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I wonder what will happen with the UI for the release.  I can imagine that if done properly it could work (Modern UI that is) but the way it was implemented in the consumer preview was pretty botched   Thankfully there are third party replacements for the startbar.  The PC Win 8 UI just doesn't appear to have had much thought put into it, and it understandably was not Microsoft's main priority, playing catch up with Apple/Google on the tablets probably is.

 

For desktop computing I don't really want people touching the monitor, it leaves fingerprints.  Maybe some future version which can read hand gestures might solve this but for personal desktop computing it's a bit of a marginal feature IMO, but might mature into something better in the future.

 

Form people that have used Win 8 consumer preview for audio they seem to need a larger buffer size for streaming that they did in Win 7, so I'm not sure if I might need a more powerful CPU or ram or what.  Intel is also on my grudge list for changing the pins on the CPU every 2 years for no obvious reason apart from "product life cycle" greed.

post #17 of 197

I think Windows 8 is trying to make consumers quickly transition to touchscreen based environments however painful and hard that might be, just as Apple decides people no longer need CD/DVD drives so they remove them from all of their products.  Microsoft is just trying to get everyone to jump on the band wagon, but for some of us there is no way in hell we could give up our homemade PCs as they will always be more powerful than any off-the-shelf computer.

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I think Windows 8 is trying to make consumers quickly transition to touchscreen based environments however painful and hard that might be, just as Apple decides people no longer need CD/DVD drives so they remove them from all of their products.  Microsoft is just trying to get everyone to jump on the band wagon, but for some of us there is no way in hell we could give up our homemade PCs as they will always be more powerful than any off-the-shelf computer.

Also think of it this way. Those of us that were born in the early millennia and before (myself included) were raised with the basic computer/laptop. This new and upcoming generation are growing to be different. They utilize and fancy touch-screens much more. They grow up using tablets, smartphones, etc. Their world is becoming more touch-friendly as we progress in time. It's slowly getting to a point where we are losing the need for a mouse to navigate on our technological devices. Even keyboards will eventually see the end of their cycle somewhere down the line. Sure, this concept can be subjective as everyone has their own opinions and there are those much younger who also prefer the basic computer/laptop method of technology. I'm just saying, it's only a matter of time. 


Edited by Destroysall - 10/20/12 at 2:03am
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Also think of it this way. Those of us that were born in the early millennia and before (myself included) were raised with the basic computer/laptop. This new and upcoming generation are growing to be different. They utilize and fancy touch-screens much more. They grow up using tablets, smartphones, etc. Their world is becoming more touch-friendly as we progress in time. It's slowly getting to a point where we are losing the need for a mouse to navigate on our technological devices. Even keyboards will eventually see the end of their cycle somewhere down the line. Sure, this concept can be subjective as everyone has their own opinions and there are those much younger who also prefer the basic computer/laptop method of technology. I'm just saying, it's only a matter of time. 

I'm only 15 and already getting phased out :O !!

 

I tried it on a laptop and all-in-one at Best Buy earlier tonight while I was there for something else and it seemed alright. It lagged a bit on opening things on the all in one but UI wise it was decent, but it'd take some getting used to for me. There's always Ubuntu if things don't work out ;)

post #20 of 197
Tried the W8 Pro for a month now, upgraded from W7 Ultimate.
got the software via microsoft academic alliance (with my university). having a bit of problems with laptop fn functions, but took care of it.
to put simply, I love it. it's fast and only took like 10-20 seconds to enter windows(when it's hibernate) and does not lag after I sign in.
I don't think my laptop brand will release an update of windows 8 driver for my model, so gonna have to get used to compatibility mode on w7
consider a clean install if you want no problems with your W8, upgrading has it's own problems, especially if you don't like to tweak.
post #21 of 197

windows tablet will be the future of audiophile on the go sources.

USB 2.0 connectivity with microsd expansion, what else can one ask for. I was this close in ordering an ipad mini, but just looked at the microsoft tablet and I might wait and see.

