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Have we discussed how annoying it is that one needs to turn on the DD Socket 1 to charge? This is annoying for two reasons.

 

1) most everything else we own does not require the unit to be on to charge. I plug it in to change and often forget to turn the unit on. Later I realize that it's not charging- usually when I need it to be charged!

 

2) when I take the unit off charge, you have to of course remember to turn the unit off. More than once I've grabbed the unit off charge and have thrown it into my bag and forgotten to turn it off. Then later when I use it, it is discharged.

 

I also don't like the thin/fragile switches myself. I haven't broken one but I'm worried I might.
 

post #152 of 587
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Originally Posted by gkanai View Post

Have we discussed how annoying it is that one needs to turn on the DD Socket 1 to charge? This is annoying for two reasons.

1) most everything else we own does not require the unit to be on to charge. I plug it in to change and often forget to turn the unit on. Later I realize that it's not charging- usually when I need it to be charged!

2) when I take the unit off charge, you have to of course remember to turn the unit off. More than once I've grabbed the unit off charge and have thrown it into my bag and forgotten to turn it off. Then later when I use it, it is discharged.

I also don't like the thin/fragile switches myself. I haven't broken one but I'm worried I might.

 
Yeah, it happened to me the first time I went to charge it. Plugged it in...and came back home only to find it hasn't charged at all. Then I remembered it needs to be turned on first.same thing with after charging...unplugged it and put it in my bag. Later that night, dd has no power cause I left it in the on position.
post #153 of 587
Sorry double post...*edited*
Edited by edmonem - 3/27/13 at 8:05pm
post #154 of 587

Yes the switch is rather worrisome. I always leave mine on at night and have my ipod plug to it. DD socket 1 will start charging your idevices as soon as its own internal battery is fully charged. You guys just have to remember to turn it on before plugging in the device and turn the unit off once you unplug it. 
 

As I said before this is the first generation of dedicated iDac for venturecraft and i am sure with future revision this unit will be perfected more. It has potential to be great, I for one hope they revise this unit and bring it and dont just kill this product line all together.

As someone said it does seem like a working progress model however what is?

post #155 of 587
Did venturecraft mention anything about a burn in period? I think I put in about 30 hours of burn in time...
post #156 of 587

For me the burn in made no difference. I have the MUSES01 opamp. In my view burn in makes a difference if you have large caps which requires time to fully charge up. Something like ortofon mhd-q7.

post #157 of 587
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Originally Posted by gkanai View Post

Have we discussed how annoying it is that one needs to turn on the DD Socket 1 to charge? This is annoying for two reasons.

 

1) most everything else we own does not require the unit to be on to charge. I plug it in to change and often forget to turn the unit on. Later I realize that it's not charging- usually when I need it to be charged!

 

2) when I take the unit off charge, you have to of course remember to turn the unit off. More than once I've grabbed the unit off charge and have thrown it into my bag and forgotten to turn it off. Then later when I use it, it is discharged.

 

I also don't like the thin/fragile switches myself. I haven't broken one but I'm worried I might.
 

 

Yes the charging mechanism is somewhat counterintuitive - having to switch on to charge, and charging is complete having to remember to switch off (or it'll drain itself). This was carried on from the old Go-DAP 4.0 days. The only Go-DAP product that's different in this respect is the Go-DAP X.

post #158 of 587
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Yes the charging mechanism is somewhat counterintuitive - having to switch on to charge, and charging is complete having to remember to switch off (or it'll drain itself). This was carried on from the old Go-DAP 4.0 days. The only Go-DAP product that's different in this respect is the Go-DAP X.

 

Hm. Maybe the X or the VERZA is what I need to get? I wonder why VentureCraft implements this differently on the DD Socket vs. the X?

post #159 of 587
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Hm. Maybe the X or the VERZA is what I need to get? I wonder why VentureCraft implements this differently on the DD Socket vs. the X?

 

My X is currently with TemporaryName in Perth. When I get it back and fly back to Tokyo, you're more than welcome to give my X a shot. It's a modified LMEsomenumberthatIneverremember OpAmp, and the headphone impedance out down to 10ohm (therefore the same as the VERZA, and therefore same power output too at 130mW/ch for iDevice and 150mW/ch for USB Audio).

 

I think why the X is different w.r.t the power switch vs charging is the USB Audio mechanism/circuitry offers an opportunity for VentureCraft to redesign. e.g. unlike the rest of the Go-DAP series, the X, when used with PC USB Audio, could also charge and use at the same time - just like a regular USB DAC/amp of other brands. The DD seems to have a closer design to the older Go-DAP 4.0 than the X.

post #160 of 587
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

I cannot comment on the DAC as it is very hard however I prefer my DD Socket 1+ C5 setup more than my AK100. 

 

If I may, I'm going to share this comment with VentureCraft. You have no idea how happy they'll be to hear you say this.

post #161 of 587
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If I may, I'm going to share this comment with VentureCraft. You have no idea how happy they'll be to hear you say this.

Add in O2 and it is almost true love ;-) I am just looking for an amp that has the same shape format as DD Socket 1 hence why I am with C5 for now.

I am thinking of selling few gears so I can get the OPA627SM+627x, it will be nothing short of true portable reference. 

I really hope they do future revision of this DAC and dont kill this product line.

post #162 of 587
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Add in O2 and it is almost true love ;-) I am just looking for an amp that has the same shape format as DD Socket 1 hence why I am with C5 for now.

I am thinking of selling few gears so I can get the OPA627SM+627x, it will be nothing short of true portable reference. 

I really hope they do future revision of this DAC and dont kill this product line.

 

So I just talked to VentureCraft (thank goodness for Skype, that was a call from Oz to Tokyo whilst I'm holidaying in Perth), they're making 100 pieces and that's it. Pre-orders of the black DDs will include a cable worth approx $100-$120 :-

 

 

 

The cable is made by another Japanese maker who exhibits at the Fujiya festivals. I'm trying to get the detailed specs of the cable at the moment.

 

I'm trying to reserve the OPA627SM myself now, you're a bad influence @audionewbi!!

post #163 of 587
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Originally Posted by mtthefirst View Post

I also heard about it and want to try it too. I don't think any store in japan has it display.

 

Next time you are in Tokyo, let me know in advance and you can try my C5.

post #164 of 587

So this limited edition DD Limited 12V is basically for what purpose? Not for IEMs. Needs amplification, right? Is this for HifiMans and Aud'ezes?

post #165 of 587

It is worth it, how many DACs are out there which have OPA627 goodness in them? I can always get the 627x later but this one well it is the only chance I can get. I really hope my lovely sister is willing to loan me some cash :(

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

So I just talked to VentureCraft (thank goodness for Skype, that was a call from Oz to Tokyo whilst I'm holidaying in Perth), they're making 100 pieces and that's it. Pre-orders of the black DDs will include a cable worth approx $100-$120 :-

 

 

 

The cable is made by another Japanese maker who exhibits at the Fujiya festivals. I'm trying to get the detailed specs of the cable at the moment.

 

I'm trying to reserve the OPA627SM myself now, you're a bad influence @audionewbi!!

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