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Originally Posted by Povell42 View Post

I feel as if my journey is coming to a close of figuring out what my personal preferences is for headphone audio!!  I have come to realize that I prefer the airy sound of open backed hps.   I have been listening to the Ultrasone PRO 900  the past week or so, and I seem to prefer the AD900x even straight out of the box.  While I like good bass, I am in no means a basshead - and I am not very sensitive to brighter highs  and enjoy the brighter sound.  These were things I was unable to identify about myself just a few months ago.  I do realize that these preferences may change over time, but at least I know the starting point.  

Its funny, the first set of "audiophile" headphones I tried were the AD700's and loved the open feel and large sound stage....but it led me on an adventure to find a better bass headphone.  As I tried many other headphones my mind kept going back to the AD700 sound stage.  So, my bass crave eventually led me to the Ultrasone PRO 900.   Now I'm back to an "upgraded" AD700 with the AD900x.  

I liked reading this. I think I'm close to being in the same boat as you. It started with the AD700. I've gone through several cans of varying signatures. I've come back to wanting an "über AD700". Balanced, but detailed and sparkly is how I'd describe my tastes now. I felt like my journey was going to take me to the AD900X or AD1000X, but I could pass up a great deal on a K702 Annie this week, so now I'm going to be pushing back any other purchase for a while. I still see an AD1000X and HE-500 in my future.
Edited by roguegeek - 4/12/13 at 1:30am
post #962 of 1742
The head-fi motto should be, care of Michael Corleone, 'just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in'.
post #963 of 1742
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post


I liked reading this. I think I'm close to being in the same boat as you. It started with the AD700. I've gone through several cans of varying signatures. I've come back to wanting an "über AD700". Balanced, but detailed and sparkly is how I'd describe my tastes now. I felt like my journey was going to take me to the AD900X or AD1000X, but I could pass up a great deal on a K702 Annie this week, so now I'm going to be pushing back any other purchase for a while. I still see an AD1000X and HE-500 in my future.


Sweet, I have heard some great things about the K702 Annie version. I have tried the Q701 and I did like it but there was something missing that made me want more. I guess it was too balanced and neutral and made things feel a little dull, so that made me decide that I wanted something more immersive and fun verse accurate and balanced. That lead me to the Ultrasone Pro 900. 

 

I have read that the K702 Annie is the best out of the K701 & Q701 & K702 regular.  I almost tried buying the K702 Annie ear pads....as the consensus seemed that they made the Q701 sound the same - but they were like $100 for the pads.  So, I said forget it and moved on.  I guess I got so sick of reading reviews and just decided to buy stuff and try it out for myself to figure out what I liked. 

 

Let me know what you think the K702 Annie.

post #964 of 1742
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Originally Posted by Povell42 View Post

I feel as if my journey is coming to a close of figuring out what my personal preferences is for headphone audio!!  I have come to realize that I prefer the airy sound of open backed hps.   I have been listening to the Ultrasone PRO 900  the past week or so, and I seem to prefer the AD900x even straight out of the box.  While I like good bass, I am in no means a basshead - and I am not very sensitive to brighter highs  and enjoy the brighter sound.  These were things I was unable to identify about myself just a few months ago.  I do realize that these preferences may change over time, but at least I know the starting point.  

Its funny, the first set of "audiophile" headphones I tried were the AD700's and loved the open feel and large sound stage....but it led me on an adventure to find a better bass headphone.  As I tried many other headphones my mind kept going back to the AD700 sound stage.  So, my bass crave eventually led me to the Ultrasone PRO 900.   Now I'm back to an "upgraded" AD700 with the AD900x.  

I liked reading this. I think I'm close to being in the same boat as you. It started with the AD700. I've gone through several cans of varying signatures. I've come back to wanting an "über AD700". Balanced, but detailed and sparkly is how I'd describe my tastes now. I felt like my journey was going to take me to the AD900X or AD1000X, but I could pass up a great deal on a K702 Annie this week, so now I'm going to be pushing back any other purchase for a while. I still see an AD1000X and HE-500 in my future.


That is the reason that I am following this ADX thread.  As much as I like bass, closed back headphones can't sound right.  They will always have boxy (coming from a bottle) sound.  That ruins it for me.

post #965 of 1742
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Originally Posted by Povell42 View Post


Sweet, I have heard some great things about the K702 Annie version. I have tried the Q701 and I did like it but there was something missing that made me want more. I guess it was too balanced and neutral and made things feel a little dull, so that made me decide that I wanted something more immersive and fun verse accurate and balanced. That lead me to the Ultrasone Pro 900. 

 

I have read that the K702 Annie is the best out of the K701 & Q701 & K702 regular.  I almost tried buying the K702 Annie ear pads....as the consensus seemed that they made the Q701 sound the same - but they were like $100 for the pads.  So, I said forget it and moved on.  I guess I got so sick of reading reviews and just decided to buy stuff and try it out for myself to figure out what I liked. 

 

Let me know what you think the K702 Annie.

 

I went straight from the AD700 to the standard K702. I would say they were my last pair before my tastes started bringing me to things more bass heavy, but I always come back to the AD700 for that sparkly goodness. I'm just a treblehead I suppose. I'm not expecting a world of difference with the Annie, but I have heard they are an improvement with low frequencies and I like the idea of owning limited run cans that may be very difficult to find later.

 

Will definitely throw some feedback out there once I get enough time with them. 

post #966 of 1742

Just got my AD900X in. Listening to them now. So far I prefer them to the HE-500. Reminds me of the Q701 signature.


Edited by Katun - 4/12/13 at 1:20pm
post #967 of 1742
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Just got my AD900X in. Listening to them now. So far I prefer them to the HE-500. Reminds me of the Q701 signature.

