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post #301 of 648
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Originally Posted by BoxerOrBag View Post

got a pair of these a few days ago, on casual listening, they are definitely tuned different from the W3000ANV (my fav) and far better than the esw9. But I found them to be excellent and love them, and like anything limited that I like, I promptly purchased another pair.

 

I got them for about 500 US at a store in Hong Kong call "Let's go" at the Wanchai Computer shopping arcade 2nd floor, where there's an excellent selection of headphone stores that sells a very good selection of products. I found an A-T Hard case for my ath-esw11ltd at another store there. If you happen to be in Hong Kong, should drop by for a look.
 

 

I find them to be excellent too. Though many here say that the ES10 and ESW11LTD sound similar or the same in some areas, IMO that is not the case. They sound quite different.

post #302 of 648

You're right. The ES10 with its stock ear pads sounds very different and markedly worse than with lambskin leather ear pads (from ESW9). But once you swap the ear pads, I think it's very similar to ESW11LTD.

 

ESW11LTD to my ears sounds a wee bit warmer (but noticeably so), and with treble that rolls off earlier than the ES10.

 

But that's not to say ESW11LTD sounds bad. I think both ES10 and ESW11LTD sound very good, and with proper amping, I know ES10 can shine more, so the same should apply to ESW11LTD.

post #303 of 648
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You're right. The ES10 with its stock ear pads sounds very different and markedly worse than with lambskin leather ear pads (from ESW9). But once you swap the ear pads, I think it's very similar to ESW11LTD.

 

ESW11LTD to my ears sounds a wee bit warmer (but noticeably so), and with treble that rolls off earlier than the ES10.

 

But that's not to say ESW11LTD sounds bad. I think both ES10 and ESW11LTD sound very good, and with proper amping, I know ES10 can shine more, so the same should apply to ESW11LTD.

 

Ever since I got the ES10, I was wondering about those pads. Other than the rest of the headphone, they feel kind of cheap. Maybe some ESW11-replacement pads will help or I was also considering DIY. The best ear-pad material I have experienced so far, is the one, they use on the Beyerdynamic DT1350. It is some kind of memory-foam. Buy some of it, buy some leather and sew it together :)

 

The ESW11LTD in combination with Aune T1 (electro-harmonix 6922EH) sound very good. Best so far in my collection of different headphones.

post #304 of 648

Yeah, I was thinking of making my own ear pads since a while back. The idea keeps nagging at me...

 

But anyway, I think there is one thing that ESW11LTD does much better than ES10: it looks better.

 

ES10 gets scratched up to no end when it's exposed to the world. I think ESW11LTD looks a lot nicer with the wood cups, and also because the cups have a matte texture.

post #305 of 648
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Originally Posted by Bill-P View Post

Yeah, I was thinking of making my own ear pads since a while back. The idea keeps nagging at me...

 

But anyway, I think there is one thing that ESW11LTD does much better than ES10: it looks better.

 

ES10 gets scratched up to no end when it's exposed to the world. I think ESW11LTD looks a lot nicer with the wood cups, and also because the cups have a matte texture.

 

The best, is that the ES10 have titanium cups, which is an incredibly hard material. Covered with a clearcoat, that is not really scratch resistive. I got scratches on them, eventhough I never transported them without the pouch.

 

The ESW11LTD are very beautiful.

post #306 of 648

Do the upper mids of the ESW11 get sharp?

post #307 of 648
The Matte lacquer fits the sound signature of the headphones... It's not as bold.
I have not tried the ES10 or ESW10 or ESW10JPN so I can't compare to those. It's an obvious upgrade to the ESW9 which I have tested side by side.
Testing against others like the Momentum, new sony mdr-r1, beats and such, the ESW11LTD is the most natural sounding in my opinion.
I got my ESW11LTD for $610 shipping included and I feel that's a bit high if you only consider SQ/price because other headphones that I'd tried for portable use come close to it at a lower price, but it's also a limited edition headphone and future value can be considered and such. You'll pay as much for the W3000ANV as when it came out for a used pair. I think the ESW11LTD will do about the same.
post #308 of 648

I have been reading part of this thread as I have not kept up on the changes to the portable ESW phones.

