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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

^ LMAO why are we even discussing this again.

 

Ok OK i am going deaf if that makes you happy. L3000.gif Anywho i do agree that it is better to practice safe listening on lower volumes and on full blast, so i am more than aware of hearing loss. But these FXZ200s are hard to drive meng and so are those MH1Cs. And joker is not GOD so... he makes mistakes and forget stuff too, durrr!!!! tongue.gif

Sure. Say what you want; do what you want and believe what want. Unless your ipod at 75% volume sound like a normal conversation, you are losing hearing. Because my ipod at 75% volume is just blasting sound out of any IEM i've owned or own. If you want to be sarcastic and go in the wrong direction, be my guest. Like I care. Not my ears or my health. 

And you're facepalming, I'm really hoping that's for yourself because I don't see which part of my comment or thinking needs a facepalm.


Edited by Mini0510 - 6/13/13 at 6:52pm
post #2942 of 3204

It's been about two months since I got mine (FXZ200) and I agree. They are harder to drive than all the previous IEMs I've owned. I thought about returning them as I got a lot of noise and cracking bass past 65% on volume. Playing it through a different dap made me realize that my dap must not be giving it enough juice. I don't like playing music through a phone cause I don't trust it as it's main purpose is not a dap. But I will try it with my HTC One that's coming next weak. If it's giving the fhz200 more juice and if it gives a tolerable listen, then I wont go buy an mp3. I will consider buying an amp as it is a cheaper alternative than buying a whole new dap.

 

I will say I listen to music loudly than most people and I don't mind turning it up even if it damages my ears a little bit. It won't be a problem. Just turn it on a bit louder when I'm older :) If I go deaf, which I doubt I will, too bad I guess. Satisfaction pays off now. Having it loud enough is the only way I can enjoy and if I can't enjoy, I'd rather just not listen at all. But then that's not an option so...

 

Conclusion: They are harder to drive compared to others depending on what you're using as your dap. They do have a sensitivity under 100dB if you look up the spec sheet so I'm not surprised. Not many IEMs these days have a sensitivity below 100dB but this one does.

post #2943 of 3204

My FXZ100 are probably my most source-dependent IEMS, to the extent that they sometimes sound like crap and sometimes excellent. Different DAPS, cell phone, amped, unamped... They continue to give me trouble and I've considered selling them, but when it does work I love them.

post #2944 of 3204
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Originally Posted by jonyoo View Post

It's been about two months since I got mine (FXZ200) and I agree. They are harder to drive than all the previous IEMs I've owned. I thought about returning them as I got a lot of noise and cracking bass past 65% on volume. Playing it through a different dap made me realize that my dap must not be giving it enough juice. I don't like playing music through a phone cause I don't trust it as it's main purpose is not a dap. But I will try it with my HTC One that's coming next weak. If it's giving the fhz200 more juice and if it gives a tolerable listen, then I wont go buy an mp3. I will consider buying an amp as it is a cheaper alternative than buying a whole new dap.

 

I will say I listen to music loudly than most people and I don't mind turning it up even if it damages my ears a little bit. It won't be a problem. Just turn it on a bit louder when I'm older :) If I go deaf, which I doubt I will, too bad I guess. Satisfaction pays off now. Having it loud enough is the only way I can enjoy and if I can't enjoy, I'd rather just not listen at all. But then that's not an option so...

 

Conclusion: They are harder to drive compared to others depending on what you're using as your dap. They do have a sensitivity under 100dB if you look up the spec sheet so I'm not surprised. Not many IEMs these days have a sensitivity below 100dB but this one does.

There should be no crackling at all. Your pair might be defective. Someone else here mentioned the same problem. Weird. 

post #2945 of 3204

That's only if I turn in up over 65% on my HTC Evo. It's fine when I play it through other daps.

 

Even crackled with an amp?

post #2946 of 3204
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post

My FXZ100 are probably my most source-dependent IEMS, to the extent that they sometimes sound like crap and sometimes excellent. Different DAPS, cell phone, amped, unamped... They continue to give me trouble and I've considered selling them, but when it does work I love them.

I strongly agree. Just have to stay consistent with the one it sounds best on cause it sounds pretty damn nice.

post #2947 of 3204
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


If you are listening to these under 75% on your ipods these FXZ200s are not properly driven. They do take a lot more power to drive than many iems, and these eat up battery like no other.

