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post #1966 of 1974

Soundstage is larger than HP200 in all directions. Bass quantity and quality is leagues better when you have a good seal. Imaging is about the same as HP200. HP200s are noticeably more forward due to how the driver is dampened (they could throw the same driver in a closed headphone, and it would sound 95% the same - they really dampened the driver well, almost too well for an open headphone). I don't compare sound signatures since I equalize all of my headphones. I can't compare to a stock AD2000 because I don't have a stock AD series headphone frame to throw AD2000 drivers in. I'd be too lazy to do the work for the sake of listening to something that I would never listen to anyway. Well, I guess I can say this. The GBH sounds like an AD2000 with a closed headphones' bass without the soundstage drawbacks of a closed headphone. People say that open headphones (that aren't planars) can't have bass? Think again.

 

Versus the K7XX, the GBH has much better bass performance, and due to how the driver is designed, it will never have the bass performance of the HP200 and GBH regardless of how I mod them. That's about it though. Everything else is basically the same, minus a wider stage on the GBH and better imaging due to the fact that the low frequencies are apart of the picture. Your typical open headphones are airy because bass is attenuated to the point that they barely influence imaging. Remember that I don't compare sound signatures. The use of equalizers make comparing sound signatures pretty irrelevant, imo. I have never heard a headphone that sounds good without equalizing them (or a headphone that doesn't sound better by equalizing), so I really don't care about out of the box sound. There's always some peak or dip in the FR that bugs me, so I gotta iron them out. Transparency-wise, they're all basically the same. Also, keep in mind that these impressions are with the HP200s having the beyer gel pads, so my impressions won't match that of a stock HP200.

 

For anyone wanting to attempt this, make sure you have a pair of earpads that are at least 1in thick and the bottom of the pads are perpendicular to the baffle. If not, you won't get good bass. I guess the Brainwavs HM-2 pads pleather could work, but you gotta stretch them a bit since they're oval.

 

Oh, and the AD2000 drivers are the easiest to drive, with the HP200s behind them, and K7XX behind those.


Edited by Trae - 1/24/15 at 6:45pm
post #1967 of 1974

Any fan of the AD1000X here? I used to have the AD1000 and still keep them in fond memories. How do you think the AD1000X fare? Thanks for your input, in advance.

post #1968 of 1974

Owner of an AD1000x for a year now. After this long and having moved on to other headphones, I can confidently say that I regret choosing to buy it instead of other cans of the same price range.

 

I simply did not find it to provide a coherent listening experience when I wanted to focus on enjoying the music. It was great as a multi-purpose headphone for gaming and watching videos but ended up being disappointing when I found myself enjoying my pair of IEM's (worth less than half the price too) way more.

 

I would suggest trying out cans like the HD600/HD598 or the DT880 if you're set on getting an open-backed headphone.

post #1969 of 1974
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Originally Posted by mikroski View Post
 

Please kindly give me some idea, how the sound of AD1000X and AD2000X compare to W1000 or W5000 or ESW11LTD?

 

I love these my close can, but looking for another phones that has more fun factor (with still have good mid and treble)

 

Thanks

You may want to wait for reviews of the R70X to start coming in. They could pair nicely with WA7. 

post #1970 of 1974
has anyone tried the w1000z pads on the AD series?
post #1971 of 1974
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Originally Posted by Trae View Post
 

AD2000 Left, AD900 Middle, HP200 Right

Can you or someone else tell whether the HP200 drivers are actually the same as the drivers from any of the ATH AD series headphones?  Also, can anyone point me to a post that describes the differences between the various ATH AD series drivers?  I think I read such a post, but I cannot find it any more.  Thanks!

post #1972 of 1974

As you can see, they are different drivers, and they all sound different. The HP200 uses a unique driver housing, a different voice coil and diaphragm membrane with ample dampening. The black felt material (dampening) is less restrictive than the white felt material on the HP200, so sense of space is smaller on the HP200 driver because of that. 

 

Basically, AD1000 and up will look like the driver on the left. It uses a metal housing with a different, thinner diaphragm membrane, more powerful magnets, and a redesigned grill with more holes. The AD1000X and up are basically the same as the non-x versions, but the soldering terminal is detached from the driver unit. It is reminiscent of your typical HD600 series driver.

 

The AD900/x and below all look basically like the ad900 driver pictured. The AD900X uses the same diaphragm membrane material and grill as the AD1000/x series and up, but is glued in a plastic enclosure instead of metal. AD900X and below have angled baffles to physically angle the driver, whereas AD900 and above have a baffle that elevates the earpads instead.

 

AD1000X and above have a different baffle design with higher quality dampening and a turbine look, whereas the models below it have the typical AD series baffle design with a more straight look.

post #1973 of 1974
How are the mids and soundstage between the AD500x and the AD700x? Is the AD700x worth $40 more in either department?
post #1974 of 1974
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Originally Posted by Aelms View Post
 

Owner of an AD1000x for a year now. After this long and having moved on to other headphones, I can confidently say that I regret choosing to buy it instead of other cans of the same price range.

 

I simply did not find it to provide a coherent listening experience when I wanted to focus on enjoying the music. It was great as a multi-purpose headphone for gaming and watching videos but ended up being disappointing when I found myself enjoying my pair of IEM's (worth less than half the price too) way more.

 

I would suggest trying out cans like the HD600/HD598 or the DT880 if you're set on getting an open-backed headphone.

I owned the HD598 and tried the Sony MA900... I preferred the AD1000's comfort and soundstage. Never owned the 3 at the same time so I don't know for sure which one is better. But it seems the AD1000 has always gotten bad reviews.

 

I'm looking into the AD2000 as well, but it's gonna take a long time of saving.

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