 

I have the ATH-ESW10JPN and need some more earpads. These have the lambskin pads but they aren't really that comfortable. Does anyone know if the 11's are different, softer and do they fit the esw-10 jpn?

post #309 of 648

Join the club smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

 


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Do the upper mids of the ESW11 get sharp?

 

Not at all


Edited by TheMiddleSky - 4/25/13 at 4:43am
post #310 of 648

I am looking for an upgrade to my precious ATH-ESW9.

 

Since I have read this thread and the ATH-ES10 thread I am considering...

 

Staying with my beloved ATH-ESW9

Buying a used pair of ATH-ES10 and some EWS9 lambskin earpads.

ATH-ESW11ltd.ed

ATH-ESW10jpn (but too hard to find).

 

Looking for the same richness, lushness, but with more micro detail, punch and soundstage.

 

Thank you all.

 

*I tried three used pairs of ATH-ES10 today, a bit too much bass punch and not as much detail or soundstage as expected.

*I have tried ATH-ESW11 once for a short time, they were quite good.


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 4/27/13 at 6:37am
post #311 of 648
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

I am looking for an upgrade to my precious ATH-ESW9.

 

Since I have read this thread and the ATH-ES10 thread I am considering...

 

Staying with my beloved ATH-ESW9

Buying a used pair of ATH-ES10 and some EWS9 lambskin earpads.

ATH-ESW11ltd.ed

ATH-ESW10jpn (but too hard to find).

 

Looking for the same richness, lushness, but with more micro detail, punch and soundstage.

 

Thank you all.

 

*I tried three used pairs of ATH-ES10 today, a bit too much bass punch and not as much detail or soundstage as expected.

*I have tried ATH-ESW11 once for a short time, they were quite good.

 

Though probably you do not consider buying them anymore. You will need to buy the bigger ESW11 earpads for the ES10.

 

I kind of found myself using the ESW11LTD much more often. It is like 60% ESW11, 30% 1350DT, 10% ESW9 at home. The ES10 is in the cupboard.

post #312 of 648
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Originally Posted by RAFA View Post

Though probably you do not consider buying them anymore. You will need to buy the bigger ESW11 earpads for the ES10.

I kind of found myself using the ESW11LTD much more often. It is like 60% ESW11, 30% 1350DT, 10% ESW9 at home. The ES10 is in the cupboard.
i've read of people stretching he esw9 pads onto the ath-es10 because they are lovely lambskin. But a good fit would be best. But also as you wrote they aree may e too boom boom bassy for me.

I have often been curious about the DT-1350 also as they are ranked high but the cups are too small for me and i dont like their design/style factor lol.i have given them a few short listens.

Glad to hear you like the ATH-ESW11. I would like to hear what you (and others) think the main differences are between these two woodies.

(I have read the thread,looking for some more impressions smily_headphones1.gif).

Regards
Thanks again all.
post #313 of 648

About ESW11LTD, just imagine your ESW9, but with:

- Fuller sounding midrange (still very sweet, melow and sibilance free) with a bit more upfront vocal

- Better bass extension (really go very deep, less midbass hump),  more textured, with bass quantity roughly the same

- More spacious sounding, I think due the larger driver and larger woody housing

- Better technciality aspect such as detail, separation, cleaner sounding, and soundstage.

- More comfy to use (due the larger pad)

- More sturdy built quality


Edited by TheMiddleSky - 4/29/13 at 5:13am
post #314 of 648
@themiddlesky -sounds perfect.just the ticket.

Anyone else ?
post #315 of 648
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

@themiddlesky -sounds perfect.just the ticket.

Anyone else ?

 

If it is not too late for you, I would like to give you more information on the night from Tuesday to Wednesday. I have a day off from work on Wednesday. (most of the time I do listening over the night)

 

At least give a little bit of info:

 

I love the fact that they are limited. Kind of feels good.

 

I use both the ESW9 and the ES10 as portables, back then on my way to university, and now to work sometimes. This is probably a negative thing, but I would never wear the ESW11 outside the house, only maybe in the case I go on a business trip (in the hotel).

 

The ESW11LTD work great from portable sources. Do not expect much greater soundstage.

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