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Yeah, I'd suggest a clean install.

 

And I find IE10 on the desktop and Chrome to be just as buggy all the same, just with different things. Both kept freezing for some reason, while IE10 Metro works fine (except when I tired to share a FB status update and the "Post"/"Submit" button was past the bottom of the page and I couldn't get to it, but that's a formatting compatibility issue, not stability).

 

 

 

Anyone know how to have two windows/tabs side by side in Metro IE10? So I don't have to use a desktop browser (which like I said both Chrome and IE10 Desktop are very unstable and unreliable for me)

post #62 of 197

I recall something like that being possible on CP, but haven't heard of its success on RTM. The instructions indicate it would be a hack of the Snap feature, which might not be that useful. In any case, here's the instructions (do back up your registry before attempting this):

 

  1. Press Win+R key combination to launch Run dialog box then type regedit and press Enter. It'll open the Registry Editor. Go to following key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ImmersiveShell\
  2. Under ImmersiveShell key, create a new key AppPositioner.
  3. Now select newly created key AppPositioner and in right-side pane, create a new DWORD AlwaysEnableLSSnapping and set its value to 1.
  4. Restart your system or restart Explorer and you should be able to snap your Metro apps to the sides of your screen.
post #63 of 197

I did a fresh Win 7 install and then redownloaded/upgraded to Win 8 everything seems to be running just fine. That ACPI issue is no longer as well. So, that's cool. I just wish WMC would support FLAC with out any work a rounds or registry alterations.

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Yeah, I'd suggest a clean install.

 

And I find IE10 on the desktop and Chrome to be just as buggy all the same, just with different things. Both kept freezing for some reason, while IE10 Metro works fine (except when I tired to share a FB status update and the "Post"/"Submit" button was past the bottom of the page and I couldn't get to it, but that's a formatting compatibility issue, not stability).

 

 

 

Anyone know how to have two windows/tabs side by side in Metro IE10? So I don't have to use a desktop browser (which like I said both Chrome and IE10 Desktop are very unstable and unreliable for me)

I just did it and I didn't notice anything after restarting Explorer. I mean like snapping two IE10 Metro windows/tabs side by side, or having two instances of the same app running next to each other I think is another way to word it. Having them have a 50/50 split would be even better. Why wasn't this (50/50 screen split for 2 apps) made at least a power user option if it was about confusing people with 3 options? Or is it and I'm not aware?

Thanks for the help though! Hopefully after getting an, erm, legitimate purchased copy ;) things will work better, if not after a few updates roll out for Win8.

post #65 of 197
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I just did it and I didn't notice anything after restarting Explorer. I mean like snapping two IE10 Metro windows/tabs side by side, or having two instances of the same app running next to each other I think is another way to word it. Having them have a 50/50 split would be even better. Why wasn't this (50/50 screen split for 2 apps) made at least a power user option if it was about confusing people with 3 options? Or is it and I'm not aware?
Thanks for the help though! Hopefully after getting an, erm, legitimate purchased copy wink.gif things will work better, if not after a few updates roll out for Win8.

Have you tried Firefox yet? Aurora is what I use. (nightly builds of Firefox)
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Have you tried Firefox yet? Aurora is what I use. (nightly builds of Firefox)

Maybe I will. I'm just frustrated how Chrome is totally fine on Win7 last I used it but not now. VLC won't work either, screen just flickers then shuts off after like 30 seconds and repeat. My vido card di fail once earlier though so I think I need to update my drivers.

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Ah. Well, Dell has the nasty habit of doing completely unnecessary Device ID swapping in order for stock drivers not to work, which is quite bad considering the hardware doesn't have any proprietary features or specs that warrant such malarky.

 

In any case, Windows 7 drivers ought to work just fine.

 

The win7 driver actually wouldn't install.

 

Win8 actually stopped me.  Isn't that more of an apple thing?  Windows is suppose to let me shoot myself in the foot.

post #68 of 197
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Maybe I will. I'm just frustrated how Chrome is totally fine on Win7 last I used it but not now. VLC won't work either, screen just flickers then shuts off after like 30 seconds and repeat. My vido card di fail once earlier though so I think I need to update my drivers.

 

Chromium based builds work fine on Windows 8 as well as VLC, which indicates you might have a video driver issue. What is your IGP/GPU make and model?

