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post #1 of 14
10/15/12 at 2:48am
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I seem to have wasted money on the sansa clip
Why is the Sansa clip not on par with iphone4 for mp3 playback qualty driving hd600s through an amp? Or even bookshelf speakers? For example both players on full high volume similar eq settings, and the Sansa sounds way worse with flac vs iPhones mp3

I would have thought it would not matter as the amp does the job?

Does anyone have suggestions on a 16gb max mp3 that is at least as good as iPhone 4 in quality?


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Edited by Ghaunty22 - 10/15/12 at 2:52am
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post #2 of 14
10/20/12 at 2:05am

I think my son's clip sounds better than my Iphone5,

are you pluggging the clip into an amp?

that will only make it sound worse, as you are now going through two volume pots and pre amp section.

 

I don't think either are made to be paired with HD600s

 

source first!


Edited by KT66 - 10/20/12 at 2:06am
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post #3 of 14
10/24/12 at 4:52am
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I dont understand you? Thats what a portable amp is for, to drive HD600s that the sansa on its own couldnt possible do.

 

The clip goes into the amp, it doesnt sound worse as in bad quality, just too quiet. Yet the iphone 4 through amp sounds loud with aurthority & good too.

 

My self powered speakers sounded too quiet & lacked aurthority playing off the sansa, but sounded great off the iphone4.. Therefore I conclude its the sansa that is the issue. Its just a horrible experince.

 

Im going to go with the cowon mp3.

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post #4 of 14
10/24/12 at 5:36am

Yes it will sound worse

 

would you put $10k tires on Ford Fiesta?

 

You need to change your source

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post #5 of 14
10/24/12 at 6:00am
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Why does the iphone 4 sound louder yet better through the amp? 

 

What do you mean change source?

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post #6 of 14
10/24/12 at 8:59am
You're confusing output power for sound quality. The iPhone probably has more output power than the Clip+. I suggest getting an iPod (Classic, or Touch, but from last year, not the latest one), if you like Apple products, and using the LOD (not the headphone out) with your amp.
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post #7 of 14
10/24/12 at 9:34am
My HD 600 sounds fine with my clip+ and Leckerton uha-6s amp/dac. Are you increasing the volume to 0 on the Clip? I've compared the Clip to my iPhone 4 and they are similar.
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post #8 of 14
10/24/12 at 3:29pm
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Originally Posted by skamp View Post

You're confusing output power for sound quality. The iPhone probably has more output power than the Clip+. I suggest getting an iPod (Classic, or Touch, but from last year, not the latest one), if you like Apple products, and using the LOD (not the headphone out) with your amp.

Can you explain more about output power vs sq? Im confused .

 

One posted "I need to change my source" what does that even mean? change my mp3 player is all i can assume?

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post #9 of 14
10/25/12 at 1:05am
At some point you said that the Clip didn't really sound bad, just not loud enough. Which means the Clip's sound quality is fine. It's just that it needs more power in order to sound louder. Normally your amplifier should take care of that, but you say you can't get it loud enough even with the amp. An iPod/iPhone with a LOD would output a stronger (louder!) signal to begin with.

People who have been suggesting you to change your source meant that you change your MP3 player indeed. Just a quick question though: are you saying that you can't get the Clip + amp loud enough even with the Clip at full volume AND the amp at full volume?
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post #10 of 14
10/25/12 at 2:33am
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Thanks stamp. That makes a lot more sense now

The clip at high volume plus amp at full volume wasn't enough to bring my cans alive.
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post #11 of 14
10/25/12 at 2:35am
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Thanks skamp. That makes a lot more sense now

The clip at high volume plus amp at full volume wasn't enough to bring my cans alive.
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post #12 of 14
10/25/12 at 3:00am
Are you using Replaygain on the Clip? That would lower volume by a large margin. I'm surprised you hear such a big difference in volume between the Clip and the iPhone. You could also get an amp with a higher gain setting.
Edited by skamp - 10/25/12 at 3:01am
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post #13 of 14
10/27/12 at 11:23pm
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No reply gain. It didn't seem to work at all over 0db. By the way, when you suggest iPod touch but not latest one. Will 4g be ok?
Thanks.
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post #14 of 14
10/28/12 at 3:11am
Actually I take it back, while the latest gen iPod Touch doesn't have an analogue line out, you would probably be fine plugging the amp into the headphone out, since it likely measures the same as the analogue line out that previous gen iPods had.
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