 

On my ipods i need at least mid 80% to lower 90% to get them to sound proper. They like to get juiced!!!

I have to put the FXZ200s and MH1Cs on 100% with my Galaxy Nexus. The FXZ200s are at the perfect volume, but the MH1Cs are still too quiet (IMO they REQUIRE an amp). And I listen to music at a lower volume than all my friends do.

post #2948 of 3204
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

I have to put the FXZ200s and MH1Cs on 100% with my Galaxy Nexus. The FXZ200s are at the perfect volume, but the MH1Cs are still too quiet (IMO they REQUIRE an amp). And I listen to music at a lower volume than all my friends do.


^ Thank you meng. beerchug.gif Even though the MH1Cs were made for phone use, they are pretty hard to drive, so Sony done goofed on them just like their horrid cable, etc. if only someone can help re-cable my set, sigh. angry_face.gif

post #2949 of 3204
Can these (FXZ200/100) get as loud as the GR07 BE? That would be my ideal max volume. I don't care about my hearing so dont bother admonishing lol. Another thing, can my iPod Touch 4th Gen. properly drive the JVC's?
post #2950 of 3204
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Originally Posted by jonyoo View Post

 

*Snip*

 

I will say I listen to music loudly than most people and I don't mind turning it up even if it damages my ears a little bit. It won't be a problem. Just turn it on a bit louder when I'm older :) If I go deaf, which I doubt I will, too bad I guess. Satisfaction pays off now. Having it loud enough is the only way I can enjoy and if I can't enjoy, I'd rather just not listen at all. But then that's not an option so...

 

Conclusion: They are harder to drive compared to others depending on what you're using as your dap. They do have a sensitivity under 100dB if you look up the spec sheet so I'm not surprised. Not many IEMs these days have a sensitivity below 100dB but this one does.

 

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Originally Posted by hi-fi amateur View Post

Can these (FXZ200/100) get as loud as the GR07 BE? That would be my ideal max volume. I don't care about my hearing so dont bother admonishing lol. Another thing, can my iPod Touch 4th Gen. properly drive the JVC's?

The thing is guys you think damaging your hearing mean you only lose sensitivity and need to turn it up more. There is another side to hearing damage that is far worse, and that is tinnitus! A constant ringing that NEVER goes away! I have it and I will never be able to experience complete silence again. Some days it causes the worst headaches. Try onlinetonegenerator.com and create a tone at about 10kHz and turn it up to about 5% on your volume control. Now imagine that tone, constantly ringing in your ear, day and night och you can't block it out with any earplugs. When I see statements like the ones above it makes me sad and a bit frustrated! You don't know what you've got until it's gone and silence is one of the most precious things there is!

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Yeah, how can a music fan say they don't care about their hearing...confused_face_2.gif

post #2952 of 3204
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Originally Posted by esmBOS View Post

 

The thing is guys you think damaging your hearing mean you only lose sensitivity and need to turn it up more. There is another side to hearing damage that is far worse, and that is tinnitus! A constant ringing that NEVER goes away! I have it and I will never be able to experience complete silence again. Some days it causes the worst headaches. Try onlinetonegenerator.com and create a tone at about 10kHz and turn it up to about 5% on your volume control. Now imagine that tone, constantly ringing in your ear, day and night och you can't block it out with any earplugs. When I see statements like the ones above it makes me sad and a bit frustrated! You don't know what you've got until it's gone and silence is one of the most precious things there is!

I made my declaration in jest, but yeah, I respect your opinion and understand what the consequences are.

post #2953 of 3204
Sorry to carry on about hearing rather than the FXZ200 , but I don't think anyone fully understands the consequences until they're actually dealing with them on a daily basis. But then again, none of us know what your life entails so we can't exactly comment with full understanding. It is still frustrating to those who have already made the mistakes that you're making and they simply can't understand why you would willingly do something like that to yourself with full awareness that you ARE throwing away your future ability to fully enjoy music or, as others have pointed out, silence.

I remember getting a drummer I used to jam with some musician's earplugs and telling him, " A musician who does not protect his hearing is like an artist who stares at the sun." He was, amusingly, amazed at how much more of his playing he could hear when he was protecting his ears than not.