 

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The win7 driver actually wouldn't install.

 

Win8 actually stopped me.  Isn't that more of an apple thing?  Windows is suppose to let me shoot myself in the foot.

 

You can either force driver installation by setting compatibility mode to Windows 7 or enable Test Mode, which will then allow you to install drivers unhindered. Keep in mind Windows 8 x64 requires the user to go through a few hoops before being able to install just any driver. It's mainly a safety measure, although it makes installing custom drivers harder than it should.

post #69 of 197
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Chromium based builds work fine on Windows 8 as well as VLC, which indicates you might have a video driver issue. What is your IGP/GPU make and model?

 

 

You can either force driver installation by setting compatibility mode to Windows 7 or enable Test Mode, which will then allow you to install drivers unhindered. Keep in mind Windows 8 x64 requires the user to go through a few hoops before being able to install just any driver. It's mainly a safety measure, although it makes installing custom drivers harder than it should.

Graphics driver fixed VLC and to my surprise Chrome too. I didn't think it would fix that too, hmm...

post #70 of 197
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You can either force driver installation by setting compatibility mode to Windows 7 or enable Test Mode, which will then allow you to install drivers unhindered. Keep in mind Windows 8 x64 requires the user to go through a few hoops before being able to install just any driver. It's mainly a safety measure, although it makes installing custom drivers harder than it should.

I did run it in compatibility mode...

 

EDIT - Although I didn't do it from the properties menu for the application.  When I have time I will go back and get that file and do so and see what happens.


Edited by R-Audiohead - 10/30/12 at 11:58pm
post #71 of 197
freakin' beautiful Windows 8 will restart but will not shut down anyone else have problems here?

EDIT: Here we go: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html

5-6 hard shutdowns later and considerable stress troubleshooting/pulling hardware hopefully this will work. Hardo fail.

EDIT2: Nope shutdown is still broken. SO irritating.
Edited by drez - 11/1/12 at 4:55am
post #72 of 197
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freakin' beautiful Windows 8 will restart but will not shut down anyone else have problems here?
EDIT: Here we go: http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html
5-6 hard shutdowns later and considerable stress troubleshooting/pulling hardware hopefully this will work. Hardo fail.
EDIT2: Nope shutdown is still broken. SO irritating.

 

Have you tried disabling hibernation? Also, are you adjusting settings through Classic Desktop or Modern UI?

post #73 of 197

I lost patience and did a fresh install, didn't have many programs on just browser and media player so no big deal.  I wanted to make sure no system files got corrupted from the hard shutdowns anyway.

 

Problem is gone.  I'm guessing it's the antivirus I was using as that's the only thing I didn't rule out yet.  I have had problems with that antivirus before.  I think I'll just leave MSE on.

post #74 of 197

Security software is one software category people need to be careful, as Windows 7 compatible software doesn't necessarily translate into perfect functionality under Windows 8.

 

I'm running Windows 8 through a clean install, and for the most part, it's been a spotless experience. A few bumps on the first days due to the required learning curve, but I decided to throw that out of the window and go back to proper Explorer and start menu experience :)

 

Also, for capable IGPs and GPUs, the new WDDM is proving to be very stable, quite a bit better than on Windows 7, which was already good.

post #75 of 197

My view is more from the security perspective.  I've spent the past five years reverse engineering and researching malware on the Windows platform before moving to work with Android.  I like the new Windows 8 kernel.  Things that are not signed by Microsoft can't be launched at startup and that will prevent malware from starting.  That isn't to say they won't eventually find a way around it but it's raised the bar.  There's also some nice improvements with ASLR and executable memory management to make exploits more difficult.  I'm also a fan of drive pooling for storage management.

 

I hate the new interface.  It's not unusable but it's visually distracting and annoying on a workstation.  Why do I need some grossly over-animated screen disrupting my view of work just to launch something?  The settings are now spread among the interface formally known at Metro and the classic system settings.  It's obviously designed for touch, and there's nothing that will drive me crazy like fingerprints on my screen.  I don't want or need a touchscreen on a workstation, or my home computer.  It wouldn't be difficult for Microsoft to add the option to disable the new interface and go back to the regular start menu for the users who want nothing to do with touchscreens.


Edited by Spark771 - 11/1/12 at 7:38am
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