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windows tablet will be the future of audiophile on the go sources.

USB 2.0 connectivity with microsd expansion, what else can one ask for. I was this close in ordering an ipad mini, but just looked at the microsoft tablet and I might wait and see.

hopefully we see SDXC support. I think I read something about the Surface having microSDXC...

post #23 of 197

Apparently site notifications aren't working properly, so I missed quite some replies. In any case, the sooner people realize that Windows 8 does require tweaking in order to become a better Windows 7, the better. From a UI perspective, Modern UI might suit some people but I have decades old habits that are well rooted, and since Windows 8 can be customized in order to have Windows 7 UI and every single feature that supposedly isn't available on Windows 8, it just makes the new OS a higher performing, lighter on resources Windows.

 

Also, the upgrade offers are ongoing since October 26th up to January 31th, with users that have an existing license being able to purchase Windows 8 Pro for $40, which is a reasonable enough price to warrant upgrading, especially when considering there are no performance or stability drops, actually quite the opposite. The main thing people complain about Windows 8 is Modern UI, which can be fully/partially disabled or bypassed. I personally will partially disable most Modern UI features and bypass initial forced logon screens in order to do the regular boot to desktop that always existed, and retain the improved file operation dialogs and much improved task manager.


Edited by Roller - 10/27/12 at 12:53am
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hopefully we see SDXC support. I think I read something about the Surface having microSDXC...

they both have microSDXC support. I am just waiting for someone to conform USB out before I go ahead an buy it. 

post #25 of 197

Bad news: Windows 8 cannot be used for a clean install - it flat out refuses to activate, and phone activation support person instructs that it needs to be installed over an existing windows install.  

 

Not happy, Windows 7 upgrade could be used for clean install with no problemsmad.gif

 

The consequence of this is that I need to fix my OS boot file issues before I can upgrade.  Lame.


Edited by drez - 10/27/12 at 4:08am
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Bad news: Windows 8 cannot be used for a clean install - it flat out refuses to activate, and phone activation support person instructs that it needs to be installed over an existing windows install.  

 

Not happy, Windows 7 upgrade could be used for clean install with no problemsmad.gif

 

The consequence of this is that I need to fix my OS boot file issues before I can upgrade.  Lame.

You can't just buy a full version for a clean install, or can't use the Upgrade disc for a clean install? Man, I didn't even know you could ever do a clean with an Upgrade disc, I've been buying fulls all this time :P

post #27 of 197
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Bad news: Windows 8 cannot be used for a clean install - it flat out refuses to activate, and phone activation support person instructs that it needs to be installed over an existing windows install.  

 

Not happy, Windows 7 upgrade could be used for clean install with no problemsmad.gif

 

The consequence of this is that I need to fix my OS boot file issues before I can upgrade.  Lame.

 

The curious bit is that after the installer checks for an existing Windows installation, from XP to 7, it does allow for a clean install. And by clean install I mean clean install, not the "Keep Nothing" option that's available on the setup, and actually moves personal files and programs to a Windows.old folder, akin to what happened on Vista and 7.

post #28 of 197

I just did the upgrade today. I'll admit, it'll take some getting use to, but with the little bit of grunt my machine has, I'm all for the "lighter on resources" thing. The much faster boot up is pretty nice though.

 

Now, if Asus could just get that damn ACPI Driver issue worked out, I'd be sittin' pretty.

post #29 of 197
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I just did the upgrade today. I'll admit, it'll take some getting use to, but with the little bit of grunt my machine has, I'm all for the "lighter on resources" thing. The much faster boot up is pretty nice though.

 

Now, if Asus could just get that damn ACPI Driver issue worked out, I'd be sittin' pretty.

 

What kind of ACPI issue are you having?

post #30 of 197

When I go to the desktop, there is a little box that says install the Asus ACPI driver. I click OK, and it just pops up again. Just a basic annoyance since I'm still toying with the new UI.. None of my Fn keys work though..

 

Side note, I'm glad at least Nvidia has proper drivers available. Downloading them now.

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