 

Wow. Keep us posted on your impressions.

post #968 of 1742

Changing types of pads for a different 'sealing' effect (affects the highs and lows), taping up the holes or ports (might gain some bass but at a loss of staging), buying headphones that favor high or lows, are all an attempt to balance sounds to one's own liking. If you pull the cups away from your ears to break the seal, the first thing you notice is a loss of bass then volume. Smash the ear cups against your ears you might notice some better bass. Get the headphones you prefer and you don't have to do any of things.

 

AD700 are a good reference point as a majority keeps comparing and falling back on its sound and fit along with the ATH voice range signature even though they look for improvements in other models.  It is definitely a standard for staging/openness/airiness however you like to refer to it. Recently even the guy here with the AD500 doesn't have any complaints about its staging and that is a $50 headphone.

 

Whatever you do, listen to quality recordings once in awhile to enjoy the capabilities of your headphone and that would usually mean listening to music or movies from a CD or DVD player. Next would be recordings from HQ compression formats.

 

The best of both worlds would be owning two pairs of headphones, one open and the other closed and later on investing in an amp with or without opamps.

 

Try Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere (from FLAC or better), always fun to listen to all the stuff going on in a well recorded song esp. when wearing open headphones.

post #969 of 1742
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Originally Posted by razzz42 View Post

But buying the AD900x will give you the lows like the A900x?

 

If you never rolled opamps and a sound card then how would you know how much bass sound you can get out of the AD700? Or do you just spend $500 to find lows on open headphones? Or do you just move the slider adjustments on an equalizer for more bass?

 

I can get your ear lobes to flap back and forth on open headphones but since there is no back pressure like in closed phones, the bass will never punch like in a closed headphone  but there will be plenty of bass to satisfy in an open headphone.

 

I say, that if when you change opamps and sound cards, and if the sound changes appreciably, then it doesn't seem to me that you are dealing with very accurate sound reproduction. 

 

Never heard the A900x, so I am not one to comment how that pair compares to the AD900x.  All I know, is that I'm not a basshead, but that I value a balanced sound spectrum, and I have found it not to be a problem to find open headphones that have enough low end for me.

 

But I don't think that the AD700's t have enough low end.  Seem to be plenty of people that agree with that.  You want to change opamps and sound cards to fix that?  Why not just crank the low end on your equalizer?  The result is the same thing.  smile_phones.gif


Edited by Kevin Brown - 4/12/13 at 3:46pm
post #970 of 1742

Alright, a few more impressions.

 

First off on the look. I mean, wow. By the pictures, I personally liked the black foamed mesh of the AD900 better than any of the exposed driver ATs, but this just looks so much better in person. The chrome driver trimming is really quite the sight. Definitely more comfortable than the AD900, partly because it now has angled drivers. I'll have to do some comparisons with my AD700 later on, which I've found to be the most comfortable AT wing. I'll also do some sound comparisons to and see if I can reference the AD900 off of AD700, since I've compared the two many times in the past.

 

Sound wise, its really quite nice! Really reminds me of the Q701. The highs are perhaps a tad smoother, mids a bit more up front, and I believe the bass is nearly the same, if not just a little less. I'd say its the better headphone overall. Great sense of space and air! Sound isn't too thin, but perhaps right on the border for me. I may end up getting something a bit darker in the future, but this is like a glass of refreshing water. I guess this is why people usually buy more than one headphone; depending on the day, they then decide what sound they want. But anyway, I find it more listenable than the HE-500. While the HE-500 does what it does really quite well, I found it too bright and closed in. The MA900 was one of my favorites, and I'd put this in the same league, but I find the AD900X perhaps slightly better, as I find it cleaner and more lively. But, so far so good. I'd hope to see a bit more body to the sound (my preference) but for the specific sound that was targeted through this model, it really comes through wonderfully. It reminds me of a balanced armature, yet full sized version. Mids and highs are basically where I want them, but the warmth and bass is not quite there. Then again, I never know what I want regarding bass. Listening right now it sounds like just the right amount, but an hour ago, it wasn't quite enough. Regardless, I find it more enjoyable than 90% of the headphones I've tried.


Edited by Katun - 4/12/13 at 5:34pm
post #971 of 1742
Add an E12 to the mix, and they WILL be there :-)
post #972 of 1742
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Originally Posted by Katun View Post

Just got my AD900X in. Listening to them now. So far I prefer them to the HE-500. Reminds me of the Q701 signature.

 

Are they that good?  What makes them preferred over the HE-500?

post #973 of 1742
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Originally Posted by a_recording View Post

I am really quite loving the AD1000X. Been listening to it for music and playing Heart of the Swarm :3

 

The sound is smooth and punchy, with what sounds like a slight emphasis in the upper vocal / lower treble range that gives everything a bit of punch, combined with the deep dig of the AD900X's bass - maybe moreso. I need to do a comparison with the AD900X and AD2000X badly :P

 

How do the AD1000X compare to the AD900X in lows, mids, highs, imaging, separation and soundstage?

post #974 of 1742
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Are they that good?  What makes them preferred over the HE-500?

 

I put a few notes above.

 

Technicalities don't create an instant win for any headphone.

post #975 of 1742

I agree with Katun 100%. I owned HE-500 and sold them, because even though they are technically better, I found them to be closed in and not as lively sounding as ATH-AD900X. I've listened to a lot of headphones and ATH-AD900X is the only one that I wasn't bothered by anything about them. With that being said, they are not a perfect headphone but I enjoy them a lot. Makes me wonder what ATH-AD2000X sounds like.
 

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