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Originally Posted by liamstrain View Post

 

 

Ultimately - from the evidence I've seen, the few instances where it seems measurable, it's extremely subtle. Not worth specific mention, and especially not worth a recommendation as a matter of course. 

 

I've came across a few of those before, from what the measurements shown, that seems to be the case. Can't argue anything about that except for the fact that I ,personally, still believe in the whole burn-in process.

 

By the way.... I still don't know how to change the damn profile pic! can someone tell me?

post #25 of 27

Profile Pic. Make sure you are logged in to the site. Click on "My Profile" near the top of the page in the task bar under the Head-Fi logo. Under your current photo click "Replace Avatar" and follow the instructions.
 

post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by Clarkmc2 View Post

Profile Pic. Make sure you are logged in to the site. Click on "My Profile" near the top of the page in the task bar under the Head-Fi logo. Under your current photo click "Replace Avatar" and follow the instructions.
 

Got that taken care of.. Thanks

post #27 of 27
In the past month I've received half a dozen different IEM's. Given them each a listen right away and then again after 100 hours 'burn in' - no change at all to any of the particular characteristics they have. This wasn't measured, it was subjective, however I'm quite happy and the myth is completely slain for me. I'd love it if someone capable of taking measurements would do so to prove this.
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