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post #16 of 44

im a treble head, so i always want more treble, but the SE425 had sufficient treble for my liking, it is slightly rolled off but not severly. it would be my pick, i even prefer it over the SE535 (although with an upgrade cable, im loving my SE535 now)

post #17 of 44
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Sounds interesting. Have you had a chance to compare them to the GR01s?
post #18 of 44
I'm afraid not, as vsonic don't provide review samples frown.gif
post #19 of 44
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Is there a sonic difference between the silver and clear SE425s?
post #20 of 44

nope, the silver is super sexy, but i like the clear because you can see the drivers :)

post #21 of 44
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Decided: it's going to be the SE425s!

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post #22 of 44
Hope you enjoy them as much as I did smily_headphones1.gif
post #23 of 44
Also if you want more treble from them, the 6N OFHC silver plated cable on eBay is great
post #24 of 44

The SE425 are not any better than HF5 in bass region and i will highly recommed to try GR07 because they offers wider soundstage, tight punchy bass and very detailed mids, highs with good instruments separation. The GR01 willbe better pick over SE425 for good bass response and overall very detailed soundsignature. BTW RE272 is not light in bass region sepcialy if connect through AMPs because it's improve with AMPs help and you will amaze by the clarity and details it shows with great instruments sepration


Edited by ZARIM - 10/18/12 at 11:38am
post #25 of 44
May I say that both me and my uncle (Andrew Poppy modern classical composer) both find the SE425 better than the HF5 in nearly all aspects, especially in the presentation of the music, they just have a very natural effortless sound to them, they may not be as accurate, or extended, or detailed, but they sound right, they don't sound artificial, they have a great soundstage and are very smooth and easy to listen to
post #26 of 44
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Last night, I listened again in detail to both the HF5 and the GR07 (AIFF / iPod 160GB / DIY silver LOD / iBasso P4 with AD797 and discrete transistor buffers), with the following result:

 

HF5: excellent speed and detail, very transparent, BUT next to no soundstage (it's all in the head) and tonally "off". They don't really do accurate timbre. They reminded me of the original (1980s) Linn Kan speakers!

 

GR07: more bass extension, better soundstage, BUT masking of fine detail, recessed mids and subjectively "slow"-sounding. Transients appear severely blunted. PLUS - very difficult to achieve a decent seal (I used Sony green hybrids in the end). I guess this just means that dynamics aren't for me....

 

Clearly, neither was entirely satisfactory.

 

In the end, my reasoning is that the GR01s will probably be too similar in sound signature to the Etys, plus there is some concern over whether I can get them to fit properly (as, if they have the same nozzle diameter as the GR07s, it will be difficult to find foam tips for them).

 

The Shures sound to me like they might go more in the direction of an "in-ear HD600", which is what I am looking for. Additionally, I know that Shure Olives fit me, achieve a good seal and are comfortable.
 

post #27 of 44

The GR01 is definitely not going to sound exactly like the HF5. I tried an HF5 or HF3(whichever one has the ipod controls) and ended up returning it because I thought it lacked bass, and I didn't like the extremely deep fit. I was getting a good seal, but I just didn't like the comfort. The GR01 has much better bass, and actually has a more extended and sparklier treble as well. The GR01 never gets too aggressive in the upper mids or treble, but is still bright. It's bright, but not harsh or grainy. I like it much more than the HF3/HF5.

 

As for foam tips, the Monster Supertips fit, and there should be a comply that fits, but I'm not sure which one is the right fit. I have settled on the supplied bi-flange tips, great comfort and isolation. 

 

I love my GR01's and honestly can't imagine anything better for the music I use them for. Prog rock/metal has never sounded so good. 

 

Also just wanted to comment on soundstage. I've never put a huge amount of thought into soundstage when it comes to IEM's, but I would also agree that the ety's soundstage is pretty much non-existent. The GR01's have a bigger stage for sure. I've never heard the GR07, but people have compared the GR01's soundstage to the GR07 and said it was similar. 


Edited by jasonb - 10/18/12 at 8:45pm
post #28 of 44
Thread Starter 

How is timbre? Do acoustic instruments sound "undernourished" as with the HF5s? Also, how securely do the RE01s fit with silicone tips? Do they fall out often?
 

post #29 of 44
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Also if you want more treble from them, the 6N OFHC silver plated cable on eBay is great


Thanks.

 

Could you please send me the link for the cable...

post #30 of 44
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