But yeah... Back to these IEMs! I see sfwalcer is finally selling his despite the reportedly amazing sound after serious burn-in. Did mochill's Corecool V2s indeed dethrone them, sf? That's certainly sad for the FXZ with its triple drivers and giant enclosures, higher price, and non-removable cables. JVC gotta look into high-end features of they want to enter the high-end arena or else these smaller companies make them look foolish. Subs and CNT drivers just aren't enough anymore, JVC ;P.
post #2954 of 3204
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Originally Posted by hatefulsandwich View Post

Sorry to carry on about hearing rather than the FXZ200 , but I don't think anyone fully understands the consequences until they're actually dealing with them on a daily basis. But then again, none of us know what your life entails so we can't exactly comment with full understanding. It is still frustrating to those who have already made the mistakes that you're making and they simply can't understand why you would willingly do something like that to yourself with full awareness that you ARE throwing away your future ability to fully enjoy music or, as others have pointed out, silence.

I remember getting a drummer I used to jam with some musician's earplugs and telling him, " A musician who does not protect his hearing is like an artist who stares at the sun." He was, amusingly, amazed at how much more of his playing he could hear when he was protecting his ears than not.

But yeah... Back to these IEMs! I see sfwalcer is finally selling his despite the reportedly amazing sound after serious burn-in. Did mochill's Corecool V2s indeed dethrone them, sf? That's certainly sad for the FXZ with its triple drivers and giant enclosures, higher price, and non-removable cables. JVC gotta look into high-end features of they want to enter the high-end arena or else these smaller companies make them look foolish. Subs and CNT drivers just aren't enough anymore, JVC ;P.

I am tryin' to hype these up so i can re-sell them for $1 mili durrr!!!

 

Nah, actually these are still getting daily burn-in and their sound is still becoming more transparent, BUT as i stated in Dsnuts Discovery Thread those cheapo cools made me realized something; MASSIVE SOUNDSTAGE AND BIG BASS/SOUND is so addictive. L3000.gif Like i said numerous times, these Corecools has like 80-90% of the FXZ200s sound, but lacks a bit of refinement in the mids and extension in the highs. Also they have a soft boomy mid bass that ruins the overall quality of the sound/ bass for me but my vent filter mod completely addressed this problem.

 

.... the vents on the back of these Corecools is the key to their big bass

... this lil' vent on the back of the housing gives these Corecools the air flow that attributes to their amazing big bass, so when taped up completely the bass sound almost flat/ anemic. So depends what open filters you use to cover it, the bass quantity/ quality can be had at your will. With my simple mod as shown in the pic, that boomy mid bass which ruins the sound for me didn't just tighten up, but made the mid/ sub bass hit harder as well. Since the bass is cleaned up, this allows the mids and highs to sound more forward as well as creating a sound that has MASSIVE stage with deep sub bass just like these FXZ200s.

 

Long story short, are these Corecools better than the FXZ200s??? Nope they are not, BUT they made me realized that i love big soundstage with amazing sub/mid bass which the FXZ200 lacks (in soundstage that is). These FXZ200s have BIG SOUND, but they don't have a big soundstage unlike those Corecools. To me these cools sounds like an open back and even more transparent set of FXZ200s due to these attributes. They actually compliment each other very well, the FXZ200 is an amazing closed sub bass monster and the Corecools is a open one.

 

So yes sandwich dood i completely agree with you that despite all the new tech JVC has put into these FXZ200s, they are sadly not as amazing as the hype had made them out to be. They are a very good and competent set of bass iems but it's nothing really THAT special. This is what those cheapo Corecools made me realize. At the end of the day it's ALL about the sound so forget about the tech gimmicks, etcs. cuz a single driver iem can be just as good if not better than multi-driver ones, it's all in the skillful tuning.

post #2955 of 3204

Hey guys/girls.  esmBOS and lovefulsandwich are totally right.  Protect your hearing from yourself.  It is the only one that you have and you can not replace it by getting a new one at the hardware store.  I am so thankful for the technology that allows us to enjoy sound in a way never known before, that I value my hearing more than I would, if we did not have that technology.  In other words, my hearing contributes more to my happiness because it can do more for me now, than it could several centuries ago.  My hearing is a very useful servant that can not be replaced and it is not hard to keep it alive and well as long as I need it.  Why killing it, then? confused_face_2.gif

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